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H100i or tt water 2.0 extreme or kraken x60?

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June 12, 2013 3:01:06 AM

What is the best bang for my buck? H100i is $112, tt water is $126 and $127 for kraken x60. The case is storm scout 2. And im willing to mod if needed. Tnx in advance
a b K Overclocking
June 12, 2013 3:17:09 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
Can't go wrong with the H100i. Get two more fans with the $14-$15 you save and do push pull: perfect mod.


agreed. my vote also goes for H100i !
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June 12, 2013 4:50:20 AM

The main reason I use the word "destroyed" is the fact that the x60 beat the H100i in cooling while in silent mode. This is quite important, actually, as I can attest as a Kraken owner that you really don't want to run it on "extreme" (my desk begins to shake in a very alarming fashion when I do). Perhaps I overstated it, however. That said, the x60 has better cooling and, due to being able to cool well while on lower fan settings, superior noise specs. Honestly, I wouldn't consider going for an inferior cooler for a longer warranty unless the cooler with the shorter warranty had a reputation for failing.
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June 12, 2013 5:10:01 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
Jack Revenant said:
The main reason I use the word "destroyed" is the fact that the x60 beat the H100i in cooling while in silent mode. This is quite important, actually, as I can attest as a Kraken owner that you really don't want to run it on "extreme" (my desk begins to shake in a very alarming fashion when I do). Perhaps I overstated it, however. That said, the x60 has better cooling and, due to being able to cool well while on lower fan settings, superior noise specs. Honestly, I wouldn't consider going for an inferior cooler for a longer warranty unless the cooler with the shorter warranty had a reputation for failing.


In silent mode, does the pump speed change at all? If not, you can always buy a quieter set of fans for the H100i. 4 non-PWM 120mm Coolermaster fans are $10 for a 4 pack and are almost dead silent. Put them in push-pull and it will probably perform as well as the x60. The only drawback is the fan speed is fixed, but since they are silent at full speed, it doesn't matter.


Pump speed stays at 3000 RPM on all fan settings, but it's not a terribly loud pump.

Not having run a H100i with a custom fan setup, I can't comment on the noise and cooling they offer, but I can definitely attest that the x60 has given me all the cooling I could ask for (in fact, I rarely even need to use my custom fan settings due to the cooling on Silent), and has been surprisingly quiet while doing it.
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June 12, 2013 10:16:04 AM

What is the average lifespan of this aio coolers? Whats the rpm of h100i pumps? Also, ive seen 3 reviews about seidon 240m beating the h100i by 2-3 degrees. Its the same price in my place
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June 12, 2013 6:06:56 PM

Also, if i go wth the kraken. Where can i mount it in my scout 2?
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June 13, 2013 1:57:53 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
noobsaibot99 said:
Also, if i go wth the kraken. Where can i mount it in my scout 2?


You might be able to mount either of the cooler's double wide 120mm radiators on your side panel. Since you can't pull the hoses off to route them through the back, you will need enough clearance between the side cover and anything directly under it, most likely the video card or power supply based on pics I saw on a quick google search. If you want to do push-pull, you can mount the two extra fans on the outside of the panel, putting the screws through them into the radiator on the other side of the side panel inside the case.


Are there mounting holes for two fans on the top of the case where that large vent is? After looking at the specs on newegg, you also have the option to put the rad on the top of the case. That will probably be the best spot since heat rises, although a push pull config might be a bit trickier than on the side panel. I also hate to have to unhook the side panel fans every time I open my case (Zalman Z9+) for whatever reason.


Actually, the Kraken is 2x140mm. Having looked over the Scout 2's specs, I'm not sure it can accommodate the Kraken's radiator.
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June 13, 2013 2:42:50 AM

One last thing, Which cooler has the better pump? Im also considering seidon 240m
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a b K Overclocking
June 17, 2013 2:41:07 AM

I recently tested out the H100i, X40, X60 and H220.
And while the X60 is definately better than the H100i it also has a few downsides (at least for me).
- It´s more expensive.
- It´s larger which means it won´t fit in every case.
- It has larger fans which means replacing the stock fans wither other ones might be tricky because there are way more 120mm pressure optimized fans out there than 140mm.
- You don´t plug the fans directly to the pump/heatsink but to cables coming from it. Which means installation is easier but also means that you might end up with some cables hanging around your CPU especially when connecting the fans directly to your MoBo or a fan controller.
- With the stock fans it is also much louder than the H100i.
- I think Corsair as longer warranty than NZXT.


Don´t get me wrong, the X60 is awesome! Really!
But - like I said - there are a few things to consider.

Also, another point FOR the X60 is that it has longer and IMO more flexible tubing which might come in handy with some larger cases.
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a c 150 K Overclocking
June 17, 2013 2:58:00 PM

Neither, custom watercooling.
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June 18, 2013 3:01:21 AM

amuffin said:
Neither, custom watercooling.


That's kind of cheating, isn't it? Rather like saying "neither of the Porsche 911 or the Ferrari 458, just go with a Formula 1 car." It's better, but one may not wish to opt for it for a variety of reasons.

That said, if OP is willing to consider a custom loop, it is obviously the best choice.
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a b K Overclocking
June 18, 2013 4:02:43 AM

Jack Revenant said:

That's kind of cheating, isn't it? Rather like saying "neither of the Porsche 911 or the Ferrari 458, just go with a Formula 1 car." It's better, but one may not wish to opt for it for a variety of reasons.

That´s quite scary. I was just about to type a similar comparison. lol


Funny thing is, in every AiO thread there´s always at least one guy telling the OP to get a custom one. No offense, really.
But it´s just funny.
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June 18, 2013 11:28:54 PM

Som3one said:
Jack Revenant said:

That's kind of cheating, isn't it? Rather like saying "neither of the Porsche 911 or the Ferrari 458, just go with a Formula 1 car." It's better, but one may not wish to opt for it for a variety of reasons.

That´s quite scary. I was just about to type a similar comparison. lol


Funny thing is, in every AiO thread there´s always at least one guy telling the OP to get a custom one. No offense, really.
But it´s just funny.


Twisted, crazed- I mean great minds think alike.

I can understand why, to a degree. Custom is definitely better, but it's also quite a big step, and a lot of folks forget that when they've been doing it for a while. You get into that mindset once you gain a degree of proficiency in an area. It's also why nearly every non-overclocking build has somebody show up and say "You should really just overclock, you'll get a lot of gains for very low cost". It's true, but it assumes a certain degree of confidence/ability/willingness to invest time on the part of the OP that just may not be there.
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a b K Overclocking
June 19, 2013 12:56:58 AM

Not to mention a certain degree of money. ;) 
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October 5, 2013 1:06:55 PM

What did you go with. i am in the same boat.

i have an old school Zalman 9900 max blue on my 4670k (with an asus Z87 deluxe). Asus has an easy 4 way auto overclock, with this setup it took me to 4.4Ghz (but would blue screen when transcoding mkv to blu ray) so i took it down to 4.2Ghz, which i think it pretty good. but that's at 70 degrees.

I was thinking about the kraken x40 with a fan adapter. it has software to auto adjust speeds, and the symbol over the pump can change colors for different degrees.

but then i found this review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/water2.0-extreme-kr...

according to this, the x40 and tt water 2.0 were the only ones to beat the noctua d14. now i am thinking the tt water 2.0 extreme. its the same price ($89) at a popular site "new unhatched baby chick". its more quite (x40 is the loudest even with 1 fan). and i wont have to use any adapters. i can always swap out the fans for something slimmer if i need the clearance.

i also have the storm scout 2, with no 140mm options.

damn it, just typing this out sold me on it. im buying water 2.0 extreme today. (bought a refurb h80 for $45 from frys yesterday, have to make a trip to return that now!) (they also have the h60 for $35. but those have bad reviews and temps are too similar to my zalman 9900.

update: just found out there is a 3.0 extreme. seems similar, just thinner RAD 27mm vs 38mm. shit, now i dont know what to do...
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October 5, 2013 5:51:27 PM

did a bunch of research. found the 3.0 extreme (its thinner and better then the 2.0 for $10 more). realized its a rebranded asetek, which is equal to the h100i. since the 3.0 and h100i are the same price, i am going with the h100i, it has the color changing LED on the cooler, and is more quite
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