Not sure if its Mobo or RAM problem.
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 5:17:02 PM
Hi!, 3 days ago I built my very first PC, using this build (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15tmJ) it was all running great but then yesterday I started encountering multiple BSODs that says Memory_Mangement(this is the most common one), IRQL_Not_less_or_EQUAL(only appeared once) and Page fault in non paged area(only appeared once.) What I did was I reformatted my HDD and while installing the OS, during the "windows is expanding" part to be exact I keep on encountering a problem stating that the files are corrupt or missing. Then I did some research and I found out that Removing one of the RAM sticks would do the trick and it actually did. Right after the installation of OS, I put the second stick back on and it started having BSODs to the point that I can only use my pc for like 5 mins at the most before the BSOD occur. So I removed one of the sticks again and to my surprise it aint having BSOD and as of now its been running for about an hour or so without any problem. I am sorry if this is a stupid question but which one do you guys think is the problem, my mobo's RAM slot or the actual RAM card? pls help me. any help is greatly appreciated and thank you in advance!
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 5:54:12 PM
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 6:09:11 PM
I am running one stick right now for 1866MHz with the timing of 9-10-9-28. I used memtest for one stick and no errors (I ran it for an hour.) The thing is if i used both stick and any MHz My computer would end up having BSODs or it will fail to reboot. Is it the because of a bad ram or a failing RAM slot on my MOBO? And again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me.
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 6:29:01 PM
I tried doing that but my mobo is only allowing me to pick either 1.5v 1.65v or 1.75v. I tried 1.5v and 1.65v and [auto] settings. I am still ending up with a BSOD or some kind of error. However, as of now I am using one stick using the [auto] settings and it seems to be running fine. Its so bizarre that if I use one stick I dont have any problem. But when I am using both stick Problems will occer ugh D:
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Base voltage should be fine at 1.5, try with the sticks at 1600, 2T or 2N depends on whether your mobo uses the N or T designator, base timings 8-9-8-28 (we'll look at 1866 once stable here), and raise the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 then give it a try
Spooky2th
Here's an article I wrote on QVLs or 'compatibility lists' , might come in handy:
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10566
Spooky2th
Here's an article I wrote on QVLs or 'compatibility lists' , might come in handy:
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10566
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XMP can ring alarm bells for AMD, they are stepping into it slowly and in all seriousness can't be expected to be fully up to speed on it, as the Intel mobo makers even sort of do it on a piece rate basis from 1866 on up - sort of described in the article I wrote - also one of the reasons I find it hilarious when I see an AMD mobo (non-FM) that states it will run 2400 sets or whatever on it....AMD doesn have a single CPU (not APU) that will run 2400 sticks (except an extremely rare Gem of a CPU off the assembly line - they test sets of DRAM (generally on AMD) at 1333 (some even at 1066)
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 7:18:14 PM
I'll try to be clearer and more specific
the CR shouls appear as an option probably labeled as Command Rate , or Command Timing, or something to that effect, if it's an available option it should be the only one with a 1T, 2T, 1N or 2N setting (used to be AMD used the N designator and Intel used the T, these days it depends on the programming team that handles the BIOS, regardless of designator should be 2 number wise.
On the voltage I think (hope you are looking at the DRAM voltage, which should be 1.5
The voltage I'm talking about is normally labeled CPU/NB and am suggesting setting it to 1.25, if it's not an available voltage it may be labeled something like IMC voltage, if any doubt can you list available voltages - this is the voltage that controls th MC (memory controller
the CR shouls appear as an option probably labeled as Command Rate , or Command Timing, or something to that effect, if it's an available option it should be the only one with a 1T, 2T, 1N or 2N setting (used to be AMD used the N designator and Intel used the T, these days it depends on the programming team that handles the BIOS, regardless of designator should be 2 number wise.
On the voltage I think (hope you are looking at the DRAM voltage, which should be 1.5
The voltage I'm talking about is normally labeled CPU/NB and am suggesting setting it to 1.25, if it's not an available voltage it may be labeled something like IMC voltage, if any doubt can you list available voltages - this is the voltage that controls th MC (memory controller
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 8:09:49 PM
Tradesman1 said:
I'll try to be clearer and more specificthe CR shouls appear as an option probably labeled as Command Rate , or Command Timing, or something to that effect, if it's an available option it should be the only one with a 1T, 2T, 1N or 2N setting (used to be AMD used the N designator and Intel used the T, these days it depends on the programming team that handles the BIOS, regardless of designator should be 2 number wise.
On the voltage I think (hope you are looking at the DRAM voltage, which should be 1.5
The voltage I'm talking about is normally labeled CPU/NB and am suggesting setting it to 1.25, if it's not an available voltage it may be labeled something like IMC voltage, if any doubt can you list available voltages - this is the voltage that controls th MC (memory controller
I am really sorry and I appreciate the patience. I took a photo of my BIOS settings here are the settings labeled "performance"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/199/7yfz.jpg/<-- this is the photo for the CPU settings ( i still cant find the voltage thingy im so sorry im dumb
)http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/xnfw.jpg/ <---here is the closest thing that I can find that match the "timing" that you are talking about. (is this the right one? i dont see any 2T)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/kkal.jpg/<---here is the settings under the "performance" tab. The photo above this is found in the "dram timing configuration"
Thank you so much!
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 8:14:11 PM
papercut03
June 16, 2013 8:31:09 PM
Pulled your manual down (no offense to you -
- it stinks) anyway in the Performance menu (page 26 of manual) Under DRAM timing Mode - there's an option they call 2TCMD that's your CR (command Rate) and it does default to 1T (as I suspected) - change it to 2T
And that might take care of all - try that, if not I'll try and find the voltages
- it stinks) anyway in the Performance menu (page 26 of manual) Under DRAM timing Mode - there's an option they call 2TCMD that's your CR (command Rate) and it does default to 1T (as I suspected) - change it to 2TAnd that might take care of all - try that, if not I'll try and find the voltages
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 9:16:44 PM
papercut03
June 16, 2013 9:39:25 PM
papercut03
June 16, 2013 10:28:38 PM
Tradesman1 said:
Let me know, will be up and out early in the AM but back in the afternoon, have to pull cable for a networkIts a no GO
still having BSOD. What I did was, from the selection of DCT1, DCT0 and BOTH, I picked DCT0 since because it was originally set to AUTO and if AUTO is selected, the option of picking between 1t/2t is unavailable. Pls help
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papercut03
June 16, 2013 10:47:31 PM
papercut03
June 17, 2013 1:40:32 AM
papercut03
June 17, 2013 2:46:03 PM
UPDATE: Tried playing with ram timings (its kinda fun) but still no go. D: as for the DRAM Voltage I am not sure why but I cannot enter it manually, its only allowing me to pick between Auto,1.65, 1.75 (there are others but its like around 1.4v but there is no 1.50V D
and for the CPU voltage I dont know the "side effects" of messing with CPU voltage so I am knda scared to change its voltage.
and for the CPU voltage I dont know the "side effects" of messing with CPU voltage so I am knda scared to change its voltage.
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