HD Graphics 4000 and Wattage for Backpack Gaming Machine Build

imadoctorjim

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I want to build a second machine that's very small and good for playing LAN games or emulators with my friends. We're talking VERY small; like small enough to fit in a backpack.

I'm looking at cases and trying to decide how I'm going to pull this off. I have been thinking about using HD Graphics 4000 since it would mostly meet my needs (especially for emulators). My dream case would be the Minibox M350, but I'd settle for a slightly larger case like the Cooler Master Elite 100 or something if I could find a decent looking one that would let me use a dedicated GPU.

I'm not afraid to have to bottom out graphics on games, as long as I can get a playable framerate. Size is the most important factor here. Lanbox is too big; I don't want anything I couldn't easily skip around with while only occupying one hand.

So, I suppose my main questions are:

1. What kind of wattage do you guys think I'd need with, say, an i5-3570k and 1x8GB RAM? I'm looking at this PSU for the M350. I'd also be open to getting an aftermarket PSU for an Elite-100-shaped case if such a thing exists.

2. Are there any really good integrated graphics options for Mini-ITX boards? I'm completely ignorant of the state of board-integrated graphics, but I'd be willing to fork over the extra money for a board that had, say, GTX560-equivalent graphics built in. Preferably something that would keep my system under 200 watts so I can use the m350 enclosure.

Not really sure what's possible, just wanted to get some outside perspectives.
 
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For a backpack sized build, I would consider going with something a little less powerful that that i5. Also, I don't think that any board has integrated graphics as strong as even a 540. I could be wrong, but a 560 seems totally unattainable. Anyone else have opinions?
 

sourodip

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yup there's no strong board as a 560;u can get a z-77 board or would go with amd 990FX-series boards.
why don't you pick up an fx-6300 and hd7750?it's cheap and would perform very well in price/performance ratio and go with a decent psu such as corsair CX 500V2
 

imadoctorjim

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Yeah, I'll only be using the i5 if I go with HD Graphics. If I find some on-board graphics I like, or an incredibly small GPU, I'll almost certainly be running an i3 instead.



Well, the main reasons I don't go with that hardware is the 7750 won't fit either of the cases I mentioned and the 500V2 is almost as big as my entire enclosure.

As for the CPU, I wouldn't be inclined to go AMD unless they had something I absolutely could not get in an Intel unit.
 

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I kind of agree with sourodip. The only way you'll get acceptable graphics performance is using an AMD APU. The A10-6800K is out and the HD graphics can't even come close to touching its performance. Other than that, I can't think of any other solution to the graphics issue since you can't even fit a 7750.
 

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well then,go with the gigabyte B75-M board and i5-3570k processor(HD 4000graphics)
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go with fm2 socket motherboards and get an A8-3870K or A10-5600K or A10-5800K processor.I think the A10-5800K APU is better than intel hdgraphics 4000
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FM2_APU_Review/
 
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I've heard some talk that AMD's integrated graphics were better than Intel's at the moment. I suppose I'll have to watch some videos and look up some benchmarks. I may end up needing to go with an AMD chipset is I want to use the M350 case. Unless, of course, I can wait until the 4th-gen intel CPUs come out.
 

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Wow, just looked into that A10-5800K, and it's the clear winner for graphics. It has better graphics than my i7-3770k and at 2/5 the cost. Looks like I may just be able to go with the ideal M350 case. Now I just have to pick a PSU for it. That's for another thread though I think. For now: Solved.
 

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thnx bro...