In-game resolution problem pls !!!

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Hi all, am facing an in game resolution problem as every thing is good at 1920x1080 resolution but any other resolution below it isn't working as the picture isn't fit at the full screen as there is a black frame bar surrounds the picture as if its a screen inside the screen...everything was good at my previous video card as it was Gigabyte GTS 250 1 GB DX10 (yea its an old one) but i didnt face this resolutions issues with it..then i got my new Sapphire HD 7870 XT 2GB in which i started there to face this issue below the 1920x1080..even in BF3 there is more than one 1920x1080 resolutions as there is 1920x1080 60.00H2 (which is the highest one) and it works good with it, and there is the 1920x1080 50.00H2 and from here and below the issue starts..i have done the underscan and overscan trick from the CCC but it worked only at the desktop as the desktop is successfully filling my screen but inside the games the black bar surrounding the picture is still persisting..so i dont know what is the solution then ?!!
BTW my monitor is Samung 23" LED SyncMaster SA350 and am using HDMI cable and its highest resolution is 1920x1080.
And here is some pic. and sry for the pic. bad quality actually its from my old mobile phone but u will notice the black space surrounding the game picture
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I guess CCC may be able to know something as to if it should be off or on... my 3 pcs here have it off by default. Maybe its a driver thing, no idea.

"and do u see that may be cuz the image scaling of the screen with the image scaling of the CCC has made this conflict u mean ?!! if u mean so, then i see its logic point of view from u. " --yes.

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In the CCC, did you enable GPU scaling in the My Digital Flat Panels->Properties screen?

Don't use resolutions with unsupported refresh rates ie. anything lower than 59.97hz. You should be able to use most resolutions as long as they are 60hz. Try using variants of the 16:9 such as 1280x720, 1600x900, 1920x1080. Some of the resolutions are 16x10 and you will either have stretching or black bars if you use those.
 

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thnx 4 the reply dude actually i guess i have done this scale thing and yea it worked but only at my desktop but inside the games the resolutions only works at 1920x1080 even not at all 1920x1080 resolutions as i mentioned before but any thing below the 1920x1080 60.00 H2 is making this issue even 1920x1080 50.00 is not working and 1680x1050 60.00 isnt working too although any widescreen resolutions was working without any such issues with my previous GTS 250 whether its at 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 or 60.00 or 50.00 so its strange !!
and heres a picture of the scale http://
 

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thnnx 4 the reply dude..actually i guess i have done that if u mean this
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no that's not what i meant, go to CCC, then click My flat panels, then click Properties, then click Enable GPU scaling. Its not overscan or underscan.

Also, you may want to try DVI out from the card to the monitor, you will get different options in CCC
 

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yea i have checked that and found it already marked and ticked on it and am using HDMI, actually i dont have DVI at my screen its just HDMI and VGA..my video card supports the both HDMI and DVI, i tried the VGA to DVI converter and the resolutions are working good without these issues but as u know its of course not with the same picture quality.
my previous video card was using HDMI too and these things didnt happen before as i was able to choose any resolution freely without any of these black frame issue. !!
BTW u suggested me to Try using variants of the 16:9 such as 1280x720, 1600x900, 1920x1080 can u tell me more details about how and what to do exactly again pls if u dont mind ?!!
 

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If you are in game, and want to change resolution, you set the resolution in game, not the desktop (as you know). So when you pick the resolution, use one of those res's.

One alternative is find the .inf for your monitor and install that. It may remove all the resolutions that the monitor does not support. I find it odd that your monitor is showing res/refreshes that are not suitable. And usually the Overscan/Underscan option is reserved for HDTVs.

found this googling:
Thank you for purchasing the Samsung SA350 display.

When connecting via HDMI, please do the following to ensure the best possible picture quality:
1) Go to SETUP&RESET in the menu options
2) Under PC/AV Mode, choose PC if connecting a PC via HDMI. Choose AV if connecting an AV device like gaming console, cable box, etc.

This should produce a clear picture.

As for the black border you are getting around the edges, please be informed that this is not due to the monitor.

The issue lies with your GPU settings. Please go to the Catalyst Control Center of your PC. Look for "Overscan" and adjust the setting so that your image fills the screen.

~Samsung_Monitor_PC
 

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1st many many thanks friend for your effort for helping me i really appreciate that..really many thanks man.
Actually most of the solutions i have googled is how to solve the black border issue at the desktop and actually that isnt my problem as the desktop is ok and i dont have the black border at it..the problem occurs inside the game it self, and yea for sure i change the game resolution from inside the game not from the desktop, and the driver u gave me actually is for a different screen model not 4 mine as my screen is 23" not 22" and its model is different but anyway i managed to get my screen drive and firmware update and actually i found my screen is already uptodate but this didnt change any thing as the problem is still existing.
Then i have got an idea and decided to try it as i said may be it will work and actually it worked although i didnt expect it to work and thats what i have done, i restored the CCC to its default condition again http://..then,
i have unmarked the image scaling choice as in this pic. http://(although it should be marked as a default choice as the the AMD instructions stated that in its link http://)
and actually the results were excellent as every widescreen resolution (in the game) became filling the whole screen without any black border issues but now i dont know and am a little confused, so what the image scaling should do when it was marked on it and what happened then when i unmarked it ?!! and will this solution i have made will have any side effects at my screen or at my video card u think ?!! can u tell me your point of view about these questions if u dont mind pls. !!
 

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That's great that its fixed. The reason that it is marked off by default is that most monitors can do scaling, and double scaling doesn't make the image look very good. You would maybe get double scaling if GPU and screen did it. You shouldn't have side effects, once its set up and is working it usually means you have the right stuff configured.

Also, with regards to the driver - even if its not the same model, it doesn't matter monitor drivers are just a collection of refresh rates and resolutions that are supported. And also sometimes a color profile. But even if you put the wrong one on, it just limits the resolutions you can use (but most of them would work anyways).
 

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oh ok...i get it..but btw it was marked on by the default not off..what happened is i turned it off..i mean the opposite is what happened as it was already on and me who turned it off so thats why i dont know why the CCC was turning the image scale on if this was the reason for the image black borders as when i turned it off or marked it off the resolutions worked naturally ?!!
shouldnt the CCC notice that the screen can image scale it self so the image scaling choice in the CCC should be turned or marked off not one ?!!
and do u see that may be cuz the image scaling of the screen with the image scaling of the CCC has made this conflict u mean ?!! if u mean so, then i see its logic point of view from u.
 

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I guess CCC may be able to know something as to if it should be off or on... my 3 pcs here have it off by default. Maybe its a driver thing, no idea.

"and do u see that may be cuz the image scaling of the screen with the image scaling of the CCC has made this conflict u mean ?!! if u mean so, then i see its logic point of view from u. " --yes.
 
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mhm..yea may be is a drive thing as i remember the image scale was marked on since i installed the CCC so thats a lil bit strange !!..anyway i guess and i hope that my problem is over and really many many thanks dude for your help..i really appreciate it and will contact u in any later issues :)