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What should i do for my 1st gaming PC, i have around a $1500 limit and people are telling me instead of getting the 4 gb 680 which i originally planned, just get the 770 and instead of getting the i5-3570k people say just get the i5-4570 since i wasn't looking to overclock, but should i overclock, is it worth it? because i want this to be a monster but i don't want it to break, and if i should overclock how does it even benefit me? also are there any other recommendation for a GPU and CPU?
 
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Well, the i5 3570k is a fine gaming cpu. If you buy it, you'll have the option to overclock down the road and boost your cpu performance. Overclocking is fairly safe as long as you research how to do it properly first. The only disadvantage is you put additional wear and tear on your cpu and it will fail a year or two earlier than it would at stock speeds.

Also its a waste of money to get a 680 over a 770, they perform about the same and the 770 costs less.
 
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If you're needing everything, you could get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($187.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($646.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.71 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($88.65 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($47.45 @ Amazon)
Total: $2027.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-15 20:42 EDT-0400)

Though there's many expensive parts in there, which can be cut down.


Then this for example, is still pretty powerful, but not as expensive:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Enermax 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.71 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($88.65 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($47.45 @ Amazon)
Total: $1549.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-15 20:48 EDT-0400)

If you only need the hardware and no OS, keyboard, mouse and monitor, then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Enermax 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1281.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-15 20:50 EDT-0400)

Is also quite nice.

OC'ing (overclocking) isn't something you have to do. But it can be fun and helps you learn about computers.

Sometimes you'll see a performance gain and sometimes not. OC'ing isn't without risks and it costs a little more

to have the ability to OC. But it can be nice to have as a back up. The GTX 770 has the same GPU (Graphics Processing Unit)

as the GTX 680, which was the GK 104. However it performs better still and if you're getting a new rig for 1500$ you might

as well get one. Then you'll get a real taste of how awesome PC gaming is. 4GB GPU VRAM is only really needed if you intend

to play at high-resolutions. Then it's nice to have. You should look for GPUs with a minimum of 2GB. Also, the builds above

are just meant as examples. They can be made vastly cheaper. You don't need to spend 1500$ to get a great PC.
 
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well why not the i5-3570k is the i5-4670K better if i were to OC it or not? Also what about AMD hardware, is there any AMD hardware better then what you recommended.
 
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The 3570K is most likely better at OC'ing. It's a generation old though, so it's your choice.

There's AMD hardware which can go neck and neck with an i5, but usually the i5 wins by a small

margin in things like games. From what I've seen at least. The AMD 8350 CPU is a top AMD CPU.
 
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what about AMD Video Cards compared to the Nvidia Video Cards.
 
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Same. They always try one up each other. Currently Nvidia holds the top spots for GPU performance I think.

The 1st and 2nd places for single GPU performance, I think. But there's plenty good cards on either side.

The Radeon 7970 was named the best GPU for the money in that price tier (300 or 400$ or above).

You also get some free games with it. The GTX 770 beats the 7970 I believe. Not by a huge amount though.
 
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Ok. 1st, for an upgrade from an i5 3570k to the i5 4670k, I'd say no, it isn't worth the cost, but for an out of the box new build, then I would go to the newer processor. As for OCing, the UEFI BiOS makes it easy ( at least on the ASUS boards I have used ). Asrock is under the ASUS umbrella and originally made for mass producers. These days they are a good quality board for a bit less. You have gotten some good suggestions with an Asrock Board. I wouldn't be too concerned with OCing at thos point though, as the Haswells are good performers out of the box.
 
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