To change memory frequency in BIOS

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Astralv

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I installed Corsair Vengeance 1600 Mhz on a new build, and it shows 1333 in BIOS. I found under Advanced/ AI Tweaker Memory frequency. It was set to Auto. I changed it to 1600. When I selected “Exit and Save”, it also said, “CPU- Auto --> Sync all cores”. I did not change any settings for the CPU- why does it shows as a component to save? Is this the only place to change memory frequency? What about XMP profile? Thank you.
 

Astralv

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Was I supposed to change 133 to 1600 the way I did or keep it on Auto? I am not sure how to enable XMP profile. On my other Asus motherboard, I found it but it did not have anything to enable or disable- it was only showing the numbers. On this MoBo I will have to look for it again- it looks slightly different than older version.
 

Tradesman1

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Yes, the XMP Profile comes from data in the SPD of the sticks and is specific to the set of sticks you bought, i.e. you buy a 2 stick set the data is for the 2 stick set, a 4 stick set will have different data, which is one reason not a good idea to mix sets i.e. 2 sets of 2x2GB or whatever
 

Astralv

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I am not sure how to enable the profile. Under Tools, it lists Corsair Vengeance at 1333 Mhz. Then it has JEDEC with different numbers in column, including 1333 Mhz, and next column XMP1 with 1600, 9,9,24. And XMP 2 column contains no data. But it does not offer to enable anything. It just there.
 

Tradesman1

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Looks like take and ENABLE the Asus Multicore Enhancement, on the main tweaker page, go to AI Overclock Tuner, select XMP, then check towards the very bottom the Memory Frequency Option and see what it is now set to.....seems very disjoited, but that's how it appears to work from the manual
 

Astralv

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Thank you for the help. I did what you suggested- it changed all timing from Auto to 9,9,9,24 and 1600 Mhz. Also it changed "CPU Core Ratio" from Auto to "Sync All Cores". Any ideas what it means?

Was I supposed to enable XMP on my other build? It shows 10, 10, 10, 27 and 1600 Mhz- Also Vengeance- I did not change anything after installation.

How is 2400 Mhz memory works for you? I was advised against of it, this is why I got 1600- it should work longer in the long run.
 

Tradesman1

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It syncs the CPU cores to the freq of the DRAM and should increase overall performance a bit, for most folks XMP makes it easy to set the DRAM to it's specs easily, it only w/ DRAM 1600 and up (came out when Intels CPUs were native to 1333 DRAM. So, yes, if not enabled and not to spec XMP is the easiest way to go.

I basically build higher end systems for gamers, businesses and individuals that use and push their systems, I myself am not a gamer, but I most definitely push my rigs, while not the norm, I often have in excess of 20+GB of DRAM in use, so I max my rigs out. On my SB, the 2500K, 2133/9 was the top it could run, to hit 2400 with it I had to drop the CAS to CL11, and performance was a little less than the 2133/9 sticks. Same w/ IB, but I got a good 3570K and it handles the 2400/10 just fine, to push it to 2600 or 2666 I had to go to a 12CL and raise voltages (to much to my liking)...but I'm quite happy with the 2400 sticks, I get people all the time (mainly new clients) that tell me how they have read that you see no gain above 1600, so I put them on one of my rigs and we open a few browser windows, Word, maybe a VM or 2, some other apps and I let them play around for awhile, then we shut down, I'll put 1600 or 1866 in and have them do the same basic things...almost never fails they ask if somethings wrong with the computer and I tell 'em, That's 1600 or 1866 DRAM or whatever I put in....Even when they don't ask I often run blind test and have folks use a system and then tell them I'm making a few tweaks, have them do it again and about 85% of the time when done, I ask which way was better/faster, they all will pick the one with faster sticks,,,,so what's that lady say in the commercial "they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true" ;) I see articles all the time with the 1600 is just as good as any other, all the time, but they are running BMs and not real world scenarios, further if you read them closely you can find all kinds of faults, problems, and just plain things that aren't true, much of which is because they don't know DRAM , so they don't know what they are doing. I've seen a few 'experts' criticize sets of DRAM saying that XMP from the sticks didn't load the correct timings - well duh! the sticks aren't magicians, they have data stored in the SPD of the module taht contains the proper settings for the set of DRAM, it's up to the mobo BIOS to take that data and implement it, it can only do so as close as it can based on how it's programmed - similar to giving a chef a recipe and saying make this, he can only do as much as he can with the ingredients on hand - may not be sweet enough if he/she didn't have enough sugar.

Anyway, if I left anything out, give me holler, I try and provide the best response I can
 

Astralv

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I was advised against of anything above 1600, so I went with it, also I wanted to get 2133 that I would not have to use above 1.5.

My Ivy Bridge build has Corsair but I think it was that one 10-10-10 27 memory, so I did not think I had to change anything as it was showing at 1600 right away. May be I should compare readings to XMP profile? It did not ask me to sync cores to anything- everything is on Auto as it was originally.

I was hoping one day I will be able to build systems for others, but I would need to know more to charge money for it. Do you need any certifications or business license to do that? I am certified in electronic health records, which I had to study with A+ textbook for. But I do not have A+.
 

Tradesman1

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To get best performance with a set it can vary, generally using XMP does the job. Some mobos default to 1600 now and put their own timings in. No don't know of anywhere you need to be licensed to build, I network with consultants and builders, mainly in the US but also a few abroad and haven't heard anything....A good thing to remember though, don't believe everything you read, theirs a lot of writers out there that have no idea what they are talking about
 

Astralv

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On my 2nd computer that I did not enable XMP profile, I compared the readings I found under the JEDEC column and they are the same as in the XMP column except tFAW that shows like 24 under JEDEC and 27 under XMP, and tFAW also smaller number under JEDEC than under XMP. The frequency is 1600 Mhz already, and everything else is set to Auto. Do I still need to enable XMP profile?

Thank you.
 

Astralv

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I do not know what the numbers mean. On the 1st computer that I did enable XMP, I noted, some numnets were lower under the JEDEC profile, than XMP, but I do not know if lower always better. I had to use XMP profile to change 1333 to 1600 and numbers changed with it. On the 2nd computer- I dont know if I need to do it. I mean- it runs fine, but so as the other computer when it was 1333...
 

Tradesman1

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If it's at the spec speed and fine then basically it's OK, can leave as is or enable XMP. XMP is sort of like DRAM for Dummies, without it, when you get into high freq sticks there aren' a lot of folks that know how to set it up, unless the BIOS can make all the adjustments needed in the advance timings, and all to often they can't, that's one of the biggest reasons you see so many BIOS updates, they are constantly updating the BIOSs for DRAM though they seldom mention DRAM - and why is this You ask? Simple they want to get these mobos out to the market, so the 'testing' they do is at the mobo defaults, which is generally 1333/1600....I find it hilarious to look at QVLs on AMD 3+ mobos showing sets of DRAM up to 2400 when AMD doesn't even have a CPU that can run 2400 DRAM (Note: I say CPU, not APU which run on the FM series sockets), their APUs like fast DRAM)...It's because they take these 2400 sets, plug them in, they come up set at the mobo default of 1333 and yes they run at 1333, but a customer who spent a high premium on 2400 sticks is POed, see it all the time, even wrote an op/ed piece on it here:

http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10566
 
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