1st Time building PC Trying for gaming/Streaming 800 - 1000$ budget

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Deshaun Dwyer

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So i have no experience building a PC But my friends tell me its not hard, hard part is picking out the parts, after looking at a lot of sites ive been told many times building a PC is the way to go.

Basically im looking to build something that i can game With and Stream said game at 60fps on something like xsplit to twitch.tv. i play various assortments of games that i would like to stream but for the most part i would mostly stream games like League of Legends, Smite, and other Mobas.

I havent owned a desktop since like 1995 and ive been using Laptops ever since so I have no clue on what parts are good for gaming and what parts are not, dont laugh but ive just now learned after some research that just because a part has bigger numbers does not mean its a more advanced /better part than a part from a previous series.

i was going to buy a pc from Cyberpowerpc but after some advice it seems like it would be cheaper to just put it together myself and buy parts from lets say Newegg, im looking to spend anywhere from 800 - 1000$ and maybe a little more but honestly i would prefer it didnt go to far over 900$
I want to be able to stream and play every new gen game out and coming out, like watchdogs. and while it would be amazing to run every game at ultra im sure that would exceed my budget so, being able to run a game at medium - high setting is fine.

I got this laptop about 2 years ago for like 1400$ at bestbuy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695
and at the time it was everything i wanted but 2 years later i have no idea if its good or not or if i just suck at putting together settings, it dosent seem to be able to do what i need it to do.

In case i was extremely unclear(sorry)
im basically just asking any people with real experience in building a pc, what would be the most cost efficient parts that i could buy to do what i want i want to do, for around or under 1k.
 
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Comparing my build, I see little difference actually:
-8core vs 6core. Won't really be much of a difference in gaming as only a few games actually utilize all the cores right now.
-SSD vs monitor. slomo4sho's build has an SSD while i used the money on a monitor. If you actually don't need the monitor, then replace it with a SSD like the Kingston HyperX.
-Corsair 200R is better than the Rosewill Challenger in terms of cable management, which thus increases airflow.
-The XFX psu should be of higher quality.

Gpu's shouldn't overheat over continuous use. If they do, that means you bought a gpu from a non-reputable brand. All the popular GPU brands (Sapphire, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, HIS, Powercooler, Galaxy, etc.) should have decent...
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/04/01/how-to-build-a-powerful-gaming-pc-for-750-ssd-and-operating-system-included/2/

 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.60 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.71 @ Amazon)
Total: $962.21
 
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i may probly need one monitor because i already have 1, the monitor is not really an issue but i will need to be able to hook 2 up to the computer, i would rather windows 7, i dont have a keyboard but i do have a mouse, and I live in the US.
New York State.
 
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This looks really good, only think i may have to buy extra is another monitor i think. would i be able to hook up two to this?
 
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CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($138.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.58 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $991.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 19:13 EDT-0400)
 
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how would i connect to the internet with this, with an ethernet cable or would it be wireless?
 
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It could connect via an ethernet cable but not wirelessly. If you want to connect without the cable, you would have to buy a wireless adapter. They go for $10-20 but I wouldn't suggest it as it would still be slower than directly plugging in the ethernet cable.
However, if you really can't get a cable to your computer, then go buy a wireless adapter. They can be in USB forms or PCIe x1
 
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ok so i was trying to review both of the builds you guys posted and they both look very good, im not sure which is the better choice for me though. i have a friend who actually told me he could sell me his monitor because he uses his tv instead so i wont actually need that. after seeing that windows 8 costs the exact same price as windows 7 i guess i would rather 8. im not really sure of the advantages of a solid state drive or if it would be necessary for streaming but im hoping someone can fill me in on this.
the more expensive graphics card seems to be more high end of course, but for the sake of saving money, if i have it (the money) does it really matter which of the two i get? aside from graphic capability i read a couple reviews of people saying things about overheating after continuous use? i would rather something durable and able to withstand long hours, so im not sure. is the 100$ invesment going to pay off a lot in the end or is it just marginal differences?
Then i see the 6 core and the 8 core, i know both can handle the games i want to play but does the processor effect streaming speeds? would it be possible to fuse parts from each of your builds or is it really a Choice A or Choice B kind of thing?
and thanks a lot for the responses guys, just posting has already left me in a much better spot than i was in before, im preparing to buy all the parts suggested in one of these builds in about 2 weeks from now so i just wana get all the facts straight before buying.
 
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Comparing my build, I see little difference actually:
-8core vs 6core. Won't really be much of a difference in gaming as only a few games actually utilize all the cores right now.
-SSD vs monitor. slomo4sho's build has an SSD while i used the money on a monitor. If you actually don't need the monitor, then replace it with a SSD like the Kingston HyperX.
-Corsair 200R is better than the Rosewill Challenger in terms of cable management, which thus increases airflow.
-The XFX psu should be of higher quality.

Gpu's shouldn't overheat over continuous use. If they do, that means you bought a gpu from a non-reputable brand. All the popular GPU brands (Sapphire, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, HIS, Powercooler, Galaxy, etc.) should have decent enough cooling to prevent the gpu from getting too hot. The only brand I wouldn't recommend is XFX as their cooling tend to be the worst.
If you can, investing in the 7950 will be better as it is stronger and worth the extra money. However, if you feel that you don't need such a strong gpu because you won't be playing demanding games, then the 7870 is a nice choice.
I wouldn't grab the FX-8350 if it means downgrading the gpu. The FX-6350 is more than capable at streaming and handling games with a good gpu like the 7950. The FX-6350 + 7950 > FX-8350 + 7870 in games.
 
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kk that sound really good, ive added all the items to cart and im going to buy them very soon, but as i was looking at the graphics card it only had a spot for 1 monitor, how would i connect 2 monitors to this computer?
is it the graphics card that allows for more than 1, and if i would need a different card which one would be just as good, support 2 monitors, and still work with the build that you gave me?
 
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ya, i was looking at some screenshots of it on newegg and it looked like i could only hook 1 monitor to it. I Wanted to go with a dual monitor set up so if anythign i may not be able to get that one.
 
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All graphic cards are able to hook up more than one monitor. It's just the type of ports you use. I think you say that you can only hook up one monitor because you only see one big port, but there's some small ports next to that. You can use a DVI cable for one monitor and an hdmi cable for the other.
However, the 7950 Vapor-X is on a really good price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003
About the same price but the Vapor-X has better cooling (dual fans vs blower design). You can connect it via VGA, DVI, display port or hdmi (all the connections)
 
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Deshaun Dwyer

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kk thanks a lot, ill get this one, dunno how long these deals will last but ill have to wait about 3-4 weeks as right now im at like 860$, i definetly want this graphics card and id rather not have to lower everything just to make the balance if it would effect the entire build, the memory u suggested is sold out on newegg and id rather just stay on 1 site to avoid confusion so ill just look for another corsair brand 8gb memory, unless that will cause a compatibility issue. anyways you've been a real big help, thanks a lot man, and thanks for answering all my questions, could never have done it alone.
 
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