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June 7, 2013 10:03:50 PM

I'm a computer engineer, and I must say to the world community, the idea of turning a PC into a smart phone is the worst conceived approach possible. Smart phone interfaces are impressive in comparison to everything else before, but they are quite clumsy designed for operation in the palm of your hand. I mean, if Microsoft shipped off this product with a free 42" LCD Touch screen.... even then, I don't need an OS designed for a 4" screen... Don't they realize Windows is used for an infinitely number of applications, from NASA modeling simulators and satellite flight controls, to power grid operations, to freaking magazine development. This OS is designed with few things in mind:
1. To sell you more stuff from Microsoft..the model of every smart phone manufacturer.
2. To track more personal data and likely sell it.
3. To reduce the cost of OS development, regardless of the cost to the consumer.
4. To open a market for PC touch screens, which cost pennies more to make than an LCD, yet cost literal 5 times the cost (Like $500... ha! rip off). I bet they invested heavily in the market thinking they had insider information.

I truly feel betrayed by this company, 20 years of service, betrayed. I'll never buy another windows device....

screw you guys, I'm a goin Ubuntu!

I've tried to return the windows 8 disk, but neither MS nor the store I bought it at will accept it. Anyway, I'm really ticked off $140 bucks... what a joke... I could have shelled the Android OS over windows 7 and had a better experience... MS is dead to me now.
June 7, 2013 10:20:50 PM

Ubuntu?! Unity will leave you feeling the same way, Mint is much better. Try it if you don't believe me.
Wait until 8.1 (aka SP1) is out, it is re-introducing the start menu, and making it boot to (gasp) the desktop.
You can always re-install the start bar now if you are missing something.

I'm an support engineer at a MSP and about 20% of our internal staff has switched. No touch screens on our laptops, but you learn to use 8 just like you learned to use 7, Vista, and XP before it. The only major issue I've seen (other than a learning curve) is that the Cisco VPN doesn't play nice with 8. The engineer just wrote a small batch script that he runs when he loads the VPN up that resets DNS.

When Windows XP came out people hated it until SP1. 8 isn't popular now, and it will likely suffer the same fate as Vista but give it some time or keep using Windows 7 or switch to Linux.
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June 8, 2013 12:43:40 AM

NO!

A lot doesn't play nice with windows 8... trust me on that... I run high end application in parallel... I've reinitialized my top end system 3 times today... I've probably restarted or forced restarted 50 times today. The start menu is silly, its all set up the way MS wants you too use it (the one item MS always had over apple was flexibility). The sad part is its all about selling products at there store...
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June 8, 2013 2:38:13 AM

I agree that Windows 8 default is awful. I had to make a LOT of modifications to get it running more or less like I want it to. But the worst OS in history? That was Windows ME. The worst conceived OS in history? Umm, I would argue that Apple takes that prize.

If you are switching to Linux, I heavily recommend Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) it's a rolling release meaning you shouldn't have to ever reinstall it. The Cinammon desktop is fantastic. LMDE+Cinammon is far better than default Ubuntu in my opinion. If you insist on going Ubuntu, I recommend the Kubuntu or Xubuntu deviations.
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June 8, 2013 8:43:31 AM

Boy, everyone is recommending MINT and ubuntu variations... things may have changed, haven't used linux in a few years. I'll do the research.

But, yes, I do feel its the worst "conceived" OS in history; it probably also happens to be really fast when it works, and appears to have a better core scheduler than win7. Again, the biggest problem is that they took a highly flexible OS used in every notch our society has, and turned it into a dam smart phone. I don't feel this change was honest, everything technical will be tougher in windows 8. I mean, you can't even organize the tiles the way you want, the move around when I drag them, but to use this thing I need to define my own groups, column counts, order, etc... no auto sort, only auto align would be nice.

No start menu.... so how are we supposed to find stuff? The start menu right... and whose going to buy me a $1000 touch screen that cost $15 to manufacture?

An OS like windows needs to be intuitive and flexible, this is neither... its a departure from a "satisfy the customer" design philosophy, to a "make products cheaper to make and more profitable, regardless of what we do to or how we are perceived by the customer".

When it does work, I can see its got a good backboned to it... but primarily because it's a small (no HDD requiremnt increase from win7, which is historically unique I think...usually the OS gets bigger) efficient OS. I think they accomplished this by taking some lessons learnt on smart phone OSs, which isn't bad... but then someone got the bright idea, lets make the experience as trackable and market controlled as a smart phone! Bad idea taking away the one thing allowing MS to be so versitile and putting them more inline with apple (even worse in my opinion... I'd rather have the apple OS than win8)... and they won't let me return it, after 20 years of loyality to MS. Screw em, they are official crap producers... yes, worse "conceived" than windows ME, definitely worse "conceived" than Vista.... Vista and Me had serious implementation flaws, but the idea behind what they were trying to produce was far better than the idea of win 8... and chances are, they aren't going to be either removing or completely rebuilding it.. so I honestly feel this departure is going to be a death sentence for windows on the desktop (perhaps servers as well, lord knows what they are planning to do there)... which likely make active directly far harder to deal with and that'll be the end of windows server. I really think, windows is done for technical computing environments. Which is bad for them considering their smart phones really kind of suck compared to android... and apple for that matter.

On top of all that, windows 8 is buggy as hell.... freezes and stutters, auto screen shot off works but requires restart to get it back.

I mean, why am I going to buy "apps" from the MS store when I have an Iphone... Except in rare circumstances, why the hell would I want an "app" on my desktop computer anyway? They are designed for smart phones... tiny little htmls, scripts and... are there really programs or just scripts? Its fine if MS wants to make a phone app desktop interface like apple did with itunes, but to make the center of the OS and to design the OS interface around an app selection interface is tarded, very tarded. Now, perhaps if they make this app selection interface as versitile as the desktop and touch screens come down in price at least 80%... and they fix the installation process which was the worst I ever went thru, 8 hours...and if they fix the bugs, and wait 5 years for everyone to buy a touch screen, maybe then this new OS will work out ok for them... but because they like intel appear to be getting out of technical computing business (opting for cheaper "all-in-one" chips); Sadly, I don't think MS will survive this one... the phones suck in comparison to android and apple, and they based the desktop around the phone. Saves development costs now and in the future... but what a risk to take so prematurely and to implement so poorly, and in such a dangerous time for the market, so stupid. Ha... Mozilla just frooze up for like 45 seconds, I'm back!
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June 8, 2013 1:57:52 PM

Couldn't agree with you more. Totally geared towards making money, but then they are a business after all. So that really shouldn't come as a shock.
Badly conceived certainly however the thing that amazed me was the marketing and advertising.
There are improvements over W7 subtle ones in the main but also some quite useful stuff as well.
So what were marketing thinking about ? " Hey guys look its got stupid great tiles all over it that you just know we are going to stuff full of adverts at some point"
Big Fail :pfff: 

Mactronix :) 
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June 9, 2013 10:22:49 AM

Day 4, post windows 8:

I've been hoping the OS would slowly grow on me... nope, its getting worse. Keep in mind I've been using windows since the beginning (DOS for that matter) and have always been a loyal loving customer (even when they screwed up, I trusted them to correct it), and I know how to design OSs (part of being a CE). So to begin, there is no windows media player, there is only a tiny "app" version of it, all my movies default to this crappy app that takes 10 times longer to open than VLC player yet is a far less robust media player (what do I expect, it was designed for tiny devices).

Most everything defaults to these crappy apps in the metro interface when I try to open files. Everyone of these apps is a toy designed for smart phones, with only the least knowledgeable user in mind (my 70 year old dad, who knows only ebay) and the simplest touch capabilities (i.e., designed for tiny touch screens you can barely put your figures in). Can you imagine... once I could open 10 word documents and be constantly dynamically switching between them all in an effort to write a term paper. Now I'm forced into full screen view no matter what file type I open. Switching between them is a joke unless there is something I am missing (am I?). There are strange new ways to do things like scroll down, or double click (I think they are intending to bury the double click and opt for single click behavior, all part of some naive CEO's idea to turn the PC market into the smart phone market. Which is interesting, because now after viewing this OS, I'm wondering if all this hype about PCs going out of style is merely a marketing ploy by MS... I mean, most people want a powerful machine compared to the day's standard. Smart phones will always be lowest in memory, procesing power, etc... smart, redesign and compromise a 20 year successful platform to make it fit within the market where your succeeding the least... smart phones.... the devices aren't even comparable! The only advantage is reducing development costs of the PC product. You remember Captain Kirks communicator? You think its a good idea to conform the Enterprise's Communications array to that standard? That's what we are talking about here... traditional windows was build for real machines, windows 8 was build for cheaper, more profitable and FAR less capable devices.... size will always be a limiting factor in computer design, therefore a smart phone will NEVER equal a desktop sized PC. In most cases, the interfaces and software will be total different due to these size based design compromises....

Organization is around marketing, not the user. For example, I go to the metro sexual interface and click on the icon called games, expecting to see what games are installed on my machine or at least the old accessories-->games-->solitary type games... no, it takes you straight to the windows app store.... Is this where I buy Call of duty? No, its where I buy freaking Angry Birds! Do they really think we are that stupid? Integration of sales software into an OS on such a level I never could have imagined. Sure OSs have always come with bloatware, but this is blatant and highly integrated with the system, you couldn't remove it all if you tried. It would be interesting for a lawyer to wade thru the privacy policies between the old and new windows... I bet they effectively turned the PC into the internet, in terms of privacy. They should really call this OS "Windows Angry Birds", but "Windows Metro Sexual" suffices I guess.

I'm Constantly being asked to register windows and there is no way to turn it off.... I don't want to register, I don't trust them with my information and neither should you. This is messing up my time sensitive programs, forcing me out of games for example.

Most general programs don't operates well all the time in windows, I mean.. everything from Firefox, to VLC player, to cpu-z hangs up and stops responding... I'm going to test, but it really feels like clockwork... every 4 hours, "not responding" for like 2 minutes, most programs (I'm not using the "apps" of windows.... I could have saved $1200 and bought a smartphone if I wanted an app). It wouldn't surprise me in the least if MS intentionally hard coded errors into the desktop "old" OS trying to force people to buy there $3 script files instead of the free and far more powerful equivalents. Seriously, everything that isn't a windows cheep app runs quite well for like 2-4 hours and then hangs.

I am done with em. Don't buy this OS... go with a free Linux platform or at least an Apple... When/If the Linux guys ever do start to decide to focus more on touch interfaces, I'll trust them to come up with something innovative for the PC and not comformed to the marketing, user tracking and software/device capability wishes of the Vendor.
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June 9, 2013 3:09:48 PM

So how many places have the start menu things been dispersed?

I mean,
(1) quick access to apps
(2) Control Panel
(3) Shutdown/Sleep etc.
(4) Pictures/Videos/Music/Documents (desktop apps)
(5) COMPUTER (drives etc)
(6) search for stuff
(7) devices and printers
(8) default programs
(9)Help and Support

Please don't tell me that it's gone to 9 friggin different places.
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June 9, 2013 8:16:49 PM

Yeah, they think they are being more predictive of user habits and think this increases user speed, when really, it just restricts flexibility and intuition. Its great for a smart phone!
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a b * Windows 8
June 11, 2013 1:34:57 PM

lol your rants are hilarious. Even then i prefer the Android UI in comparison to Windows 8. Despite knowing how to operate Windows 8 i don't understand it. I mean what's the whole point in having a touch screen on a desktop PC? I don't find it innovative and i already have a touch screen cellphone. Why would i need this on a desktop where i want a desktop PC to function like a desktop? I keep hearing excuses, well you just need to learn it or it's the new way of doing things when i can't even comprehend how one thinks that the desktop UI is archaic. It's a tool to get stuff done. And sure you can download a 3rd party app to lock it down to the desktop but what's to stop Microsoft from eliminating the desktop all together in favor for touch UI? Certainly that would be a fatal mistake to MS and i am still not understanding why users like it.

With Win 8.1 it sounds like you have to basically install it like any other upgrade which i think will be a mess if that's the way they are doing it. I keep on saying they should be giving users the choice but i think MS is trying to force the new UI on desktop users. Not only that the start button MS is implementing is a joke. That's not going to make 8.1 any more popular, because what users want is a start menu. There are some users who won't or don't know about the 3rd party downloads. They want MS to show them that they plan on keeping the desktop by returning the start menu and allowing users a choice.

I am hoping but not holding my breath with Windows 9 though so i agree, going to Linux is a smart move, depending on what you do though you'll have to make sacrifices if you decide to give up Windows. And we already have XP and 7 so with all that, it'll have to do for now until Linux or someone else can stand against MS if they continue with the start screen nonsense. It would be fine if it was an option but since they are shoving it on users i don't like it. I don't like the new look and it's certainly not worth learning imo. No one has given me a good reason why the start menu is in fact better when i can do all that with Windows 7 already, and i don't need touch. A mouse and a keyboard is all i need.
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June 11, 2013 1:50:33 PM

I cant understand why if this is an update to put the brakes on the runaway train that is the dreadful sales and also to respond to users feedback, presumably in an attempt to lure users to the OS then Why oh Why is there not a free preview for users who don't have W8 ??

Please can someone explain this as its just plain ridiculous to me.

Mactronix :) 
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June 11, 2013 2:18:29 PM

mactronix said:
I cant understand why if this is an update to put the brakes on the runaway train that is the dreadful sales and also to respond to users feedback, presumably in an attempt to lure users to the OS then Why oh Why is there not a free preview for users who don't have W8 ??

Please can someone explain this as its just plain ridiculous to me.

Mactronix :) 


This OS's purpose is to gain new sales from a new audience, as the traditional Windows has become so good in win7, Microsoft didn't feel the need to update it and risk screwing it up. Thus, Microsoft left win7 as is, and created something completely new. My guess is that in a few years, a real update to win7 will come. Untill then, Microsoft tests a new market, and bears the whining of others (me included). So far the new Win8 market doesn't look to bright, so I expect Microsoft to come back to us sooner rather than later.

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June 12, 2013 2:14:52 AM

JPNpower said:
mactronix said:
I cant understand why if this is an update to put the brakes on the runaway train that is the dreadful sales and also to respond to users feedback, presumably in an attempt to lure users to the OS then Why oh Why is there not a free preview for users who don't have W8 ??

Please can someone explain this as its just plain ridiculous to me.

Mactronix :) 


This OS's purpose is to gain new sales from a new audience, as the traditional Windows has become so good in win7, Microsoft didn't feel the need to update it and risk screwing it up. Thus, Microsoft left win7 as is, and created something completely new. My guess is that in a few years, a real update to win7 will come. Untill then, Microsoft tests a new market, and bears the whining of others (me included). So far the new Win8 market doesn't look to bright, so I expect Microsoft to come back to us sooner rather than later.



Not 100% sure you understand my meaning.
W8 followed W7 For Microsoft the Idea was that people start using W8 instead of W7.
As happened with Vista many people are not impressed and so sales of W8 are bad.
This has been recognized by Microsoft Executives in interviews where they admit they got the marketing wrong and 8.1 is an attempt to correct this.

But and this is my point. You have to have W8 to try W8.1 So I don't see how they can be addressing anything as those who didn't like and so don't have W8 cant actually try W8.1

Mactronix :) 
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June 12, 2013 6:09:07 AM

This is one of the reasons the OS is conceived so poorly. I think you are both right... I think Windows 8 was designed both to be a "new windows 7" and "an attempt to reach new markets (touch screens for desktops)"... the problem is that these two ideas conflict each other now, and likely forever, and the only reason to combine them into one OS, as opposed to releasing "windows 8" and "windows touch" as separate products (or an add-on), is to reduce development costs. Not just now, but into the future... MS had the bright idea to make one OS for everything, which is incredible stupid idea by someone who knows nothing about computers.

Now, I must say, on day 8 or so of having windows 8, that if I ignore the the metro interface, all the bloatware ingrained in the OS, all the tracking software, all the cell phone apps, all the ingrained marketing crap, all the defaulting to cell phone apps even though I have better software installed, all the application freezes and errors I'm getting, the removal of the start button when they should have just made it on/off and given the user the choice, that I think... in regards to the core operating system, I think it could be a real improvement over windows 7 if they fix the problems. There are some things I'm starting to like, things they should have fixed a long time ago. For example, my music files... they all appear now with relevant track data in windows explorer.... This was very difficult to achieve in previous versions. By the way, why the hell would they rename "windows explorer" to "file explorer"... it just shows they are focusing more on marketing than functionality. What else do I link... I think I like the ribbon in windows explorer... but again, MS should give the option to display both the ribbon and the original file menu... each can serve its own purpose at difference times and for different users... MS used to be the company of "choice", at least compared to apple, now apple... I think.... I can't beleive I'm saying this, lol, but I think apples better.
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a b * Windows 8
June 12, 2013 9:46:12 AM

Well didn't they add the classic Windows 95/98 start menu in XP? It certainly seems like MS cared a bit more about user feedback but i guess since Vista that might have changed. Despite Windows 7 doing well and now again with Windows 8, even with the update MS is only returning the button but not the start menu itself. To me that doesn't really make much sense, but not only that Microsoft is so dead set on making Windows 8 happen that they either might be paying users or the fact that some users actually believe that Windows 8 (the start screen) is the future of desktops.

This makes me wonder what Windows 9 will be like. Basically though, it doesn't really make a difference because i already have Windows 7 and if/once it stops being supported i'll be using Linux for the internet and possibly my media center. With people continuing to preach that tablets are the future, for one thing desktops will always have better specs no matter what with the capability of doing more than a tablet can. And two, desktops haven't vanished yet. I still see consumers buying them. They are not quite being phased out yet and the existing running desktops last longer than they used to because the hardware is still supported. To top it all off not everyone can afford a desktop and they make due with what they already have.
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June 12, 2013 5:27:28 PM

mactronix said:
JPNpower said:
mactronix said:
I cant understand why if this is an update to put the brakes on the runaway train that is the dreadful sales and also to respond to users feedback, presumably in an attempt to lure users to the OS then Why oh Why is there not a free preview for users who don't have W8 ??

Please can someone explain this as its just plain ridiculous to me.

Mactronix :) 


This OS's purpose is to gain new sales from a new audience, as the traditional Windows has become so good in win7, Microsoft didn't feel the need to update it and risk screwing it up. Thus, Microsoft left win7 as is, and created something completely new. My guess is that in a few years, a real update to win7 will come. Untill then, Microsoft tests a new market, and bears the whining of others (me included). So far the new Win8 market doesn't look to bright, so I expect Microsoft to come back to us sooner rather than later.



Not 100% sure you understand my meaning.
W8 followed W7 For Microsoft the Idea was that people start using W8 instead of W7.
As happened with Vista many people are not impressed and so sales of W8 are bad.
This has been recognized by Microsoft Executives in interviews where they admit they got the marketing wrong and 8.1 is an attempt to correct this.

But and this is my point. You have to have W8 to try W8.1 So I don't see how they can be addressing anything as those who didn't like and so don't have W8 cant actually try W8.1

Mactronix :) 


I perfectly get your point. Microsoft made one mistake, and that was to stop selling Win7 as a product. However, MS doesn't expect classic windows lovers to move on to W8. My friend wanted to buy a Dell the other day, so I checked out their website, and to my surprise, found out that most of the PCs still offer a Win7 version! As for their high perf. Alienware PCs, they come STANDARD with win7!!

My point is, Microsoft is still pushing Win7, and does not intend for Win8 to be a complete successor.
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June 12, 2013 8:27:50 PM

Well, even if that is theoretically true (which I doubt), I sure as hell wish they had told me that before I wasted $140.
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a b * Windows 8
June 13, 2013 5:42:58 PM

The funny thing is Microsoft is only pushing Windows 8 on their site: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/download-sho...

Unless you find a link that shows you where you can buy and download a Windows 7.iso or something then the only reason Dell and other places still sell Windows 7 is a possibility that either there are still plenty of Windows 7 licenses floating around or maybe they are able to order 7 licenses. Who knows but eventually MS will have to find a way to get the classic desktop users what they want otherwise these users might either want to stick with Windows 7 or they will get a Mac or switch to Linux. Not everyone will do it but the majority are either on Windows 7 or still on XP and my company just upgraded to Windows 7.
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a b * Windows 8
June 13, 2013 5:49:41 PM

gunslingor said:
Well, even if that is theoretically true (which I doubt), I sure as hell wish they had told me that before I wasted $140.


With the Microsoft site and their vision of Windows 8 i doubt they are pushing Windows 7.. which i don't they they are. PC vendors like Dell, Compaq and others are the ones pushing Window 7. Supposedly, they are on limited stock but maybe it's just a way to get users to get a machine running Windows 7 which is fine because it's what a good number of consumers want anyway.

NASA is moving to Linux too so it's really going to be a battle against whether Windows 8 will take hold and whether the desktop will stay or go. I use desktops when i am at home, there is much more room to mod them than laptops or tablets.
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June 13, 2013 6:05:10 PM

MidnightDistort said:
gunslingor said:
Well, even if that is theoretically true (which I doubt), I sure as hell wish they had told me that before I wasted $140.


With the Microsoft site and their vision of Windows 8 i doubt they are pushing Windows 7.. which i don't they they are. PC vendors like Dell, Compaq and others are the ones pushing Window 7. Supposedly, they are on limited stock but maybe it's just a way to get users to get a machine running Windows 7 which is fine because it's what a good number of consumers want anyway.

NASA is moving to Linux too so it's really going to be a battle against whether Windows 8 will take hold and whether the desktop will stay or go. I use desktops when i am at home, there is much more room to mod them than laptops or tablets.


I seriously doubt that inventories are pushing Win7. How do you explain the fact that Alienware PCs come STANDARD with 7 instead of 8. This ain't just a temporary thing. (Did you see PC makers desperately holding on to Vista? no, they moved on to 7 immediately.)

As for NASA, they probably went for a custom OS that won't attract a lot of windows happy hackers and viruses. Don't expect this one example to spread. I myself would rather get used to win8 quirks then work with a poorly supported Linux.

Finally I said that the ONLY mistake Microsoft made was to stop selling win7 to normal people. But something interesting is that the Windows 7 stock at Microcenter doesn't look like its going away anytime soon. People are buying it all the time, yet its still in stock. Since I can't imagine that Microcenter stocked up massively, I'd assume that Microsoft is still selling 7 to stores too.
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a b * Windows 8
June 17, 2013 10:41:28 AM

JPNpower said:


I seriously doubt that inventories are pushing Win7. How do you explain the fact that Alienware PCs come STANDARD with 7 instead of 8. This ain't just a temporary thing. (Did you see PC makers desperately holding on to Vista? no, they moved on to 7 immediately.)

As for NASA, they probably went for a custom OS that won't attract a lot of windows happy hackers and viruses. Don't expect this one example to spread. I myself would rather get used to win8 quirks then work with a poorly supported Linux.

Finally I said that the ONLY mistake Microsoft made was to stop selling win7 to normal people. But something interesting is that the Windows 7 stock at Microcenter doesn't look like its going away anytime soon. People are buying it all the time, yet its still in stock. Since I can't imagine that Microcenter stocked up massively, I'd assume that Microsoft is still selling 7 to stores too.


I didn't realize that Alienware has Windows 7 standard. I just saw that Compaq, Amazon and other websites carrying Windows 7 were really low compared to Windows 8. Either they are just selling Win 7 better then Win 8 or it's difficult to get Win 7 machines.

As for NASA with Linux, sure they don't want to deal with viruses, but i'm sure they don't like Win 8's changes either. Not only that i myself am moving to Linux. Yes, it doesn't have best support but what do you expect from a free distro that hardly anyone uses. Thats why i have it dual booted with Windows 7. If i could simply just move to Linux i would and you have to start somewhere if you don't like Windows changes. But with Windows 8 i find that system so awful i'd prefer to go back to Windows 95 then use 8. But Linux is better then Win 95 so i'm choosing that instead of Win 95. And for anything else that Linux doesn't support and what Windows 7 won't support anymore i will have to decide whether it's necessary to use another Windows system. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made in order to get what you want. Either that, whine and complain about every new Windows OS that comes out because MS didn't listen to consumer feedback. That's what annoys me, and they don't care long as they got users buying their OS. If they didn't sell many copies of Win 8 you would see how fast they'd go back to a Windows 7 desktop but since they already sold what, 100 million licenses for Windows 8? No thanks, i'll go with Linux and Windows 7 for now.
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June 17, 2013 6:16:54 PM

I think I emphasized the wrong bit sorry. NASA as you know, aren't your average company, and don't do your average stuff. So, instead of aching over creating specialized apps for the average OS, I think they just made a custom OS around their unique needs. Linux, as you know, is rather tweakable to your liking, unlike the rigid Windows.

And don't worry man. Windows whateverisnextinlineafter8 will be a return to normalcy. (you know what that means...) Microsoft might care, might not care about us whining, but sales speak. money speaks. and sales are on our side.
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June 17, 2013 6:24:17 PM

Oh, and Windows 7's main problem according to critics was that there were already too many unnecessary features, and that Microsoft was changing the proven formula too much. If you update that with a version with less features or only a little extra, people whine that it's not worth an upgrade. Put yourself in Microsoft's shoes, what possibly could you have done?
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a b * Windows 8
June 19, 2013 7:28:17 AM

JPNpower said:
Oh, and Windows 7's main problem according to critics was that there were already too many unnecessary features, and that Microsoft was changing the proven formula too much. If you update that with a version with less features or only a little extra, people whine that it's not worth an upgrade. Put yourself in Microsoft's shoes, what possibly could you have done?


The only problem i have with Windows is that it's an unstable system. Yes, the OS has gotten better over the years but i have noticed Windows 7 locking up on my older system (although i think that's due to my PSU getting old/not supplying enough power). Windows 8 would just have the same issues and what i think most users want is a better stable system that works. I think the UI change was completely unnecessary, and since when was an OS with so many features too much? Users complain about the silliest things. :pt1cable:  When i am looking for better stability you have some users that are just tired of the old UI.

Anyway you are right about NASA wanting an OS that is far more customizable gives them much more breathing room in what they are doing. All i really need from an OS is a secure internet service and Linux seems to do well.
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