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June 8, 2013 5:51:43 PM

So i recently got a custom built PC and my friend installed Windows 7 OEM(using a product key from his laptop) and it is genuine. He told me that I should NOT use Windows Updates so that Microsoft doesn't find out its not the original license. So my question is that if I was to upgrade to Windows 8 using his Windows 7 license will I get my own license of my own and it would be a legit Windows OS to myself?
June 8, 2013 6:06:06 PM

just screwed your friend. nice guy.......... but then your friend shouldn't have tried to buck the system. bad place to ask for advice. 99-44/100 of the people here are too honest.
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June 8, 2013 6:08:48 PM

swifty_morgan said:
just screwed your friend. nice guy.......... but then your friend shouldn't have tried to buck the system. bad place to ask for advice. 99-44/100 of the people here are too honest.


Never answered my question.

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June 8, 2013 6:12:46 PM

JustinXCIV said:
So i recently got a custom built PC and my friend installed Windows 7 OEM(using a product key from his laptop) and it is genuine. He told me that I should NOT use Windows Updates so that Microsoft doesn't find out its not the original license. So my question is that if I was to upgrade to Windows 8 using his Windows 7 license will I get my own license of my own and it would be a legit Windows OS to myself?


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June 8, 2013 6:14:06 PM

If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.
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June 8, 2013 6:15:29 PM

ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.

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June 8, 2013 6:19:19 PM

JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.



No matter what your friend says, the current install living on your drive is not valid. It will time out in < 30 days.
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June 8, 2013 6:20:37 PM

USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.



No matter what your friend says, the current install living on your drive is not valid. It will time out in < 30 days.


Even though it tells me that this Windows 7 is genuine?
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June 8, 2013 6:25:47 PM

JustinXCIV said:
USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.



No matter what your friend says, the current install living on your drive is not valid. It will time out in < 30 days.


Even though it tells me that this Windows 7 is genuine?


Genuine, maybe.
Activated? Open Windows Explorer, rightclick on Computer
Properties
At the bottom of that window, does it say "Windows is activated" ?
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June 8, 2013 6:29:26 PM

USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.



No matter what your friend says, the current install living on your drive is not valid. It will time out in < 30 days.


Even though it tells me that this Windows 7 is genuine?


Genuine, maybe.
Activated? Open Windows Explorer, rightclick on Computer
Properties
At the bottom of that window, does it say "Windows is activated" ?


It does.
What he did was he took the product key from under his MSi laptop. I had Windows Update do a couple updates and most of them succeeded and I would say... about 30-35% of all udpates have failed. I haven't updated my PC in a week or so now.

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June 8, 2013 6:35:05 PM

JustinXCIV said:
USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
If the original windows 7 on your computer was never activated with Microsoft the update will have a error message that "a valid OS must be installed first" even though the update has the entire windows-8 OS on it. You have to purchase windows-8 (standalone) to own a valid license. It will flag, sorry.


Damn. Thank you.



No matter what your friend says, the current install living on your drive is not valid. It will time out in < 30 days.


Even though it tells me that this Windows 7 is genuine?


Genuine, maybe.
Activated? Open Windows Explorer, rightclick on Computer
Properties
At the bottom of that window, does it say "Windows is activated" ?


It does.
What he did was he took the product key from under his MSi laptop. I had Windows Update do a couple updates and most of them succeeded and I would say... about 30-35% of all udpates have failed. I haven't updated my PC in a week or so now.



Well....it may say that, but:
From Microsofts perspective, it is not valid. That OEM key is for his laptop. And cannot be used again, especially on a completely different machine, at the same time. One buy, one machine.

And as far as his suggestion of "should NOT use Windows Updates so that Microsoft doesn't find out its not the original license"....what...are you going to never install any updates? Never ever?

Go buy a valid license of your own, or use something else.
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June 8, 2013 6:37:35 PM

Yeah he said I shouldn't update my computer until I get the Windows 8 upgrade LOL.
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June 8, 2013 6:42:56 PM

Just because it appears to have worked, doesn't mean it's allowed. What your friend did was illegal. If you want to move to Windows 8, you will need to buy a full license.
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June 8, 2013 6:44:57 PM

JustinXCIV said:
Yeah he said I shouldn't update my computer until I get the Windows 8 upgrade LOL.


Buy your own valid key, and you won't have any problems.
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June 8, 2013 6:47:07 PM

I am... its just... EXPENSIVE. lol.
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June 8, 2013 6:54:48 PM

JustinXCIV said:
I am... its just... EXPENSIVE. lol.


How much was the last game you bought?
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June 8, 2013 6:56:36 PM

USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
I am... its just... EXPENSIVE. lol.


How much was the last game you bought?


$3.00. Alan Wake on Steam. lol.

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June 8, 2013 6:59:31 PM

There are two types of licenses for the OEM/System Builder Windows 8 product:

1. OEM
2. Personal Use

The product is the same for both, but upon installation, one of the two license must be accepted, depending on the use. The OEM license allows the OEM to resell the PC. The Personal Use license is for individuals who are building (and supporting) their own PCs.Neither are transferable once on the PC, but the OEM license allows for transferring the entire PC to different users.
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June 8, 2013 7:02:43 PM

ur6beersaway said:
There are two types of licenses for the OEM/System Builder Windows 8 product:

1. OEM
2. Personal Use

The product is the same for both, but upon installation, one of the two license must be accepted, depending on the use. The OEM license allows the OEM to resell the PC. The Personal Use license is for individuals who are building (and supporting) their own PCs.Neither are transferable once on the PC, but the OEM license allows for transferring the entire PC to different users.


Hmkay. Say three years from now I'm still using Windows 8 OEM and I decide to completely rebuild my computer with new motherboard, gpu, psu, storage, etc. Would I still be able to install Windows 8 on the new PC?

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June 8, 2013 7:04:54 PM

Windows 8 is cheaper than a full copy of Windows 7 was when 7 launched. You can't expect Microsoft to sell this super cheap. The fact that they have historically made ridiculous amounts of money on Windows and Office has no bearing here either. Fundamentally they are like any other business. They are there to make money on the products they produce. Do they still have room to make it more affordable? Sure. The price of the full version of Windows 8 is WAY better than the top-tier version of Windows 7 was when it launched.

Find a retailer that sells an OEM copy (although the line between an OEM copy and a retail copy is much blurrier with Windows 8 as opposed to Windows 7) and you can get it much cheaper. Examples from NCIX and Newegg below...

Canada

NCIX: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77185&vpn=FQC-05956&m...
Newegg: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

US

Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NCIX: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77185&vpn=FQC-05956&ma...

Edit: The links above are for Windows 8 Pro. There is also the standard Windows 8 SKU, sometimes referred to as Windows 8 Core. If a boxed copy simply says "Windows 8" look for more information as to exactly what you are getting before you buy.
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June 8, 2013 7:10:40 PM

JustinXCIV said:
ur6beersaway said:
There are two types of licenses for the OEM/System Builder Windows 8 product:

1. OEM
2. Personal Use

The product is the same for both, but upon installation, one of the two license must be accepted, depending on the use. The OEM license allows the OEM to resell the PC. The Personal Use license is for individuals who are building (and supporting) their own PCs.Neither are transferable once on the PC, but the OEM license allows for transferring the entire PC to different users.


Hmkay. Say three years from now I'm still using Windows 8 OEM and I decide to completely rebuild my computer with new motherboard, gpu, psu, storage, etc. Would I still be able to install Windows 8 on the new PC?



Yes.
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June 8, 2013 7:11:12 PM

ur6beersaway said:
There are two types of licenses for the OEM/System Builder Windows 8 product:

1. OEM
2. Personal Use

The product is the same for both, but upon installation, one of the two license must be accepted, depending on the use. The OEM license allows the OEM to resell the PC. The Personal Use license is for individuals who are building (and supporting) their own PCs.Neither are transferable once on the PC, but the OEM license allows for transferring the entire PC to different users.


Actually, this seems to indicate that both the OEM and Personal Use licenses are transferable to another PC: http://personaluselicense.windows.com/en-US/default.asp...
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June 8, 2013 7:34:12 PM

And when windows-8.1 (blue) is released we are all supposed to be grandfathered in to the newer version for free.
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June 8, 2013 7:37:21 PM

So when I purchase Windows 8, do I have to take this OS off somehow or how does it work?
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June 8, 2013 8:16:11 PM

You would get a disk that you can run a standard install from. Stick the disk in, boot from it, and follow the on screen instructions. Make sure you back up any personal documents or other data you want to keep first though.
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June 8, 2013 11:47:07 PM

The_Prophecy said:
You would get a disk that you can run a standard install from. Stick the disk in, boot from it, and follow the on screen instructions. Make sure you back up any personal documents or other data you want to keep first though.


So I don't have to worry about taking the OS thats not mine? I can just boot up with Windows 8 just like that?
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June 9, 2013 1:33:08 AM

Yes. Once you have all of your data, use the purchased Windows 8 install disk to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy. The existing Windows 7 install will be gone, and you will have a legit license of your own that is perfectly legal.
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June 9, 2013 7:55:00 AM

The_Prophecy said:
Yes. Once you have all of your data, use the purchased Windows 8 install disk to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy. The existing Windows 7 install will be gone, and you will have a legit license of your own that is perfectly legal.


Another question, would I be upgrading to Windows 8 or am I buying the full retail version and doing a fresh install?
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June 9, 2013 7:59:24 AM

JustinXCIV said:
The_Prophecy said:
Yes. Once you have all of your data, use the purchased Windows 8 install disk to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy. The existing Windows 7 install will be gone, and you will have a legit license of your own that is perfectly legal.


Another question, would I be upgrading to Windows 8 or am I buying the full retail version and doing a fresh install?


Retail, fresh install.
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June 9, 2013 8:01:31 AM

USAFRet said:
JustinXCIV said:
The_Prophecy said:
Yes. Once you have all of your data, use the purchased Windows 8 install disk to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy. The existing Windows 7 install will be gone, and you will have a legit license of your own that is perfectly legal.


Another question, would I be upgrading to Windows 8 or am I buying the full retail version and doing a fresh install?


Retail, fresh install.


Thanks!
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