ahh, cheers for the quick reply, i though it might be that. i was thinking of upgrading to an fx 8350 but i wasnt sure if it would fit my motherboard. if i have an msi 760GM-P23 and the fx 4100 fitted would and fx 8350 fit? i know that intel have different fittings but i wasnt sure about amd. also is 80 degrees a high running temperature whilst gaming?