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June 8, 2013 10:56:21 PM

Hey guys so I am about ready to buy all of the parts I need to build a new computer. I am mainly looking to play WoW on ultra with around 40 fps and also do some gaming videos in the future. I will also be doing some school work on it. Here is the build I have come up with and would love some feedback. I cannot exceed $1000 so keep that in mind. Thanks!

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg) / 8GB RAM free
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $944.59
June 8, 2013 11:05:54 PM

As your going to Microcenter for your CPU the 4670k is on 20 more and it has a 40 instant mb rebate instore purchase.
June 8, 2013 11:09:17 PM

My suggestion to you to obtain your goal is to cut back on that motherboard. Unless you plan on extreme overclocking, which is not likely on an air cooler, paying $150 on a motherboard is not worth it. I have a 4.5 GHz overclock on a $80 motherboard. So I would suggest lowering the motherboard to something more in the $90-$120 range then put that extra money towards a better GPU. Assuming you're gaming at 1920x1080, the 7850 will not suffice on ultra with Mists of Pandaria. I run an extremely overclocked 7950 and still get dips to 30 in cities, which would be even worst if I were to be recording video. I usually average 60-100 though, depending on the area/dungeon/raid.
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June 8, 2013 11:21:17 PM

For a sub-1000$ online gaming ( WoW ), video recording, I'd suggest this setup instead:

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $956.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-09 02:20 EDT-0400)

Better board for gaming ( this MSI board has Bigfoot Killer LAN controller ), better VGA card for WoW ( it favors nvidia more ), faster SSD, faster HDD, more sufficient PSU as well. Cheaper case but actually came with more airflow.
June 8, 2013 11:29:58 PM

Madn3ss795 said:
For a sub-1000$ online gaming ( WoW ), video recording, I'd suggest this setup instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $956.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-09 02:20 EDT-0400)

Better board for gaming ( this MSI board has Bigfoot Killer LAN controller ), better VGA card for WoW ( it favors nvidia more ), faster SSD, faster HDD, more sufficient PSU as well. Cheaper case but actually came with more airflow.


The normal 660 still won't out perform a 7950 in WoW. The differences between those SSDs and HDDs aren't a make it or break it deal and you likely won't notice much of a difference. Also, his original PSU is actually "better" and gives him more than enough headroom to overlock or add another GPU if so desired.

Also, if you plan on hooking in through Ethernet and not SLI'ing or XFire'ing then the MSI Z77-G41 is still a great budget board.
June 8, 2013 11:34:02 PM

Since it's just over 40fps in 1080p, both 2 VGAs will be sufficient, it's just that nVidia's driver is less buggy on WoW than AMD's. As for motherboard it's due to special LAN controller and good OC potential it its price range. Agree about PSU but the thread starter actually forgot to add RAM bars to his build there.
June 8, 2013 11:35:25 PM

thanks for the feedback guys! keep it coming haha
June 8, 2013 11:41:27 PM

Madn3ss795 said:
Since it's just over 40fps in 1080p, both 2 VGAs will be sufficient, it's just that nVidia's driver is less buggy on WoW than AMD's. As for motherboard it's due to special LAN controller and good OC potential it its price range. Agree about PSU but the thread starter actually forgot to add RAM bars to his build there.


But if he ventures away from WoW then he will want at least a 660Ti or a 7870. He also did not forget the ram slot. That motherboard he has selected comes with 8GB for free.

EDIT: Xuluu, do you plan on overclocking much and do you have a need for built in wireless?
June 8, 2013 11:46:14 PM

I would like to do some moderate overclocking and yes I will need wireless for this computer.

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June 8, 2013 11:46:59 PM
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here are some suggestions. a bit more budget motherboard that has a combo deal with the case you are looking at on newegg. a bit better gpu for gaming and RAM ( it looks like for forgot that) and a 600 watt PSU is more than enough for any single graphics with an overclocked intel platform.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.58 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Base Total: $1063.47
Promo Discounts: -$21.49
Combo Discounts:-$10.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$65.00
Total:$966.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-09 02:43 EDT-0400)

also i edited out the microcenter prices . . .
June 8, 2013 11:53:39 PM

I am really liking qb's suggestion for my build. Will I be able to overclock this card pretty well? And overall this build should handle WoW on ultra settings?
June 8, 2013 11:58:29 PM

If you count in overclocking then even an HD7850 would win over a GTX660 ( most Kepler cards including the GTX660 don't OC well ).
June 8, 2013 11:59:44 PM

so maybe just stick with the 7850?

EDIT: Or what graphics card do you guys suggest? Keep in mind that I am looking at moderate overclocking
June 9, 2013 12:12:28 AM

Xuluu said:
so maybe just stick with the 7850?

EDIT: Or what graphics card do you guys suggest? Keep in mind that I am looking at moderate overclocking


i'll have to beg to differ with the 7850 overclocking past a 660s performance in WoW. at best it will trade blows in other games and that is strictly depending on which 7850.
June 9, 2013 12:23:23 AM

qbsinfo said:
Xuluu said:
so maybe just stick with the 7850?

EDIT: Or what graphics card do you guys suggest? Keep in mind that I am looking at moderate overclocking


i'll have to beg to differ with the 7850 overclocking past a 660s performance in WoW. at best it will trade blows in other games and that is strictly depending on which 7850.


Even the worse 7850 would pass 1050mhz ( over 20% increase ) in core clock if you OC. Most 660s hardly past 1150 ( 10% ).
June 9, 2013 12:33:05 AM

Madn3ss795 said:
qbsinfo said:
Xuluu said:
so maybe just stick with the 7850?

EDIT: Or what graphics card do you guys suggest? Keep in mind that I am looking at moderate overclocking


i'll have to beg to differ with the 7850 overclocking past a 660s performance in WoW. at best it will trade blows in other games and that is strictly depending on which 7850.


Even the worse 7850 would pass 1050mhz ( over 20% increase ) in core clock if you OC. Most 660s hardly past 1150 ( 10% ).


you cannot compare core speeds between different arches (GCN vs Kepler) like that. @ stock the 660 is ~12% faster than the 7850 in most games; adding 20% to the clock doesn't equate to a 20% in fps. at best it will match it- until you overclock the 660. the only exception is the club 3d sold in the UK. that 7850 is on steroids.

June 9, 2013 9:28:20 AM

seriously thank you for all of the input guys. I really like qb's build, although is it difficult to overclock the 660? If I did overclock it would I see a considerable performance boost?
June 9, 2013 11:34:24 AM

take a read through this thread:
[OFFICIAL] GTX 660 (NON TI) Owners Club.
modifying the bios is optional but it will give you an idea.
(to beat a dead horse)
i strongly advocate a 660 over a 7850 when playing WoW.



if you were playing hitman:absolution than the 7850 would be a better choice. but aside from that game (and possibly tomb raider) the 660 is hands down the best gpu ~$200.


cheers.
June 9, 2013 11:40:40 AM

thanks so much man!
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