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Would a 965 BE OC'd to 4.0ghz be equivalent to an i5-2500k stock in terms of gaming performance?

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June 14, 2013 7:16:03 AM

I remember reading this somewhere on here that some guy OC'd his 965 BE to 4.0ghz and said it was just as good as an i5-2500k stock.

I'm interested in this because I would easily put down $30-50 for a good fan&heatsink to OC my 965 BE to 4.0ghz to get a decent increase in fps in very CPU intensive games.

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June 14, 2013 7:21:40 AM

Mine for sure isn't. I have a 3570k and my kids machine is a 965BE, the 965BE is far slower in almost everything it does. It doesn't mean it's not worth OCing (mine is at 3.8) . . .just that it will never get to 2500k/3570k performance.
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June 14, 2013 7:27:16 AM

even at 4.5 Ghz im doubtful if it will reach i5-2500K performance. it may come close. but i dont think it will match it. atleast on these overclocks.
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June 14, 2013 7:27:26 AM

The 3570k is far superior to the 965BE even if u overclock the 965BE in gaming

still what are you using the 965be for?

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June 14, 2013 7:30:27 AM

The 965BE can not be OCd to a level that gets close to 1155/1150 i5s.
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June 14, 2013 7:35:22 AM

Not quite on the same level. My 965 @ 4,336 Mhz was within a few percent of a stock 2500k. In some situations the 965 would be faster, in others the 2500k would be.

Also, keep in mind that most 2500k can easily reach the upper 4Ghz range.

Here is a comparison of my 7870XT with a stock 2500k and a 965 @ 4.336Mhz. Keep in mind the 7870XT was overclocked 100Mhz faster on the 2500k.

Stock 2500k - score 5890 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/265481 7870XT @ 1200Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

965 @ 4.336 - score 5535 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/225687 7870XT @ 1100Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

With the 7870XT being clocked the same as the 2500k, I would guess the score would be about 100 - 200 higher.

Also, notice the 965's physics score compared to the 2500k.
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June 14, 2013 7:47:05 AM

trane20 said:
The 3570k is far superior to the 965BE even if u overclock the 965BE in gaming

still what are you using the 965be for?



Because I was on a budget and most of the games I play perform just fine with my 965 OC'd @ 3.6ghz paired with my 2gb 7850 OC'd @ 1050mhz from 860mhz, my only worry is being somewhat future proof in terms of games.
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June 14, 2013 7:52:23 AM

crazy8cs said:
trane20 said:
The 3570k is far superior to the 965BE even if u overclock the 965BE in gaming

still what are you using the 965be for?



Because I was on a budget and most of the games I play perform just fine with my 965 OC'd @ 3.6ghz paired with my 2gb 7850 OC'd @ 1050mhz from 860mhz, my only worry is being somewhat future proof in terms of games.


ok so whats ur resolution?
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June 14, 2013 7:57:59 AM

ish416 said:
Not quite on the same level. My 965 @ 4,336 Mhz was within a few percent of a stock 2500k. In some situations the 965 would be faster, in others the 2500k would be.

Also, keep in mind that most 2500k can easily reach the upper 4Ghz range.

Here is a comparison of my 7870XT with a stock 2500k and a 965 @ 4.336Mhz. Keep in mind the 7870XT was overclocked 100Mhz faster on the 2500k.

Stock 2500k - score 5890 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/265481 7870XT @ 1200Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

965 @ 4.336 - score 5535 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/225687 7870XT @ 1100Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

With the 7870XT being clocked the same as the 2500k, I would guess the score would be about 100 - 200 higher.

Also, notice the 965's physics score compared to the 2500k.



Yeah, that makes me want to just save up for a 2500k/3570k, new mobo, and 1.5v RAM and overclock that CPU to see what insane performance advantage I'd get over my barely OC'd 965 BE. Odd that the 965 still has an advantage in the physics benchmark, do you think at stock 3.4ghz it would still have that advantage?
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June 14, 2013 8:01:02 AM

trane20 said:
crazy8cs said:
trane20 said:
The 3570k is far superior to the 965BE even if u overclock the 965BE in gaming

still what are you using the 965be for?



Because I was on a budget and most of the games I play perform just fine with my 965 OC'd @ 3.6ghz paired with my 2gb 7850 OC'd @ 1050mhz from 860mhz, my only worry is being somewhat future proof in terms of games.


ok so whats ur resolution?


Becoming a god, or getting a 2500k/3570k, either would be just as satisfying.
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June 14, 2013 8:25:26 AM

Pardon me but i did not understand this

"Becoming a god, or getting a 2500k/3570k, either would be just as satisfying."
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June 14, 2013 8:40:45 AM

trane20 said:
Pardon me but i did not understand this

"Becoming a god, or getting a 2500k/3570k, either would be just as satisfying."


I thought you were asking my what my resolution or solution was, lol, are you asking me what my screen resolution is?
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June 14, 2013 8:56:37 AM

crazy8cs said:
trane20 said:
Pardon me but i did not understand this

"Becoming a god, or getting a 2500k/3570k, either would be just as satisfying."


I thought you were asking my what my resolution or solution was, lol, are you asking me what my screen resolution is?



obviously i wax asking u about ur rezolution
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June 14, 2013 9:04:19 AM

No. The closest thing from AMD that will get close to that (if it already hasn't surpassed it) is the FX 8350, and that might need OCing.
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June 14, 2013 9:04:47 AM

trane20 said:
crazy8cs said:
trane20 said:
Pardon me but i did not understand this

"Becoming a god, or getting a 2500k/3570k, either would be just as satisfying."

obviously i wax asking u about ur rezolution
I thought you were asking my what my resolution or solution was, lol, are you asking me what my screen resolution is?




1920x1080 @120hz
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June 14, 2013 9:10:45 AM

crazy8cs said:
ish416 said:
Not quite on the same level. My 965 @ 4,336 Mhz was within a few percent of a stock 2500k. In some situations the 965 would be faster, in others the 2500k would be.

Also, keep in mind that most 2500k can easily reach the upper 4Ghz range.

Here is a comparison of my 7870XT with a stock 2500k and a 965 @ 4.336Mhz. Keep in mind the 7870XT was overclocked 100Mhz faster on the 2500k.

Stock 2500k - score 5890 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/265481 7870XT @ 1200Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

965 @ 4.336 - score 5535 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/225687 7870XT @ 1100Mhz core / 1600Mhz memory

With the 7870XT being clocked the same as the 2500k, I would guess the score would be about 100 - 200 higher.

Also, notice the 965's physics score compared to the 2500k.



Yeah, that makes me want to just save up for a 2500k/3570k, new mobo, and 1.5v RAM and overclock that CPU to see what insane performance advantage I'd get over my barely OC'd 965 BE. Odd that the 965 still has an advantage in the physics benchmark, do you think at stock 3.4ghz it would still have that advantage?


It's been a while but I think a stock 965 scores somewhere around 5000 in the Firestrike CPU tests.

Here is a straight on comparison of the 2500K and the 965 @ 4,336Mhz.
Same 7870XT running at the same clock speeds.

965 @ 4,336Mhz -score 5873 -http://www.3dmark.com/fs/293460
2500k @ stock - score 5890 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/265481

So 17 points difference. I would call that within the margin of error for 3dmark but the score is still higher with the stock 2500k.

Here are an FX6300 and 8350 also with same 7870XT at 1200Mhz core / 1600 Mhz memory, just for comparison...
FX6300 @ 4,739Mhz - score 5964 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/323105
FX8350 @ 4,628Mhz - score 6122 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/343074

However, the CPU tests tell a different story..
965 @ 4,336 - score 6373
2500k @ stock -score 6200
6350 @ 4,739 - score 7375
8350 @ 4,268 - score 8923

You don't mention what your GPU is or what motherboard you have.

I would suggest sticking with an AMD CPU if your motherboard will support the newer FX processors and dumping the remainder on a better or second video card. If however, your board will not support the newer FX CPUs, then I would seriously consider a 3570K with a good motherboard.
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June 14, 2013 9:11:20 AM

Well bro if u want somethin near the i5 2500k
u have to invest some money
if ur mobo is AM3+ Then get a Fx8320 or 50
it would be the best u can do with your current setup
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