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June 14, 2013 3:36:56 PM

Which one should I buy and why?

I'm not interested in any overclocking or related themes.

My case is a THERMALTAKE CHASER-MK1.

MSI GTX 660Ti: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N660T...

EVGA GTX 660Ti: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-2048MB-Graphics-02G-...

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June 14, 2013 3:47:46 PM

The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.
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June 14, 2013 3:50:43 PM

I would buy the EVGA one because its cheaper, it doesn't dump hot air into your case, and it will cool better if you ever decide to SLI it.
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June 14, 2013 3:55:12 PM

There is also speculation of the GTX 760 being released around the 25th, Probably a rebadged 670 at the $300 price point. Might be worth it to wait and see.
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June 14, 2013 3:55:41 PM

Darkman69 said:
The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.


I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.

Zenkor said:
I would buy the EVGA one because its cheaper, it doesn't dump hot air into your case, and it will cool better if you ever decide to SLI it.


I currently have no idea about SLI and all that stuff but I'm sure I'll learn in the future and probably, get a second video card.
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June 14, 2013 3:56:55 PM

Zenkor said:
There is also speculation of the GTX 760 being released around the 25th, Probably a rebadged 670 at the $300 price point. Might be worth it to wait and see.


Didn't know this. Anyways I'm buying it at the end of July, I'll wait and see, thanks for the info.
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June 14, 2013 4:06:01 PM

TheMazi said:
Darkman69 said:
The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.


I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.


? the 7950 is faster and the same price as 660ti. The 660ti is way more expensive for how it performs. You can get an HD 7950 card for even cheaper with 4 free games than the cards you listed.
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June 14, 2013 4:07:10 PM

If you do plan to SLI, make sure you have an SLI compatible motherboard and power supply (with enough 12v amps). Basically you just install another (identical) video card on your motherboard and hook up the SLI bridge, make sure SLI is enabled in the nVidia control panel, and ~double your fps. I have just recently done my first SLI configuration with GTX580s and was surprised how easy it was to setup. You may have to refer to your motherboard manual though to find out which pci express slots to use, it may not be obvious.
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June 14, 2013 4:09:40 PM

Darkman69 said:
TheMazi said:
Darkman69 said:
The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.


I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.


? the 7950 is faster and the same price as 660ti. The 660ti is way more expensive for how it performs. You can get an HD 7950 card for even cheaper with 4 free games than the cards you listed.


Some people are not interested in AMD cards due to their history of dodgy drivers and crossfire is terrible.
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June 14, 2013 4:32:14 PM

Zenkor said:
If you do plan to SLI, make sure you have an SLI compatible motherboard and power supply (with enough 12v amps). Basically you just install another (identical) video card on your motherboard and hook up the SLI bridge, make sure SLI is enabled in the nVidia control panel, and ~double your fps. I have just recently done my first SLI configuration with GTX580s and was surprised how easy it was to setup. You may have to refer to your motherboard manual though to find out which pci express slots to use, it may not be obvious.


Wow! Is it as easy as that?

I'll get a MAXIMUS VI HERO which supports up to quad-SLI if I'm not wrong.

I'm still not sure what PSU buy, maybe you can give me a hand?
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June 14, 2013 4:46:00 PM

Zenkor said:
Darkman69 said:
TheMazi said:
Darkman69 said:
The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.


I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.


? the 7950 is faster and the same price as 660ti. The 660ti is way more expensive for how it performs. You can get an HD 7950 card for even cheaper with 4 free games than the cards you listed.


Some people are not interested in AMD cards due to their history of dodgy drivers and crossfire is terrible.


There not dodgy that's why they outperform nvidia at every price point right. I have been hearing that the latest nvidia friver is amount the most buggy ever released. The only time I had a problem with AMD driver is when the nvidia driver conflicted with it. I have had all the same problems with the same frequency on both re and green GPUs.
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June 14, 2013 5:01:20 PM

TheMazi said:
Darkman69 said:
The HD 7950 is a better card and comes with 4 free games.


I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.

Zenkor said:
I would buy the EVGA one because its cheaper, it doesn't dump hot air into your case, and it will cool better if you ever decide to SLI it.


I currently have no idea about SLI and all that stuff but I'm sure I'll learn in the future and probably, get a second video card.
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I'm not interested in Radeon cards and it's way more expensive than the other two cards that I had mentioned. Thanks anyways.


Yeah the 7950 is the better card :I, it is THE SAME PRICE (well, maybe 10$ more), includes free games 1-3, haven't heard of 4 free games, just wow, AMD has had non-dodgy drivers since October, and yeah get the 7950 if you want the better performance.

ALSO, IF YOU THINK I AM A FANBOY, I'm not, I would get the Titan or 780 if I had the money, but I don't!, the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products

UPDATE: Actually is does come with 4 games! (This is the best cooler for the 7950 BY FAR) 304$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 14, 2013 5:12:19 PM

I'm not sure if the maximus vi supports quad sli, but even if it does you will need 2x dual gpu cards such as the GTX 690. It does not support a configuration such as 4x 660tis. Here is another Asus motherboard option that has the same chipset and most of the same features for a lot less money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will need to make sure your power supply is compliant with the new Haswell i7/i5 since they have a new super low power requirement.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 14, 2013 5:21:14 PM

MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.
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June 14, 2013 6:10:06 PM

Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's
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June 14, 2013 6:19:36 PM

MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.
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June 14, 2013 6:21:28 PM

Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.


Thank you for the source!! I didn't know about this, now its time to ruin some fanboys days XD
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June 14, 2013 6:23:28 PM

MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.


Thank you for the source!! I didn't know about this, now its time to ruin some fanboys days XD


Cool man. I like Open Source as well.
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June 14, 2013 6:58:30 PM

People buy what they want/like/feel comfortable with. No different than the Mustang GT vs Camaro SS argument. You are not helping anyone, nobody cares about you, and at the end of the day people are still going to buy what they want. Why don't you guys contribute something useful instead of filling up this thread with garbage.
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June 14, 2013 7:18:32 PM

Zenkor said:
I'm not sure if the maximus vi supports quad sli, but even if it does you will need 2x dual gpu cards such as the GTX 690. It does not support a configuration such as 4x 660tis. Here is another Asus motherboard option that has the same chipset and most of the same features for a lot less money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will need to make sure your power supply is compliant with the new Haswell i7/i5 since they have a new super low power requirement.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'll probably get a Corsair GS 700w as I've read it is a very efficient PSU (85%), it's compatible with Haswell processors and SLI.

I'll read and watch videos about that mother, thanks for your work dude!
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June 14, 2013 7:33:15 PM

Motherboards are probably the toughest part to pick because there are just so many options and features. Do so research on chipsets if you're interested. A $130ish motherboard will probably have everything you need on it unless you want some 'exotic' feature(s). More expensive ones will usually just have better overclocking performance.
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June 14, 2013 7:34:55 PM

Zenkor said:
People buy what they want/like/feel comfortable with. No different than the Mustang GT vs Camaro SS argument. You are not helping anyone, nobody cares about you, and at the end of the day people are still going to buy what they want. Why don't you guys contribute something useful instead of filling up this thread with garbage.


Letting your biased make you become ignorant to others is not good for anything here. The only thing garbage is the price for the performance and crippled memory that the 660ti has. I am glad that the OP has been made aware that there is a better option available for the same money.
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June 14, 2013 7:37:20 PM

Darkman69 said:
Zenkor said:
People buy what they want/like/feel comfortable with. No different than the Mustang GT vs Camaro SS argument. You are not helping anyone, nobody cares about you, and at the end of the day people are still going to buy what they want. Why don't you guys contribute something useful instead of filling up this thread with garbage.


Letting your biased make you become ignorant to others is not good for anything here. The only thing garbage is the price for the performance and crippled memory that the 660ti has.


His question was about which cooler style to buy and why. Where in your post do you answer that?
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June 14, 2013 7:41:23 PM

Zenkor said:
Darkman69 said:
Zenkor said:
People buy what they want/like/feel comfortable with. No different than the Mustang GT vs Camaro SS argument. You are not helping anyone, nobody cares about you, and at the end of the day people are still going to buy what they want. Why don't you guys contribute something useful instead of filling up this thread with garbage.


Letting your biased make you become ignorant to others is not good for anything here. The only thing garbage is the price for the performance and crippled memory that the 660ti has.


His question was about which cooler style to buy and why. Where in your post do you answer that?


Just making sure that he knows that a better option for the same money is available right. Good day. 660ti is the leased desierable nvidia card to get because it can;t handle high setting without crapping out because of the limited mid range memory bus. The 7950 is a full fat high end legit performer .
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June 14, 2013 7:53:32 PM

Considering I already suggested to wait until the GTX760 was released later this month, I don't see your fixation on the 'terrible' 660ti. It really is a shame that it had to come to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-XMmdZyrtk
Tell me again why the 7950 is better?
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June 14, 2013 8:05:21 PM

Zenkor said:
Considering I already suggested to wait until the GTX760 was released later this month, I don't see your fixation on the 'terrible' 660ti. It really is a shame that it had to come to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-XMmdZyrtk
Tell me again why the 7950 is better?

Crossfire is shit. Of course the 660 ti would win in SLI. For single cards the 7950 is the best bang for your buck overclocked 660 ti vs overclocked 7950 makes it look like a 7970 ghz edition vs a 7870.

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June 14, 2013 9:00:33 PM

Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.


Thank you for the source!! I didn't know about this, now its time to ruin some fanboys days XD


Cool man. I like Open Source as well.


I have a pretty cool theory I was thinking about a week ago about how Linux might crush Windows, first of all, I think Game developers are going to code for the PS4 instead of the Xbone (Xbox+One=Xbone) (XD) since I am positive the PS4 will sell more since it is just owning the Xbone with features and is now dev friendly with its x86 architecture, second of all, The Steam Box will be coming into light pretty soon and THAT will use OpenGL so two consoles will use OpenGL vs Xbox using DirectX, PC can use OpenGL, OpenGL is better than DirectX in performance, BUT, not that many devs are accustomed to it (But still :p ), AND Linux is Free so I bet when the developers code for the Steam Box they will inherently be coding for Linux, and all of a sudden PC builders will have an extra 100$ to their disposal on PC parts!

Due to Linux's FAR less demanding everything, and it not fragmenting disk, it will become a good budget PC OS (not to mention its fr33)
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June 14, 2013 9:28:51 PM

MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.


Thank you for the source!! I didn't know about this, now its time to ruin some fanboys days XD


Cool man. I like Open Source as well.


I have a pretty cool theory I was thinking about a week ago about how Linux might crush Windows, first of all, I think Game developers are going to code for the PS4 instead of the Xbone (Xbox+One=Xbone) (XD) since I am positive the PS4 will sell more since it is just owning the Xbone with features and is now dev friendly with its x86 architecture, second of all, The Steam Box will be coming into light pretty soon and THAT will use OpenGL so two consoles will use OpenGL vs Xbox using DirectX, PC can use OpenGL, OpenGL is better than DirectX in performance, BUT, not that many devs are accustomed to it (But still :p ), AND Linux is Free so I bet when the developers code for the Steam Box they will inherently be coding for Linux, and all of a sudden PC builders will have an extra 100$ to their disposal on PC parts!

Due to Linux's FAR less demanding everything, and it not fragmenting disk, it will become a good budget PC OS (not to mention its fr33)


Ya Linus is really great or at leased potentially if it actually got some serious monetary backing like Windows and Mac OSX.
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June 18, 2013 3:15:03 PM

Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
Darkman69 said:
MainStreaming said:
the reason why NVidia's cards are more expensive is because they have MUCH better performance in Adobe's products


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda for OpenCL.


Actually, No the didn't, Only the Mac version of Adobes products have OpenCL, they would NEVER drop CUDA since the majority of people with computers have Nvidia GPU's


Actually Adobe dropped Cuda but they will continue support for legacy software. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/24/adobe-accellerates-c... Adobe dropped Cuda because it's a closed source option not available to everyone. With OpenCL Adobe can be more flexible and reach out to more people not just forcing people into a nivida purchase. Cuda is garbage because it is a proprietary and closed source license and not necessary more powerful at compute than AMDs Stream Processors. In fact AMD is better at GPCompute tasks.


Thank you for the source!! I didn't know about this, now its time to ruin some fanboys days XD


Cool man. I like Open Source as well.


I have a pretty cool theory I was thinking about a week ago about how Linux might crush Windows, first of all, I think Game developers are going to code for the PS4 instead of the Xbone (Xbox+One=Xbone) (XD) since I am positive the PS4 will sell more since it is just owning the Xbone with features and is now dev friendly with its x86 architecture, second of all, The Steam Box will be coming into light pretty soon and THAT will use OpenGL so two consoles will use OpenGL vs Xbox using DirectX, PC can use OpenGL, OpenGL is better than DirectX in performance, BUT, not that many devs are accustomed to it (But still :p ), AND Linux is Free so I bet when the developers code for the Steam Box they will inherently be coding for Linux, and all of a sudden PC builders will have an extra 100$ to their disposal on PC parts!

Due to Linux's FAR less demanding everything, and it not fragmenting disk, it will become a good budget PC OS (not to mention its fr33)


Ya Linus is really great or at leased potentially if it actually got some serious monetary backing like Windows and Mac OSX.


Linux is backed by Google :p 
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