Gaming rig help

Dennis Henkels

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Jun 11, 2013
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Hello, I am starting to get into heavy gaming and I want to eventually end up recording what I play either to stream or even do a lets play on youtube.

I want to build a rig that can handle it and probably only going to use one monitor to begin with but I am going to eventually get a second monitor. This will actually be my first PC build ever.

Right now I am worrying about the hardware and not necessarily the case.


CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-AP11301-BUA01 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 650 2GB Video Card

Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card

Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N600UBE 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter


Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer


any suggestions or critique is much appreciated, budget wise, I want to keep this under
$2k if at all possible
 
Solution
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
This is a bad pick. The i7 will perform EXACTLY the same as an i5 for gaming, so why spend another $100? Also, you want to have the newest technology - buy an i5-4670k if you want to overclock, or the non-k version if you don't.

CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-AP11301-BUA01 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
You're going to spend several hundred on a processor and then only $10 to keep it cool? Buy a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO if you're overclocking, or just use the stock fan if you aren't.

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
I'm AMAZED this didn't end up being a $250 sabertooth. Good pick on the motherboard, and it's right within the target price...
The GPU is that most important thing in a gaming build. The gtx650 will game at low settings at 1080p. that's it.

Get an i5 (i5 is the same as i7 when it comes to gaming)

Get a MUCH better GPU. (hd7870, hd7950, gtx670, gtx660ti)

Get 8gb RAM. Most all games use no more than 3.3gb. Nothing will use over 6gb. 8gb is sweet spot for gaming builds.
 
So, uhm, is this coming from a boutique, or are you actually going to build it?

I'm asking because it shouldn't even cost close to $2k.

Finally, is the only thing you're going to be doing gaming? If so, you can save a LOT of money that's going to complete waste.
 

Dennis Henkels

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Jun 11, 2013
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as I said earlier I want to also do some recording wit editin. I was just kind of researching and the prices for the items I have there is either just over 1k, or just under 1k. 2k was just the max budget I set for myself. I will be actually building it.


@Tiny Voice thanks for the suggestions, I was actually unsure with the GPU so thank you for that especially
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
This is a bad pick. The i7 will perform EXACTLY the same as an i5 for gaming, so why spend another $100? Also, you want to have the newest technology - buy an i5-4670k if you want to overclock, or the non-k version if you don't.

CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-AP11301-BUA01 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
You're going to spend several hundred on a processor and then only $10 to keep it cool? Buy a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO if you're overclocking, or just use the stock fan if you aren't.

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
I'm AMAZED this didn't end up being a $250 sabertooth. Good pick on the motherboard, and it's right within the target price range you want. ($140-180.) However, you need an LGA 1150 motherboard if you go for a Haswell chip as I suggested above. Get a z87 chipset board if you're overclocking, or a cheaper h87 board if you aren't.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
This is just... no. 8GB of RAM is enough to simultaneously run battlefield 3, photoshop, AND 30 tabs in chrome. Buy 2x4 GB of DDR3-1600, with a Cas Latency of 9 and power needs of 1.5v.

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Not bad, but I personally dislike Seagate Barracudas, and you want more than just the hard drive nowadays.
Buy a Samsung 840 SSD, 120GB. You'll put Windows and your applications on that, and they'll be MUCH faster than before. Games and data don't benefit from being on an SSD, however, so buy a 1TB Western Digital Blue to put games and data on. (Grab a second or a 2TB WD Black if you really need 2TB of storage.)

Also think about your backup situation - I would buy a licence to Acronis 2013 and a 1TB external hard drive to make backups with.


Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 650 2GB Video Card
For a gaming rig? Are you KIDDING me? How does this even make sense - spending $2000 on a gaming computer and only putting $100 of it towards a graphics card? Depending on your budget, you should go with anything from a $400 card to a $1000 card. I would recommend buying a GTX 770 or GTX 780, or, if you have more money, two GTX 760 ti. (but if you do that, make sure you have a motherboard that supports SLI.)

Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
What's your speaker setup? If you're just using computer speakers, this is just a waste of money - the integrated sound will be fine. If you're going to connect your computer to a receiver and stereo / surround setup, however, then get the Xonar DX for $80 - it's much better, especially on the bass. (And if you get two graphics cards, make sure there will be a free PCIe x1 slot for this to go into, because if they all get covered up, you're SOL.)

Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N600UBE 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
No. Just no. First of all, this is a pretty slow wifi adapter. Second of all, you REALLY don't want to be on wifi if you're gaming - it's slow, it's unreliable, and it makes you lag. If you have ANY possible way of running an ethernet cable from your router to your computer, connect to the network that way. If you don't, then you want a PCI adapter. (But consider where it'll fit in, if you have a graphics card, or possibly two graphics cards and a sound card.)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
It's an optical drive - not much more to say here.
 
Solution
Here's what I might be looking at:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.58 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($653.98 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($82.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1705.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-11 20:38 EDT-0400)
 

Marcopolo123

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1k pc is Plenty :)
Save 1k for future upgrades if you feel the need.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $925.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-11 20:42 EDT-0400)
 

Dennis Henkels

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Jun 11, 2013
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thank you all so much for the help and advice, honestly I really like the set up Darksable suggested, So I will be looking into it. Um for power supply's should I look to getting one that is close to the volts everything is using or should I get one that is maybe 100-150 volts more than what the rig requires?
 


That already IS more than the rig requires by about 100 watts. There's also not much benefit in getting a larger power supply just for the heck of it - but the one I listed there is just about as close to a perfect PSU as ever made.