Will an AMD FX-6350 bottleneck a GTX 770?

GlobalGBT · Jun 9, 2013

I am making a build for about [strike]$1000 (including monitor and OS)[/strike], and I am planning on getting an AMD FX-6350 and an Asus DirectCU II GTX 770. Will the FX-6350 bottleneck the GTX 770? Update: I plan on having two monitors and I looked over it again and it is about $1300. I plan on playing Arma 3 and BF3 @ 1080p. Thank you.

Robert Pankiw · Jun 9, 2013

It depends on a lot of things, like resolutions, in game settings, and which game.

If you like playing at huge resolutions (or multiple monitors) then it shouldn't be any sort of bottleneck. I doubt that's the case since you want everything, monitor included, to come in under $1000.
If you play a Cid Meyers Civ game, then same things, it shouldn't, since A.I. don't take their turns when you do.

The GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 that's a little more powerful from clock speed, with a few power adjustments. Have you read the review for the 770? What games are you looking to play?

There are already a lot of threads like this one. Maybe the CPU is a bit different, or the GPU is another one, but in general they are all the same class.

As they say, there is always something that's being a bottleneck, it's whether you notice it or not that matters.

ingtar33 · Jun 9, 2013

not in any meaningful way unless you like civ5...

KnowItAll · Jun 9, 2013

I would pick a better processor. A stock i3 dual core benches higher than a FX-6350 in gaming.

ingtar33 · Jun 9, 2013

KnowItAll :

couldn't be more wrong. ugh... i can't believe i responded to this intel troll again, should have read the username.

8350rocks · Jun 9, 2013

ingtar33 :

Sometimes I wish this forum had an ignore feature...some people are really worth putting on "silent mode".

L Helps · Jun 9, 2013

mods please take a look at user KnowItAll, come on:certified in Sarcasm MCSE from Milf University. Really?! Also he's giving faulty information, many newer games are utilizing 4 cores and perform much better on the fx 6350.

KnowItAll · Jun 9, 2013

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/league-of-legends-performance-benchmark,3484-8.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-6.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-8.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/neverwinter-performance-benchmark,3495-9.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-8.html

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2306247

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-6.html

Can I stop now or are you getting it? Of course the i3 doesn't win them all, but it's never far behind in the ones it loses, and considering it uses half the power, I think it's a better choice.

KnowItAll · Jun 9, 2013

L Helps :

What's wrong with MILF University, is that an illegal term?? FAulty information? I produced TOMS HARDWARE benchmarks. ARe you saying TOMS benchmarks are false?? Wow, your really digging deep huh?

I never said there are not games out that utilize four cores. I also never said the i3 would win every benchmark. The benchmarks I've show show that the FX has to be over 4.3ghz to even match the i3 in many games. At that point, it's tdp is nearly 3 times the i3's tdp.

L Helps · Jun 9, 2013

Alright leave your description as it is but the i3 vs fx 63xx:
Games now perform better on the fx 63xx then the i3

Cofffeeeee · Jun 17, 2013

KnowItAll :

No it isn't, your stupid. Any performance benchmark will show that Fx-6350 will crush any i3 whether is cores, clock speed, cache, single threaded performance, 3D mark, anything. The day you buy an i3 over a FX-6350 will be a sad day for the person who bought it.

Go to http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ and read the benchmarks.

Also keep in mind that all those benchmarks, none of them were actually with the 6350 so, fail. And also remember that some games are more optimized for intel and viceversa with AMD. The same thing with GPU's some games prefer nvidia and some prefer Radeon. But over all, the FX-6350 will be better because of benchmarks.

L Helps · Jun 17, 2013

hafijur :

please leave, you're just a fanboy and you're information is not always right either. Sure the i3 single core performance is a bit better but many games now and in the future support more then 2 cores wich is the reason why the fx 6300 beats the i3.

L Helps · Jun 17, 2013

hafijur :

If you look at the benchmarks I posted the fx 6300 wouldn't even bottleneck the gtx titan.

whyso · Jun 17, 2013

For a 770 I would recommend a 8350 or a 3570k, especially for games such as BF3 which is quite CPU heavy. i3 or 6300 is going to be a bit of a problem now and a bit more of a problem in the future, IMO 6300 > i3.

qrad · Jun 17, 2013

If you overclock it to 4.5 ghz i am sure that it will handle gtx 770 prety well.
You should buy 6300 instead of 6350, because its same cpu but with lower stock clocks and bit more cheaper. You will put extra money for better motherboard and hyper evo cooler.

ingtar33 · Jun 18, 2013

hafijur :

in single gpu setups an A8-5600k is the lowest speed quad core cpu needed to not "bottleneck" 95% of games in any meaningful way. The a8 will bench within an average of 2fps of ANY other cpu when attached to a titan in the vast majority of titles out there.

yes, there are games like civ5 this is not the case... but speaking purely as an owner of a PhII x4 965 (which is only an eyelash faster then the aforementioned A8) who is rolling with a 7770 and playing civ5 on the highest graphic settings at 1080p... though i'm only pulling 20fps... the game feels smooth, and isn't choppy. That's because Civ5 probably would look smooth as silk at 10fps. it simply doesn't need high framerates because there is almost no animation.

so though i'm sure an i5 would roll out 120fps in that game, i do have to ask a simple question... why should anyone care? hell, i'm playing the newest tomb raider on high settings and averaging 45fps according to the Tomb Raider benchmark option... that also looks smooth and not choppy. makes me tempted to try it on very high or ultra.

ingtar33 · Jun 18, 2013

hafijur :

I agree... having played tomb raider at 45fps (on high settings) and 60fps (on normal settings), i can tell (barely) the improvement at normal... its a lot more apparent when i switch to "very high" settings and am pulling 27fps... at that point the difference is pretty obvious.

That said, i can't say i would be able to tell with civ5... i mean it already is smooth and not choppy and it's like 20fps (sometimes 15)... as a title that one really doesn't benefit from higher framerates... at least i can't see the advantage.

maddogfargo · Jul 10, 2013

KnowItAll :

^ Completely false ^ :no:

No, the i3 is no longer competitive. Even Intel fans will tell you it's not a good choice anymore.

If you have an Intel platform, an i5 is a much better choice but will also cost you a bit more than an FX6300/6350. In some markets the FX 8350 can also be found on sale for the same or less than a good i5.

If you have an AM3+ platform and your budget is limited, save yourself some money and get the FX 6300 instead of the 6350. They are basically the same chip, just the 6350 has a higher base clock. Invest the money saved into a good cooler, overclock that puppy, and enjoy.

Sources: Tek Syndicate, Actrons FX 6100 vs 3770k BF3 comparison video, Hardware Canucks, Hardware Info, Legit Reviews.

Brian Pierce · Jul 12, 2013

It will in some cases but not others. I would either drop down to a GTX760 or upgrade the platform to a Core i5.

Owner of an FX-8350 / GTX670 setup here.

nmakes · Jul 12, 2013

OK. All those i3 people, one basic thing which all of us are forgetting is that i3 has a GPU, whereas FX 6350 doesn't. That's why it benches better. Now, getting back to GlobalGBT's question, an FX6350 will in NO WAY bottleneck GTX 770. Straight forward and clear!

First: The 6 cores are really helpful.
Second: intel's hyperthreading + GPU will do good, but you won't get 6 physical cores.
Third, and this is important: Don't Pay For An Integrated Gpu If You Already Have A Good Discrete GPU (GTX 770). Instead Invest On More Cores.

inzone · Jul 15, 2013

GlobalGBT :

The FX 6350 is a six core with a high stock speed so you will not be bottlenecked by it and there have been articles posted that show AMD processors work better with Nvidia then their own brand, so combining the FX 6359 with the GTX 770 would be a very good choice.

Certianly there are more and more games using 4 cores or more so the days of dual core CPUs are about finished even though an i3 is a good CPU it is beginning to have it's limitations.

We also don't need these kind of forum wars to erupt in a thread where someone is seeking help with a question, so if you don't mind just post your answer and cease with the arguments.

8350rocks · Jul 15, 2013

hafijur :

Trololololololololol

inzone · Jul 15, 2013

Please don't make such statements without proof to back it up, a six core processor with a stock speed of 3.9ghz and a Passmark score of 7000 is not going to crumble with a CPU intensive game.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-6350+Six-Core

ElMoIsEviL · Jul 15, 2013

hafijur :

That's just not true. Why are you lying to the OP? Maybe you don't care that he/she has a budget and is looking to spend his/her hard earned cash on something semi-affordable but that OP sure as hell does care about his/her hard earned money.

AMD FX-6300 Bottleneck a Radeon HD 7970 or GTX 680?
CLICK ME HERE!

Short answer... no.
Long Answer... by a few frames per second (~1-5FPS) in situations over 70FPS.

ethereal essence · Jul 16, 2013

hafijur :

inzone :

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2306247
Arma 3 doesn't seem to matter much it seems. I was on about getting the fps the gtx770 can deliver, the fx6350 while it maybe 6 cores others will see it as a 3 core cpu. Anyway just checked benchmarks and it seems the fx6300 series piledriver cpus perform similar to the fx8350, I was just assuming the fx8350 getting beaten badly by i5 or i7's in a fewgames meant the fx6300 or fx6350 would have no chance. It seems only certain games amd struggle with. An i3 2100 gets 1fps more on arma 3 alpha compared to an fx6300 so its not really demanding game.

Keep stroking to intel's big blue logo like a good little fanboy. Hell why don't we post more links to older games and more importantly poorly optimized ALPHA stage games. That will show'em.

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