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June 11, 2013 12:02:32 AM

Iv decided the i5 3570k is a little out of my price range it and its mobo both cost more then id have to spend on either the 3470 or the 8350 and thats with getting a lower GPU the 7850. If i get a 3470 build i can get a 7870 and still be 70 under my budget if i get the 8350 i can get a hd 7870 and be right on budget.

Im planning to use the pc mostly for gaming this will be my first pc im switching from consols other then gaming ill be doing basic web browsing and internet stuff and movies. I dont know how to OC nor do i realy have the desire too from what i hear its more of a luxury then a necessity anyhow people say that the gpu is more important then the cpu in gaming so thats why i rather get the 8350 or the 3470 with a better gpu the i could get with a 3570k build.

i know the 3570k is better then the 8350 everyone tells me that plus the benchamrks and stats i find all over the web say that too but what about compared to the 3470??? is the 8350 better since it can still be overclocked if i decide to do tha tin the future??? or should i still go with the 3470 build???

3470 build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ForteEXE/saved/1JK6

8350 build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ForteEXE/saved/1JKl

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June 11, 2013 12:09:08 AM

the 3470 still spanks the FX series in gaming, go with that.
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June 11, 2013 12:42:59 AM

A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release to prepare myself for the near future and get an update on technology.

Use the AM3+ 970 instead since you don't plan on overclocking.
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June 11, 2013 12:45:27 AM

griptwister said:
A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release.


the FX8770 would indeed be a better choice, but i'm not sure about the FX-8350. Don't get me wrong i still game on a Phenom II 965 too, but to me it looks like the FX-8350 just uses more power for less or the same performance than intel counterparts. Even a 3470.
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June 11, 2013 12:48:23 AM

You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.
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June 11, 2013 12:50:49 AM

atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.

As you say, the 3470 does better and uses less power. I see electricity prices rising in the next couple of years so that will be more important. So why would he go for the FX-8350 then.
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June 11, 2013 12:51:47 AM

aatje92 said:
griptwister said:
I'll list a PC that is cheaper. A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release.


the FX8770 would indeed be a better choice, but i'm not sure about the FX-8350. Don't get me wrong i still game on a Phenom II 965 too, but to me it looks like the FX-8350 just uses more power for less or the same performance than intel counterparts. Even a 3470.


That's only half true, It does consume more power, but it's not enough to raise the electric bill more than a couple of cents. Let's not forget you save money on the CPU it's self and AMD controls the console market and we WILL be seeing 8 core support in the near future.

Forte EXE: Might I also recommend a HD 7870 LE for your GPU instead of a regular HD 7870?
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June 11, 2013 12:53:24 AM

atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.


Just noticed you posted this.

Forte EXE: Swap the 990FX Motherboard for a 970 and Swap the HD 7870 GHz edition for a HD 7870 LE. You will thank yourself later.
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June 11, 2013 12:55:17 AM

griptwister said:
aatje92 said:
griptwister said:
A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release.


the FX8770 would indeed be a better choice, but i'm not sure about the FX-8350. Don't get me wrong i still game on a Phenom II 965 too, but to me it looks like the FX-8350 just uses more power for less or the same performance than intel counterparts. Even a 3470.


That's only half true, It does consume more power, but it's not enough to raise the electric bill more than a couple of cents. Let's not forget you save money on the CPU it's self and lets not forget the AMD controls the console market and we WILL be seeing 8 core support in the near future.

Forte EXE: Might I also recommend a HD 7870 LE for your GPU instead of a regular HD 7870?


I do believe that games will be better optimized for multithreading, but i'm afraid that the next gen (FX-8770) will be so much better for that purpose so i would suggest either wait on next gen AMD, or go intel now. the supossed TDP of next gen is ridicolous though (fucking 220w :o ).

Every couple of cents help in these times :p .
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June 11, 2013 12:58:34 AM

Just get an FX-6300/FX-6350 and overclock them. Going with a 8350 will be a tad faster but trying to hit a overclock speed like the 63XX chips will generate a lot more heat, more than air cooling can handle (also imagine the constant buzzing of an air cooler trying to keep pace). The extra two cores will be good for multithreaded tasks/multitasking but you don't sound like you'd get that intensive. Is the one extra FPU worth the price, heat, and hassle of hoping you have a motherboard that can handle a 8 core (your going to need a 8+2 powerphase)? I don't think so. My two cents.
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June 11, 2013 12:58:39 AM

aatje92 said:
the 3470 still spanks the FX series in gaming, go with that.

From what my research shows the 8350 only consumes like 5-10 dollars more a YEAR then a i5 processor... its about 1 penny a hour or somthing like that. Also if what is RUMORED is true then amd processors will be better future proofed being 8 cores like upcomming systems will be games will be directed more toward a 8 core system but this is of course all speculation this is what i can decide between the 8350 and the intel cuz CURRENTLY the intel is better but amd could possibly be a better choice future whise with the way games are changing and also the new amd proccesors still being AM+3 were the 1155 the 3470 would use is dead...

And if i do get the 8350 id buy the things i would need to OC even tho i wont OC alot or right away in the future when the 8350 began to get a lil slower or outdated it be nice to squeeze a lil more use out of it by overclocking it

Im looking at 826 for the 3470 build after rebates or 905 for the 8350 build after rebates and both builds are using a 7870 ghz edition asus GPU and id like to have playable gaming with no lagg or freezing for like 3-4 years with me doing nothing but possibly updating the gpu and ill be playing on a 1080P monitor
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June 11, 2013 1:03:22 AM

griptwister said:
atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.


Just noticed you posted this.

Forte EXE: Swap the 990FX Motherboard for a 970 and Swap the HD 7870 GHz edition for a HD 7870 LE. You will thank yourself later.
whats dif betweent he LE and the ghz edition and i thought the 990fx was better then the 970 for ocing?

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June 11, 2013 1:15:37 AM

@aatje92: Ummm... okay...

@Forte EXE: Your money is better spent on a decent cooler and a FX 8350 or even a FX 6350. I don't think you'll need to OC a FX 8350 anytime soon. You could just bump up the IPC a little bit and pound in the i5s

I have friends that have Sold their 2500Ks and bought a FX 8350, and NONE of them regret their decision. Then again, they do Video editing...

Make sure you get a 7870 LE, it's a much better card. I've got a HD 7870, but I think I would have better enjoyed a LE, it' performs close to a HD 7950 except for way cheaper.

Also, if you are going to OC in the future, you won't be needing a FX 8770 or FX 9000. They'll be hot and expensive. I'm only upgrading to one because by the time I have the money to upgrade, The next gen CPUs will be out and I don't want an Haswell CPU. You could OC a FX 8350 to around a 4.5Ghz easily, bump up the IPC and you'll get the same performance and about 180w TDP as seen from multiple people who OC to that range.
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June 11, 2013 1:18:49 AM

Forte EXE said:
griptwister said:
atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.


Just noticed you posted this.

Forte EXE: Swap the 990FX Motherboard for a 970 and Swap the HD 7870 GHz edition for a HD 7870 LE. You will thank yourself later.
whats dif betweent he LE and the ghz edition and i thought the 990fx was better then the 970 for ocing?



I thought you didn't want to OC, But since you will be, keep the 990FX.

The difference between the LE/XT/EZ and the GHz edition card is 300 more stream processors on the GPU. It's quite a bit faster.

Get this one, it'll be better for overclocking and it's more stable than the others.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 11, 2013 1:21:24 AM

Forte EXE said:
griptwister said:
atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.


Just noticed you posted this.

Forte EXE: Swap the 990FX Motherboard for a 970 and Swap the HD 7870 GHz edition for a HD 7870 LE. You will thank yourself later.
whats dif betweent he LE and the ghz edition and i thought the 990fx was better then the 970 for ocing?



The 7870 LE is simply a cutdown version of the Tahiti Based Cards like the 7950 and 7970 with fewer GPU Cores. It sits between the 7870GHz Ed. and 7950 in terms of performance. If you're going to buy the FX8350 and has enough money left I suggest you get the 7870LE I qouted. Next gen of AMD CPU's are also compatible with curren AM3+ boards so you save money too with it.

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June 11, 2013 1:23:13 AM

griptwister said:
@aatje92: Ummm... okay...

@Forte EXE: Your money is better spent on a decent cooler and a FX 8350 or even a FX 6350. I don't think you'll need to OC a FX 8350 anytime soon. You could just bump up the IPC a little bit and pound in the i5s

I have friends that have Sold their 2500Ks and bought a FX 8350, and NONE of them regret their decision. Then again, they do Video editing...

Make sure you get a 7870 LE, it's a much better card. I've got a HD 7870, but I think I would have better enjoyed a LE, it' performs close to a HD 7950 except for way cheaper.

Also, if you are going to OC in the future, you won't be needing a FX 8770 or FX 9000. They'll be hot and expensive. I'm only upgrading to one because by the time I have the money to upgrade, The next gen CPUs will be out and I don't want an Haswell CPU. You could OC a FX 8350 to around a 4.5Ghz easily, bump up the IPC and you'll get the same performance and about 180w TDP as seen from multiple people who OC to that range.


whats a good cooler for the 8350?
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June 11, 2013 1:25:26 AM

griptwister said:
Forte EXE said:
griptwister said:
atavanhalen said:
You'll get higher FPS with the i5-3470 but you will not be able to enjoy all those frames if you're using a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz. It basically means that no matter how many frames your Processor can come up with the monitor will only show a max of 60 FPS. I'll say get the FX-8350 if your budget constrained, or better yet the FX-8320 so you can get a better card like the 7870XT (Tahiti LE) like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That card is performs almost the same as the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti but costs $40-$50 less.


Just noticed you posted this.

Forte EXE: Swap the 990FX Motherboard for a 970 and Swap the HD 7870 GHz edition for a HD 7870 LE. You will thank yourself later.
whats dif betweent he LE and the ghz edition and i thought the 990fx was better then the 970 for ocing?



I thought you didn't want to OC, But since you will be, keep the 990FX.

The difference between the LE/XT/EZ and the GHz edition card is 300 more stream processors on the GPU. It's quite a bit faster.

Get this one, it'll be better for overclocking and it's more stable than the others.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ocing isint super important to me but if im going to buy a cpu that CAN oc i mine as well do it. Plus i probly wouldnt OC anytime soon anyhow id probly wait a lil and not oc until its realy needed like with future games to get soem extra life out of my cpu
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June 11, 2013 1:34:41 AM

The Hyper 212 EVO (which you have listed) is your best budget option. I highly recommend it as a Air Cooler.

I wouldn't go watercooling, It's pretty much a waste of money unless if you need silence or if you're willing to shell out for a full on closed loop system. But, Then again, they sell quiet air coolers.

I'm not exactly an expert, I haven't really looked into coolers yet. But I know with out a doubt, a Hyper 212 EVO would be enough to get you where you wanna Go.

Even this dude below me with the fancy cat picture knows whats up. You cant go wrong with a good air cooler for $35!
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June 11, 2013 1:34:48 AM

Cooler Master Hyper212+ is a very good cooler!
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June 11, 2013 2:51:15 AM

hafijur said:
griptwister said:
A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release to prepare myself for the near future and get an update on technology.

Use the AM3+ 970 instead since you don't plan on overclocking.


I never understand where people get this idea from. Heck the i5 3470 is faster then the fx8350 on multithreaded tasks.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-...

Fx8350 is one of the worst cpus for future as well. If you look at it, its single and dual threaded core performance is similar to a 2.4ghz core 2 duo. Curent intel cpus are equivalent to 5ghz core 2 duo on single threaded and dual threaded like the i5 3470. So not only is intel better now but intel will; be better in the future. Its quite funny intel massive lead in games, most cpu dependant games I see like 30--40fps difference, In future that won't decrease much if at all.


so youd reckomend the 3470 for better performence and less money?
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June 11, 2013 10:05:43 AM

hafijur said:
Forte EXE said:
hafijur said:
griptwister said:
A FX 8350 will future proof you. A 3470 will not give you as many FPS in a game that will demand more than 4 cores in the near future (next year or so). And if you're playing on a 60Hz monitor, YOU WILL NOTICE NO DIFFERENCE between a i7 4770K and a FX8350. I game just fine on my old Phenom II x4 840 and I plan on upgrading to a FX 8770 later this year after release to prepare myself for the near future and get an update on technology.

Use the AM3+ 970 instead since you don't plan on overclocking.


I never understand where people get this idea from. Heck the i5 3470 is faster then the fx8350 on multithreaded tasks.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-...

Fx8350 is one of the worst cpus for future as well. If you look at it, its single and dual threaded core performance is similar to a 2.4ghz core 2 duo. Curent intel cpus are equivalent to 5ghz core 2 duo on single threaded and dual threaded like the i5 3470. So not only is intel better now but intel will; be better in the future. Its quite funny intel massive lead in games, most cpu dependant games I see like 30--40fps difference, In future that won't decrease much if at all.


so youd reckomend the 3470 for better performence and less money?


Definately, just looked at the prices of your builds suprised the intel cpu is cheaper. Intel cpus are better for multimedia and gaming most of the time and the i5 3470 on peak load consumes close to 100w less then the fx8350.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-...
its normaly the same as the 8350 but its on sale until 6/12 for 20 bucks off.



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June 11, 2013 10:56:25 AM

Lol, I'm telling you, if you don't buy a 8 core processor, you will regret it in the next year or two. I'm really serious about this. Example: THIEF is the first game this year optimized for the FX CPUs and AMD Radeon GPUs. You will see a lot more of this 8 core support for gaming as we continue through the years.

@hafijur: if you looked at more than that single benchmark, you'd see the FX 8350 will absolutely slaughter the i5 in other multi-threaded benchmarks. Let's not forget that you cannot overclock the 3470.

Where is 8350rocks when you need him.
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June 11, 2013 10:57:32 AM

The FX8350 will provide you a lot of great performance, plus the 3470 cannot be overclocked...so don't waste your money on that.

Additionally, all the PS4 and XB1 consoles are shipping with 8 core AMD APUs, future games will be very multicore friendly and better optimized for AMD hardware.

To get an intel chip that would OC and be on par with the 8350 you'd need to get the 3570k and it's about $40 more than the 8350 if the intel CPU is on sale. Plus the intel motherboards are more expensive...your build cost would increase by about $70-80 for a 5% gain in performance if that.
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June 11, 2013 11:15:39 AM

griptwister said:
Lol, I'm telling you, if you don't buy a 8 core processor, you will regret it in the next year or two. I'm really serious about this. Example: THIEF is the first game this year optimized for the FX CPUs and AMD Radeon GPUs. You will see a lot more of this 8 core support for gaming as we continue through the years.

@hafijur: if you looked at more than that single benchmark, you'd see the FX 8350 will absolutely slaughter the i5 in other multi-threaded benchmarks. Let's not forget that you cannot overclock the 3470.

Where is 8350rocks when you need him.


griptwister said:
Lol, I'm telling you, if you don't buy a 8 core processor, you will regret it in the next year or two. I'm really serious about this. Example: THIEF is the first game this year optimized for the FX CPUs and AMD Radeon GPUs. You will see a lot more of this 8 core support for gaming as we continue through the years.

@hafijur: if you looked at more than that single benchmark, you'd see the FX 8350 will absolutely slaughter the i5 in other multi-threaded benchmarks. Let's not forget that you cannot overclock the 3470.

Where is 8350rocks when you need him.


8350rocks said:
The FX8350 will provide you a lot of great performance, plus the 3470 cannot be overclocked...so don't waste your money on that.

Additionally, all the PS4 and XB1 consoles are shipping with 8 core AMD APUs, future games will be very multicore friendly and better optimized for AMD hardware.

To get an intel chip that would OC and be on par with the 8350 you'd need to get the 3570k and it's about $40 more than the 8350 if the intel CPU is on sale. Plus the intel motherboards are more expensive...your build cost would increase by about $70-80 for a 5% gain in performance if that.


What would you say to me buying a fx 6300 now and then upgradeing to one of the newer 8 cores amd will release ont he am+3 platform later?
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June 11, 2013 11:18:18 AM

That would be a great option too...since you can OC the FX6300 also...plus in gaming you won't see as big a performance hit as you would in something more intensive, like rendering/encoding.
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June 11, 2013 11:30:09 AM

8350rocks said:
That would be a great option too...since you can OC the FX6300 also...plus in gaming you won't see as big a performance hit as you would in something more intensive, like rendering/encoding.


for the money, you think fx 6300 now and new cpu later is better or just spend the extra 80 now for the 8350?

i realy feel like i wana go with a amd cpu my guts telling me go amd but my brain is being confused by so many benchmakrs and people saying i5 is better....
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June 11, 2013 11:41:04 AM

I have a friend who runs a 6300 and it's more then enough for gaming and is decent enough for performance crunching. Shoot, I'd say that a 8320 would be the better buy if you really want to save money, especially if you're going to be over clocking and plan on upgrading your GPU in a few years and you won't want to bottleneck that.

I think the 6300 would be adequate right now. In fact I think in can OC further than a FX 8350 due to less cores and less Heat, definitely a competitor. I personally believe in buying the best possible performance you can afford.

You won't be disappointed with any upper AMD.
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June 11, 2013 12:30:16 PM

Forte EXE said:
8350rocks said:
That would be a great option too...since you can OC the FX6300 also...plus in gaming you won't see as big a performance hit as you would in something more intensive, like rendering/encoding.


for the money, you think fx 6300 now and new cpu later is better or just spend the extra 80 now for the 8350?

i realy feel like i wana go with a amd cpu my guts telling me go amd but my brain is being confused by so many benchmakrs and people saying i5 is better....


Honestly, I think the most bang for your buck is to spend $10 more and get the 6350 and pocket the rest of your money or spend it on a GPU.
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