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June 12, 2013 3:50:33 AM

Hello. I want to build a new PC... but...
I've never built a PC before, but at least I have tried to choose PC parts that suits my budget. However I don't really know if this will be good enough for me.

Maybe I will use it for game, I want PC that at least can run skyrim smoothly (preferably in high or ultra settings), but I will mostly use it for internet browsing, watching and (1080p, hi10p, etc) probably editing videos.

I don't know what should I choose, Intel-ATI(amd) or AMD-ATI(amd). I probably will get the money in August, September, or maybe October and will build the PC after I got the money. I thought, I have to plan it and learn about building a PC before buying.

So, here they are. My plans.

-Intel plan
1. CPU: Intel Pentium G860
2. MB: Gigabyte H61M-S2P
3. GPU: HIS HD 6570/5670/6670
4. PSU: Corsair VS650
(the other probably I can manage)

-AMD plan
1. CPU: Athlon II X3 455
2. MB: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 or ASUS M5A78LMX
3. GPU: HIS HD 6670/5750
4. PSU: Corsair VS650
(the other probably I can manage)

So here it is. I think I'll go with the AMD plan (the processor is probably better), but I'm a bit confused with the motherboard and GPU.

Should I pick GB or ASUS? I heard GB is better than ASUS, and I think GB suits my needs better (but I want ASUS' core unlocker).

And the GPU, should I pick 6670 or the older 5750? The price isn't very different (at least here in my city), and probably 5750 will be better, but it's seems outdated.

Please help me choose what probably is the best choice.
I'm sorry if my English isn't very good or isn't very clear. I've tried my best to write this and I hope you understand and will help me. Even if you only read this, I'll be thankful.

Thank you.

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June 12, 2013 4:01:51 AM

Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).

Here are some examples of budget gaming builds:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.06 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $402.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-12 07:05 EDT-0400)

or

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.05 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.06 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $417.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-12 07:08 EDT-0400)

or Intel build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($76.25 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.06 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $417.26
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-12 07:13 EDT-0400)
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June 12, 2013 4:04:11 AM

For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.
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June 12, 2013 4:15:42 AM

lunyone said:
Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).


Well, that's a pity, but probably after this I can make a better PC plan.
With that hardware I think it'll be around 300~500VA, and yeah, that's a better choice to choose a smaller PSU.
Well, the screen I wanted is 1366x768, so probably I'll play in that resolution or in 720p.

Thanks for the reply/answer!

mafisometal said:
For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.


Um.. is that processor the kind of integrated gpu processor? I heard integrated gpu won't do really well in gaming. Well, actually I don't really know about those kind of things (if it's obselete or not), but of course I prefer the one that's good enough in the long run.

Thanks for the reply/answer!
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June 12, 2013 4:18:23 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
Since you are going to need the extra core for games and video editing, the AMD setup is the best choice. Get the Asus motherboard and the 5750. That is the best and most powerful setup in my opinion.


I think so too. But why get the Asus instead of Gigabyte? What's the advantages (if you know) of ASUS vs GB?
I think 5750 is more powerful than 6670, (7 vs 6) only older, well thanks for replying/answering my question! :D 
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June 12, 2013 4:19:35 AM

kyururin said:
lunyone said:
Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).


Well, that's a pity, but probably after this I can make a better PC plan.
With that hardware I think it'll be around 300~500VA, and yeah, that's a better choice to choose a smaller PSU.
Well, the screen I wanted is 1366x768, so probably I'll play in that resolution or in 720p.

Thanks for the reply/answer!

mafisometal said:
For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.


Um.. is that processor the kind of integrated gpu processor? I heard integrated gpu won't do really well in gaming. Well, actually I don't really know about those kind of things (if it's obselete or not), but of course I prefer the one that's good enough in the long run.

Thanks for the reply/answer!


Did you get to read my whole (edited post)?
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June 12, 2013 4:23:45 AM

lunyone said:
kyururin said:
lunyone said:
Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).


Well, that's a pity, but probably after this I can make a better PC plan.
With that hardware I think it'll be around 300~500VA, and yeah, that's a better choice to choose a smaller PSU.
Well, the screen I wanted is 1366x768, so probably I'll play in that resolution or in 720p.

Thanks for the reply/answer!

mafisometal said:
For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.


Um.. is that processor the kind of integrated gpu processor? I heard integrated gpu won't do really well in gaming. Well, actually I don't really know about those kind of things (if it's obselete or not), but of course I prefer the one that's good enough in the long run.

Thanks for the reply/answer!


Did you get to read my whole (edited post)?


Yes, of course. It's very helpful, and I'll save the recommendations. Really, thank you very much for the recommendations (probably cost less than I've expected). The only thing isn't very good is availability in my country. Probably they'll show up in late 2013.
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June 12, 2013 4:35:14 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
kyururin said:
u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
Since you are going to need the extra core for games and video editing, the AMD setup is the best choice. Get the Asus motherboard and the 5750. That is the best and most powerful setup in my opinion.


I think so too. But why get the Asus instead of Gigabyte? What's the advantages (if you know) of ASUS vs GB?
I think 5750 is more powerful than 6670, (7 vs 6) only older, well thanks for replying/answering my question! :D 


For one, it is cheaper. Also, you probably won't need 4 RAM slots, you'll be fine with 2x 4 GB modules (which is the max). It does have its downsides besides the 2 RAM slots such as it only supports SATA 3.0 GB/s, but it does allow you to overclock. I also am a bit biased towards Asus as in the 20 years of building PCs, I never had an Asus product fail on me. If you can find an Asus board with 4 RAM slots, SATA III and a core unlocker for a similar price of the Gigabyte, you should get it, IMO. Like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Really makes much sense. I don't really need something high-end/extra features, as long as the PC fit my needs now and for the next few years. I think I'll get the ASUS when I going to built it later. Actually I'm a bit afraid because many says ASUS MB isn't very durable. Thanks.
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June 12, 2013 4:37:05 AM

kyururin said:
lunyone said:
kyururin said:
lunyone said:
Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).


Well, that's a pity, but probably after this I can make a better PC plan.
With that hardware I think it'll be around 300~500VA, and yeah, that's a better choice to choose a smaller PSU.
Well, the screen I wanted is 1366x768, so probably I'll play in that resolution or in 720p.

Thanks for the reply/answer!

mafisometal said:
For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.


Um.. is that processor the kind of integrated gpu processor? I heard integrated gpu won't do really well in gaming. Well, actually I don't really know about those kind of things (if it's obselete or not), but of course I prefer the one that's good enough in the long run.

Thanks for the reply/answer!


Did you get to read my whole (edited post)?


Yes, of course. It's very helpful, and I'll save the recommendations. Really, thank you very much for the recommendations (probably cost less than I've expected). The only thing isn't very good is availability in my country. Probably they'll show up in late 2013.


Well all of those builds are close to the bottom of what I'd recommend at this point in time, if you want to have some decent/average gaming performance. Let us know what country your ordering from and we can try and help you, but please come back when your ready to order, because things will change from now until Aug-Sept.
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June 12, 2013 4:42:46 AM

lunyone said:
kyururin said:
lunyone said:
kyururin said:
lunyone said:
Well to be quite honest, it would be better to come back when your ready to buy, because prices and availability will be completely different than right now. I know planning for a new build is good and all, but the PC landscape will be quite different in Aug/Sept timeframe.

Not sure that you have all of the parts, because you need CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Case/PSU/ and/or DVD drive. I'm guessing with your proposed parts, you might be better off with a bit smaller PSU to allow for a better GPU, because the 6670/5670 isn't going to give you high or ultra settings on Skyrim. You also forgot to mention what resolution you'd be playing at, which will affect your gameplay (depending on yoru parts selection).


Well, that's a pity, but probably after this I can make a better PC plan.
With that hardware I think it'll be around 300~500VA, and yeah, that's a better choice to choose a smaller PSU.
Well, the screen I wanted is 1366x768, so probably I'll play in that resolution or in 720p.

Thanks for the reply/answer!

mafisometal said:
For AMD,

I say check out the AMD APU's like the A10-6800k. This Chip has GPU/CPU all in one. The nice thing is that it will outperform your current build at a similar price. The motherboard will be FM2 socket. The only thing that you'll have to spend some money on is the RAM. APU's require good RAM for the GPU. So i suggest 2133Mhz Kingstong Hyper X Beast RAM or something along those lines.

ASUS personally has a better put together set up, with great Software for adjustments, especially for novice builders.

Reason why i say APU is because the Athlon chip is extremely obselete. You'll want something current, so that down the line if you ever need to upgrade, you'll be able to. Since you're going budget, this is very flexible, even for future CPU's. From what the news is, AMD will have 1 more iteration with FM2. So you'll be great for 2 years.


Um.. is that processor the kind of integrated gpu processor? I heard integrated gpu won't do really well in gaming. Well, actually I don't really know about those kind of things (if it's obselete or not), but of course I prefer the one that's good enough in the long run.

Thanks for the reply/answer!


Did you get to read my whole (edited post)?


Yes, of course. It's very helpful, and I'll save the recommendations. Really, thank you very much for the recommendations (probably cost less than I've expected). The only thing isn't very good is availability in my country. Probably they'll show up in late 2013.


Well all of those builds are close to the bottom of what I'd recommend at this point in time, if you want to have some decent/average gaming performance. Let us know what country your ordering from and we can try and help you, but please come back when your ready to order, because things will change from now until Aug-Sept.


Yes, thank you very much. Um.. I'm from Indonesia, but I think I'll buy the parts locally if it's available. (shipping cost from foreign country --probably it's cost too much for me)

I'll change the parts when better performance/price parts available for me. But maybe I'll choose something similar to your recommendations.
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June 12, 2013 4:50:44 AM

Sounds like a plan, just come back when your ready to buy your parts and we'll try and help you tweak your selection to get the most from your $. :) 
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June 12, 2013 4:59:12 AM

lunyone said:
Sounds like a plan, just come back when your ready to buy your parts and we'll try and help you tweak your selection to get the most from your $. :) 


I'll do that. :D 
For now, I'm gonna stick with my only pc-- a lenovo laptop I bought in 2010. I rarely turn it off, but I guess that's okay. When I accompany my nephew buying a new laptop, I saw a clearly better laptop (slightly better processor, significantly better gpu), with price difference around $100. (mine $480, my nephew's $380). So I think I need to upgrade my PC. Wanted a laptop too-- but I probably won't allow myself to, because I wanted my new one to be a capable gaming, home multimedia pc that's better and cheaper than laptop. Don't need mobility anyway.
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