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June 16, 2013 4:20:33 PM

Hello everyone! I'm trying to build myself a nice computer. I had one picked out on cyberpowerpc, but my friend informed me I could get what I need for much less. My question is, could you guys put together a pc for me? I need enough to run everything smoothly, and I intend on using this pc for playing Team Fortress 2, and Minecraft at high quality, and recording with FRAPS at high FPS. I also would like to have something that will give me enough memory for storing high quality recordings. It would also be nice if I could have enough power to download and upload things quickly, along with being able to play any other games I'd want to play in the future. Summary: Please put together a pc I can play games with on the highest settings, and record with high FPS. My budget is $1,000. Anything below that, obviously, would be great. Anything above it, as long as it's not above 1,500, is not welcome, but is workable.

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a c 247 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 4:32:47 PM

Are you overclocking?
Do you need a monitor/OS/keyboard/mouse?
Where do you live?
June 16, 2013 4:43:27 PM

realchaos said:
Are you overclocking?
Do you need a monitor/OS/keyboard/mouse?
Where do you live?


Overclocking would be nice.
Don't need a monitor, nor a mouse. I do need an OS, planning to buy a gaming keyboard with any money left over.
I live in Texas.

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a b 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 4:46:13 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($111.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($395.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1023.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 19:45 EDT-0400)
June 16, 2013 4:48:02 PM

realchaos said:
Are you overclocking?
Do you need a monitor/OS/keyboard/mouse?
Where do you live?



Probably some useful information: All I know is overclocking increases the performance of your PC for a short time? Explain some more please.

June 16, 2013 4:56:26 PM

Spydex said:
Hello everyone! I'm trying to build myself a nice computer. I had one picked out on cyberpowerpc, but my friend informed me I could get what I need for much less. My question is, could you guys put together a pc for me? I need enough to run everything smoothly, and I intend on using this pc for playing Team Fortress 2, and Minecraft at high quality, and recording with FRAPS at high FPS. I also would like to have something that will give me enough memory for storing high quality recordings. It would also be nice if I could have enough power to download and upload things quickly, along with being able to play any other games I'd want to play in the future. Summary: Please put together a pc I can play games with on the highest settings, and record with high FPS. My budget is $1,000. Anything below that, obviously, would be great. Anything above it, as long as it's not above 1,500, is not welcome, but is workable.


I have two builds for $700, that can do all that plus some -

AMD -

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134fi

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134fi/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134fi/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.97 @ Outlet PC) Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($100.98 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $685.81(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 21:45 EDT-0400)



Intel -

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134xx

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134xx/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/134xx/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Intel DH61WWB3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Newegg) Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $695.84(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 21:56 EDT-0400)
June 16, 2013 5:16:14 PM

Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?
June 16, 2013 5:31:50 PM

Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.
a b 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 5:54:01 PM

OK, ya have the low end, here's the one for $1500 .... designed for expandability, adding 2nd GFX card in future.

Case - $270 - Corsair 500R Black http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$25 MIR + $35 off w/ promo code EMCYTZT3582, ends 6/13``
PSU - incl. w/ above - Corsair HX850 included with above

MoBo - $412 - ASUS Z87 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl. w/ above - Intel Core i5-4670K Included w/ above and MoBo has built in wireless

RAM - $65 - (2 x 4GB) Muskin CAS 9 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler - $30 - Hyper 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX - $400 - Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce Same

HD - $160 Caviar Black 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $150 - Samsung 840 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Writer - $28 - Asus 24X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

bah....I see coupon expired on case but they run that special every other week or so
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 6:25:16 PM

@JackNaylorPE: I've seen you post nearly the exact same build multiple times. May I ask why? Lots of the things listed are overpriced, such as the dvd writer (easily found for ~$15-17), HDD (1tb HDD is like $60 for blue $90-100 for Black), SSD (You can find a good quality SSD for $120-120), expensive motherboard.

@OP: If you're only planning to play TF2 and minecraft maxed out while streaming, you don't need to waste over $1k.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.58 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $983.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 21:23 EDT-0400)

-Overclockable.
-Has the option to crossfire in the future.
-Hopefully 1tb is enough for all your files.
-Able to run TF2 and minecraft like a breeze. Honestly, this card may be overkill for those games but perhaps you'll like to try something else in the future?
June 16, 2013 6:31:37 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.
While recording? Or not recording?

June 16, 2013 6:42:59 PM

realchaos said:
@JackNaylorPE: I've seen you post nearly the exact same build multiple times. May I ask why? Lots of the things listed are overpriced, such as the dvd writer (easily found for ~$15-17), HDD (1tb HDD is like $60 for blue $90-100 for Black), SSD (You can find a good quality SSD for $120-120), expensive motherboard.

@OP: If you're only planning to play TF2 and minecraft maxed out while streaming, you don't need to waste over $1k.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.58 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $983.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 21:23 EDT-0400)

-Overclockable.
-Has the option to crossfire in the future.
-Hopefully 1tb is enough for all your files.
-Able to run TF2 and minecraft like a breeze. Honestly, this card may be overkill for those games but perhaps you'll like to try something else in the future?
Why is the intel i5 3.4 ghz quad core more than a AMD FX 3.5 ghz six core?

June 16, 2013 6:54:10 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.
June 16, 2013 6:55:50 PM

Spydex said:

Why is the intel i5 3.4 ghz quad core more than a AMD FX 3.5 ghz six core?



Its the intel tax - Intel likes to have an added tax just to make more.
June 16, 2013 7:03:04 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.


I currently have an Asus laptop, four cores, 2.0 ghz, and runs tf2 at normally well over 300 fps, and recording stays at sixty. Now while you may be thinking I'm exaggerating, I'm not (I have screenshots with a netgraph in it). Are you telling me this new desktop, with twice the specs, will run at sixty FPS? Quite frankly, this makes no sense.

June 16, 2013 7:05:24 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.


I currently have an Asus laptop, four cores, 2.0 ghz, and runs tf2 at normally well over 300 fps, and recording stays at sixty. Now while you may be thinking I'm exaggerating, I'm not (I have screenshots with a netgraph in it). Are you telling me this new desktop, with twice the specs, will run at sixty FPS? Quite frankly, this makes no sense.



That was just a guess, there are many configurations out there.
Regardless, my $700 configurations should do really well in anything.
June 16, 2013 7:38:23 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.


I currently have an Asus laptop, four cores, 2.0 ghz, and runs tf2 at normally well over 300 fps, and recording stays at sixty. Now while you may be thinking I'm exaggerating, I'm not (I have screenshots with a netgraph in it). Are you telling me this new desktop, with twice the specs, will run at sixty FPS? Quite frankly, this makes no sense.



That was just a guess, there are many configurations out there.
Regardless, my $700 configurations should do really well in anything.
Lol, not tryint to be rude. This is my current laptop: https://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/G74SX/#specifications . I'm looking for a direct upgrade. This is what I'm thinking of getting, based off of some of your systems: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SpydexThePhantom/saved/1MJ... . Will this do more than enough for me? Will it beat my current laptop? I have plenty of space for games in the 2 TB hard drive, along with an extra 1TB hard drive for my videos. (I can't use the same hard drive, not sure why, but the more memory taken up in the hard drive FRAPS stores it's videos in, the worse my FPS gets when I go to record.) Feedback Please! :D 
June 16, 2013 7:45:53 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.


I currently have an Asus laptop, four cores, 2.0 ghz, and runs tf2 at normally well over 300 fps, and recording stays at sixty. Now while you may be thinking I'm exaggerating, I'm not (I have screenshots with a netgraph in it). Are you telling me this new desktop, with twice the specs, will run at sixty FPS? Quite frankly, this makes no sense.



That was just a guess, there are many configurations out there.
Regardless, my $700 configurations should do really well in anything.
Lol, not tryint to be rude. This is my current laptop: https://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/G74SX/#specifications . I'm looking for a direct upgrade. This is what I'm thinking of getting, based off of some of your systems: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SpydexThePhantom/saved/1MJ... . Will this do more than enough for me? Will it beat my current laptop? I have plenty of space for games in the 2 TB hard drive, along with an extra 1TB hard drive for my videos. (I can't use the same hard drive, not sure why, but the more memory taken up in the hard drive FRAPS stores it's videos in, the worse my FPS gets when I go to record.) Feedback Please! :D 


Ah, understandable, and it will, Desktops always beat laptops in gaming & storage, otherwise, laptops have the upper hand when it comes to portability, and being able to run during a power outage, lol.
I suggest getting a SSD if you can afford it, it makes the computer load 5x faster then normally.
June 16, 2013 7:53:54 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
Thank you guys so much for the replies, my original pick was 1450, and was a TOTAL overshot compared to these. Thanks so much. A few questions, will these fit my needs?


The two I chose will run those games at around 60 FPS on high just fine, though you can go through them and find parts you like better.

While recording? Or not recording?


Fraps is very heavy, and might have a FPS limit of 30, so either 30 or 40 with fraps, depending on any artificial limits added by the software.
Without fraps, 60 FPS or so.


I currently have an Asus laptop, four cores, 2.0 ghz, and runs tf2 at normally well over 300 fps, and recording stays at sixty. Now while you may be thinking I'm exaggerating, I'm not (I have screenshots with a netgraph in it). Are you telling me this new desktop, with twice the specs, will run at sixty FPS? Quite frankly, this makes no sense.



That was just a guess, there are many configurations out there.
Regardless, my $700 configurations should do really well in anything.
Lol, not tryint to be rude. This is my current laptop: https://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/G74SX/#specifications . I'm looking for a direct upgrade. This is what I'm thinking of getting, based off of some of your systems: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SpydexThePhantom/saved/1MJ... . Will this do more than enough for me? Will it beat my current laptop? I have plenty of space for games in the 2 TB hard drive, along with an extra 1TB hard drive for my videos. (I can't use the same hard drive, not sure why, but the more memory taken up in the hard drive FRAPS stores it's videos in, the worse my FPS gets when I go to record.) Feedback Please! :D 


Ah, understandable, and it will, Desktops always beat laptops in gaming & storage, otherwise, laptops have the upper hand when it comes to portability, and being able to run during a power outage, lol.
I suggest getting a SSD if you can afford it, it makes the computer load 5x faster then normally.

Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it. Will this Graphics card work? Is there a better one in my price range?

June 16, 2013 7:59:28 PM

Spydex said:


Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it.



1.Soundcards are built in to the motherboard, so no need to buy one, and they make the sound that you hear though the speakers.
2. SSD = Solid State Disk - Memory based hard drive, basically a larger USB thumb drive, but for the desktop, and are much faster then regular hard drives.
3. It will, no issues.
June 16, 2013 8:07:54 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:


Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it.



1.Soundcards are built in to the motherboard, so no need to buy one, and they make the sound that you hear though the speakers.
2. SSD = Solid State Disk - Memory based hard drive, basically a larger USB thumb drive, but for the desktop, and are much faster then regular hard drives.
3. It will, no issues.

What about the Graphics card? Is it the best in my price range? is it good? i want your opinion. :p 
June 16, 2013 8:15:51 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:


Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it.



1.Soundcards are built in to the motherboard, so no need to buy one, and they make the sound that you hear though the speakers.
2. SSD = Solid State Disk - Memory based hard drive, basically a larger USB thumb drive, but for the desktop, and are much faster then regular hard drives.
3. It will, no issues.

What about the Graphics card? Is it the best in my price range? is it good? i want your opinion. :p 


1.The graphics card is more then fast enough, it will run in excess of 400 Fps, as its nearly the best card from AMD.
2. If you want, you can swap that AMD card for an Nvidia GTX 670 or GTX 770, as they are both as fast, or a bit quicker.

Its personal preference between AMD & Nvidia at this price point.
June 16, 2013 8:19:38 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:


Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it.



1.Soundcards are built in to the motherboard, so no need to buy one, and they make the sound that you hear though the speakers.
2. SSD = Solid State Disk - Memory based hard drive, basically a larger USB thumb drive, but for the desktop, and are much faster then regular hard drives.
3. It will, no issues.

What about the Graphics card? Is it the best in my price range? is it good? i want your opinion. :p 


1.The graphics card is more then fast enough, it will run in excess of 400 Fps, as its nearly the best card from AMD.
2. If you want, you can swap that AMD card for an Nvidia GTX 670 or GTX 770, as they are both as fast, or a bit quicker.

Its personal preference between AMD & Nvidia at this price point.

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)

June 16, 2013 8:23:15 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:


Thank you so much for your help, but I have a few questions. What's a soundcard and do i need one? What's an SSD? The wireless wifi adapter thing I picked out, does it connect to wifi? That's why I got it.


Also, about the SSD. Not sure what loads faster, do you mean the computer? Also I may be able to get an SSD for the hard drive I'd be using mainly for everything but the recordings, but it really depends, if you mean it helps the computer load faster on start up, I could care less about that.

1.Soundcards are built in to the motherboard, so no need to buy one, and they make the sound that you hear though the speakers.
2. SSD = Solid State Disk - Memory based hard drive, basically a larger USB thumb drive, but for the desktop, and are much faster then regular hard drives.
3. It will, no issues.

What about the Graphics card? Is it the best in my price range? is it good? i want your opinion. :p 


1.The graphics card is more then fast enough, it will run in excess of 400 Fps, as its nearly the best card from AMD.
2. If you want, you can swap that AMD card for an Nvidia GTX 670 or GTX 770, as they are both as fast, or a bit quicker.

Its personal preference between AMD & Nvidia at this price point.


June 16, 2013 8:23:44 PM

Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.
June 16, 2013 8:29:32 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

This might be a noob question, but what on earth is EVGA? Also, if you know anything about keyboards, look at the one I selected, unless I mentioned this, I play competitively, so I'm sure you know when the A key doesn't respond, and you get blown up, that can be quite annoying. So is the keyboard reliable? And I must say, you've been an amazing help. Thanks a bunch.
June 16, 2013 8:37:47 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

This might be a noob question, but what on earth is EVGA? Also, if you know anything about keyboards, look at the one I selected, unless I mentioned this, I play competitively, so I'm sure you know when the A key doesn't respond, and you get blown up, that can be quite annoying. So is the keyboard reliable? And I must say, you've been an amazing help. Thanks a bunch.


EVGA is a very well known gaming company, that makes Nvidia graphics cards, especially ones that constantly break world records.
www.evga.com - their website
Razer is also another well known gaming company, so that keyboard shouldn't have any issues.
June 16, 2013 8:40:41 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

The Nvidias are going to be a couple hundred dollars more, and i'm quite happy with the price it's at now. if I went ahead and got the Nvidia, I might as well just go back to my original cyberpower choice, which is something i don't want to do, as saving five hundred bucks is kind of a big deal.
June 16, 2013 8:44:28 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

The Nvidias are going to be a couple hundred dollars more, and i'm quite happy with the price it's at now. if I went ahead and got the Nvidia, I might as well just go back to my original cyberpower choice, which is something i don't want to do, as saving five hundred bucks is kind of a big deal.


Building your own computer is always better then having one made for you by a company, even if the price is high, as part quality is usually higher then what they get.
Even the EVGA GTX 660 Ti is better that AMD card.
June 16, 2013 9:06:40 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

The Nvidias are going to be a couple hundred dollars more, and i'm quite happy with the price it's at now. if I went ahead and got the Nvidia, I might as well just go back to my original cyberpower choice, which is something i don't want to do, as saving five hundred bucks is kind of a big deal.


Building your own computer is always better then having one made for you by a company, even if the price is high, as part quality is usually higher then what they get.
Even the EVGA GTX 660 Ti is better that AMD card.


Ok, just so you understand fully, this is going to be my Christmas gift from my mother. An extra hundred bucks means a lot. If the current card can run what I want efficiently, then that's most likely what I should get. I'll look into the Nvidia card, but unless it's going to make my FPS significantly better, I doubt I'll change it.

June 16, 2013 9:11:36 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

I've always used Nvidia, never used AMD, so we'll have to count the personal preference out. I'll look into the two Nvidias, the only reason I currently have the AMD selected, is because I've read some good stuff about it's cooling, and apparently it can overclock, (don't know much about that.)


Alright, and overclocking is when you need to push the card even harder to play newer & heavier games like battlefield 4, and GTA 5. Right now you are fine. Also, Nvidias can Overclock quite well, if not better, then AMDs.
I reccomend going EVGA for the Nvidia cards, they are a very good company, and support gamers quite well, especially team fortress 2 players.

The Nvidias are going to be a couple hundred dollars more, and i'm quite happy with the price it's at now. if I went ahead and got the Nvidia, I might as well just go back to my original cyberpower choice, which is something i don't want to do, as saving five hundred bucks is kind of a big deal.


Building your own computer is always better then having one made for you by a company, even if the price is high, as part quality is usually higher then what they get.
Even the EVGA GTX 660 Ti is better that AMD card.


Ok, just so you understand fully, this is going to be my Christmas gift from my mother. An extra hundred bucks means a lot. If the current card can run what I want efficiently, then that's most likely what I should get. I'll look into the Nvidia card, but unless it's going to make my FPS significantly better, I doubt I'll change it.



Ah, alright, then the AMD is more then quick enough.
June 16, 2013 9:20:05 PM

You sure? I'm curious as to how it'll work, because i used to get 300+ FPS with my Asus, and now I'm only getting 60 normally, ever since an update. I can't tell if it's my computer, or the new SteamPipe update. So that's annoying. Also, my Asus had this problem before; it won't charge. It was a gift from my uncle, he never had any problems with it. A few months ago, the charger started getting extremely hot, I burned myself once or twice. It eventually started flicking from charging to not charging, until the point where it wouldn't charge at all. I got it fixed, they said it was the port. It started up again a month ago. I don't know what the problem is, do you? I don't do anything different, I leave it plugged in all the time, and rarely shut it off, is all I can think of. Any ideas?
June 16, 2013 9:27:01 PM

Spydex said:
You sure? I'm curious as to how it'll work, because i used to get 300+ FPS with my Asus, and now I'm only getting 60 normally, ever since an update. I can't tell if it's my computer, or the new SteamPipe update. So that's annoying. Also, my Asus had this problem before; it won't charge. It was a gift from my uncle, he never had any problems with it. A few months ago, the charger started getting extremely hot, I burned myself once or twice. It eventually started flicking from charging to not charging, until the point where it wouldn't charge at all. I got it fixed, they said it was the port. It started up again a month ago. I don't know what the problem is, do you? I don't do anything different, I leave it plugged in all the time, and rarely shut it off, is all I can think of. Any ideas?


1. Desktops are naturally more powerful then laptops in every way, so it should run better.
2. If anything, its vsync (a graphics card feature) locking your FPS to the maximum of what your screen can support, which would be 60.
3. I would talk to the company again, or stop by a local computer shop about that, it could be a design defect or dust build up.
June 16, 2013 9:37:04 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
You sure? I'm curious as to how it'll work, because i used to get 300+ FPS with my Asus, and now I'm only getting 60 normally, ever since an update. I can't tell if it's my computer, or the new SteamPipe update. So that's annoying. Also, my Asus had this problem before; it won't charge. It was a gift from my uncle, he never had any problems with it. A few months ago, the charger started getting extremely hot, I burned myself once or twice. It eventually started flicking from charging to not charging, until the point where it wouldn't charge at all. I got it fixed, they said it was the port. It started up again a month ago. I don't know what the problem is, do you? I don't do anything different, I leave it plugged in all the time, and rarely shut it off, is all I can think of. Any ideas?



1. Desktops are naturally more powerful then laptops in every way, so it should run better.
2. If anything, its vsync (a graphics card feature) locking your FPS to the maximum of what your screen can support, which would be 60.
3. I would talk to the company again, or stop by a local computer shop about that, it could be a design defect or dust build up.


Yikes. Now I'm worried about my screen. This is my monitor: http://bestlcdtvreview.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/sylvani...
June 16, 2013 9:48:13 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
You sure? I'm curious as to how it'll work, because i used to get 300+ FPS with my Asus, and now I'm only getting 60 normally, ever since an update. I can't tell if it's my computer, or the new SteamPipe update. So that's annoying. Also, my Asus had this problem before; it won't charge. It was a gift from my uncle, he never had any problems with it. A few months ago, the charger started getting extremely hot, I burned myself once or twice. It eventually started flicking from charging to not charging, until the point where it wouldn't charge at all. I got it fixed, they said it was the port. It started up again a month ago. I don't know what the problem is, do you? I don't do anything different, I leave it plugged in all the time, and rarely shut it off, is all I can think of. Any ideas?



1. Desktops are naturally more powerful then laptops in every way, so it should run better.
2. If anything, its vsync (a graphics card feature) locking your FPS to the maximum of what your screen can support, which would be 60.
3. I would talk to the company again, or stop by a local computer shop about that, it could be a design defect or dust build up.


Yikes. Now I'm worried about my screen. This is my monitor: http://bestlcdtvreview.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/sylvani...


60Hz = 60 FPS, there aren't many 120 FPS monitors available, 300 FPS isn't an option when it comes to screens.
I would look up on YouTube on how to disable it for your graphics card.
June 16, 2013 9:54:39 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
You sure? I'm curious as to how it'll work, because i used to get 300+ FPS with my Asus, and now I'm only getting 60 normally, ever since an update. I can't tell if it's my computer, or the new SteamPipe update. So that's annoying. Also, my Asus had this problem before; it won't charge. It was a gift from my uncle, he never had any problems with it. A few months ago, the charger started getting extremely hot, I burned myself once or twice. It eventually started flicking from charging to not charging, until the point where it wouldn't charge at all. I got it fixed, they said it was the port. It started up again a month ago. I don't know what the problem is, do you? I don't do anything different, I leave it plugged in all the time, and rarely shut it off, is all I can think of. Any ideas?



1. Desktops are naturally more powerful then laptops in every way, so it should run better.
2. If anything, its vsync (a graphics card feature) locking your FPS to the maximum of what your screen can support, which would be 60.
3. I would talk to the company again, or stop by a local computer shop about that, it could be a design defect or dust build up.


Yikes. Now I'm worried about my screen. This is my monitor: http://bestlcdtvreview.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/sylvani...


60Hz = 60 FPS, there aren't many 120 FPS monitors available, 300 FPS isn't an option when it comes to screens.
I would look up on YouTube on how to disable it for your graphics card.


Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:

June 16, 2013 10:01:57 PM

Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.
June 16, 2013 10:08:23 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.


From what I've gathered, this is what's going to happen. If I disable VSync, I'll still have some tearing of frames? Let me just make this simple: Am I going to experience problems at all? If I do, will disabling VSync solve it?
June 16, 2013 10:11:09 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.


From what I've gathered, this is what's going to happen. If I disable VSync, I'll still have some tearing of frames? Let me just make this simple: Am I going to experience problems at all? If I do, will disabling VSync solve it?


1.Tearing never happens, so no issues at all.
2. what graphics card do you have?
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 10:14:57 PM

Looking at your build, Spydex, everything looks fine but you can make a few changes:
-You would be better getting a 970 chipset board as it is newer and overclocks better. Also, you're getting a mid-tower case so why not a regular ATX board: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20
-I would change the psu. Corsair's CX lineup are decent at best. They're more meant for budget builds and I would avoid them at a budget over $400. Here's a much more reliable and higher quality psu: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
-I would try to invest a little bit more into the cpu cooler to get the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or at least the Hyper 212 plus. It's not much more expensive but will provide better performance.
-I can tell you right now that the GTX 770 is much faster than the Radeon HD 7870, but of course it is double the price.

To clarify things a bit here, there really is no point of getting over 60fps if your monitor is the standard 60hz. The stronger gpus are meant to handle the more graphical games like Crysis 3 and such. Honestly if you're only playing TF2 and Minecraft, a $100 gpu like the 7770ghz edition will be more than enough.
June 16, 2013 10:20:20 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.


From what I've gathered, this is what's going to happen. If I disable VSync, I'll still have some tearing of frames? Let me just make this simple: Am I going to experience problems at all? If I do, will disabling VSync solve it?


1.Tearing never happens, so no issues at all.
2. what graphics card do you have?

Currently? Or the one I've chosen?

June 16, 2013 10:22:05 PM

Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.


From what I've gathered, this is what's going to happen. If I disable VSync, I'll still have some tearing of frames? Let me just make this simple: Am I going to experience problems at all? If I do, will disabling VSync solve it?


1.Tearing never happens, so no issues at all.
2. what graphics card do you have?

Currently? Or the one I've chosen?


The one you said was locked to 60.
June 16, 2013 10:32:07 PM

DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:
DComander1x said:
Spydex said:

Wait, so it's impossible for me to go over 60 FPS? So basically the graphics card is useless? I should get a cheaper one?D:


Quote:
How VSync works, and why people loathe it

Read that link - it should explain what vsync is and how to disable it.


From what I've gathered, this is what's going to happen. If I disable VSync, I'll still have some tearing of frames? Let me just make this simple: Am I going to experience problems at all? If I do, will disabling VSync solve it?


1.Tearing never happens, so no issues at all.
2. what graphics card do you have?

Currently? Or the one I've chosen?


The one you said was locked to 60.

I never said it was locked to sixty, i said it decreased to sixty. It fluctuates.

June 16, 2013 10:37:55 PM

Spydex said:

I never said it was locked to sixty, i said it decreased to sixty. It fluctuates.


Oh, then it could of been game graphics update then, that could be pushing the system harder.
I would still check the graphics settings for your card and for the game and see what works best.
June 16, 2013 10:38:27 PM

realchaos said:
Looking at your build, Spydex, everything looks fine but you can make a few changes:
-You would be better getting a 970 chipset board as it is newer and overclocks better. Also, you're getting a mid-tower case so why not a regular ATX board: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97r20
-I would change the psu. Corsair's CX lineup are decent at best. They're more meant for budget builds and I would avoid them at a budget over $400. Here's a much more reliable and higher quality psu: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
-I would try to invest a little bit more into the cpu cooler to get the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or at least the Hyper 212 plus. It's not much more expensive but will provide better performance.
-I can tell you right now that the GTX 770 is much faster than the Radeon HD 7870, but of course it is double the price.

To clarify things a bit here, there really is no point of getting over 60fps if your monitor is the standard 60hz. The stronger gpus are meant to handle the more graphical games like Crysis 3 and such. Honestly if you're only playing TF2 and Minecraft, a $100 gpu like the 7770ghz edition will be more than enough.


I did all that you suggested, except for lowering the graphics card. I believe if I get any extra money for Christmas from my family, I'll get the Nvidia GTX 770 instead of the AMD.

a c 247 4 Gaming
June 16, 2013 11:03:19 PM

You don't need 16gb of ram. Stick with 2x4gb.
What's the 2tb storage for? You can get a 3tb for under $150.
June 17, 2013 8:12:58 AM

realchaos said:
You don't need 16gb of ram. Stick with 2x4gb.
What's the 2tb storage for? You can get a 3tb for under $150.


The extra hard drive is for my recordings, and the 2Tb one is for everything else. Why do I need an extra hard drive? As I stated above; For some reason, while recording with FRAPS, the more memory used up in the hard drive you save your movies to, the more your FPS drops while recording. Don't ask why, it just does. As for the RAM, better safe than sorry.

a c 247 4 Gaming
June 17, 2013 10:24:29 AM

If the FRAPs thing is true, then you can keep the two HDDs. However, the RAM is stil unnecessary. Games doesn't even use all the 8gb of ram.
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