came for advice 1 year ago. now want another pc pls help again :D

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

So just over a year ago maybe 2 now i came hre for advice and got and help.

So i come back again to make another build and hopefully will get the same help.

The pc is for gaming and running multiple programs. I would like it to last 2- 3 years. the last pc is fine i guess i caught a bug and just like building better pc's ll

budget £600-700

I have been out of the loop for a while so not sure whats current and what good value right now so im flying blind.

I will need everything as this pc will be sold to a family member.

So i need

OS - win 7

Case - ?

RAM - 16gb may be overkill but i like the sound of it. Im open to 8gb though

HDD and SDD if possible one for os the other for storage unless prices are good and i can get like a 240gb sdd or something

I saw a crucial 256gb for £125
http://www.ebuyer.com/386372-crucial-256gb-v4-ssd-ct256v4ssd2

Graphics something good but not to expensive (this and cpu will probably be the most expensive)

CPU last time I was here I believe ivybridge was about to launch they any good?

PSU 650 watt should do it

after market cpu cooler

Case probably mid tower with additional fans

sites id prefer ebuyer or aria as ive used them and trust them

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

do you need a optical drive?

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

here you go http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/17jEx couldent quit make the budget or squeez everythign in but here is the closest i came

DragonChase · Jun 17, 2013

Gigabyte z87 HD3 - 111 Euro
Haswell i5 4670 - 212 Euro
Corsair Vengeance 9-9-9-24 1600mhz 8Gb - 67 Euro
PSU - 70 Euro
SSD samsung 840 pro 128GB - 120 Euro
Seagate 1TB - 58 Euro
Radeon 7950 - 280 Euro
Case ATX - 50 Euro
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Total: 968 Euro
In pound: 820 Pounds.

This is the recommended system for your budget, would go for what i just described.

jinayhvora · Jun 17, 2013

here you go http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/17jE3

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

DragonChase :

pver budget sorry i dont mind going over bit but this is alot over although i do like the graphics card

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

jinayhvora :

nice build but the monitor and keyboard arent in price so £100 could be spent elsewhere like

i5 4670k

and better graphics

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

legokill101 :

nice build not sure i like the cpu i would rather have 3.4-3.5ghz like the 4670k

also maybe it would be better to have 1 storage ssd at 256 gb crucial and corsair do 1 for around £125 not usre if thats quite enough though i definately like your solution though to the storage 1 of each is probably best that way pc and main games load fast whilst pics and vids etc can go on the HDD

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

there is also no room for a faster processor unless your willing to sacrifice the potnetion to overclock or run crossfire/sli

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

i wont be over clocking at all

also is there a massive difference between the 7870 and 7950

or would a gtx 650ti or 660 be better

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

ok i did this

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/17kh3

I might remove the SSD and add more graphics and CPU power though. Any 1 got an SSD that would advise on keeping or removing it?

Also can u see anywhere where i can save money without loosing quality ( cheap doesn't always mean better i find)

may change the cpu for a 3350p as it seems ok but not really sure if i should or not. the extra money would go into graphics. is this advisable? should the grahpihcs be a 7850-70 / 660 / or saved money for a 7950?

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

its acualy a 7870xt which is faster then a 660 link http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-XT-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

its acualy a 7870xt which is faster then a 660 link http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-XT-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

its acualy a 7870xt which is faster then a 660 link http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-XT-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

its acualy a 7870xt which is faster then a 660 link http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-XT-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

AS bwith all budgets they go up lol. mine is NOW £800 but that is absolute max.

ok this is what i got from everyones ideas.

ebuyer build

Coolermaster K350 Case and Elite 500W PSU Bundle £52.28
http://www.ebuyer.com/442064-coolermaster-k350-and-elite-500w-psu-rc-k350-kwp500-n2

Intel Core i5-4570 3.20GHz Socket 1150 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor £160
http://www.ebuyer.com/467680-cpu-core-i5-4570-3-20ghz-lga1150-box-bx80646i54570

or Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor £180.

Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard £71.80
http://www.ebuyer.com/386271-gigabyte-ga-z77-ds3h-socket-1155-vga-dvi-hdmi-7-1-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z77-ds3h

Lg Internal 24x Bulk Dvdrw - OEM $14.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/411747-lg-internal-24x-bulk-dvdrw-gh24ns95

Crucial 128GB V4 SSD £86.89
http://www.ebuyer.com/386369-crucial-128gb-v4-ssd-ct128v4ssd2

Seagate 1TB Barracuda Internal Hard Drive - OEM £50
http://www.ebuyer.com/319639-seagate-1tb-barracuda-internal-hard-drive-oem-st1000dm003

XFX HD 7950 DD 3GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card With FREE Never Settle Reloaded download coupon £229
http://www.ebuyer.com/434549-xfx-hd-7950-dd-3gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-mini-displayport-pci-e-fx-795a-tdjc

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 £69
http://www.ebuyer.com/259863-microsoft-windows-7-home-premium-w-sp1-licence-and-media-1-gfc-02050

Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Sport Memory £45
http://www.ebuyer.com/342352-crucial-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-ballistix-sport-memory-bls2cp4g3d1609ds1s00ceu

£771

aria build
Intel Core i5-4570 3.20GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £ 128.99
XFX Double D Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 Graphics Card [FX-795A-TDJC] + 4 FREE GAMES!£ 183.32
Cooler Master K350 Black Midi Tower Window Gaming Case £ 24.99
430W Corsair Builder Series CX430M 80PLUS Bronze Modular Power Supply £ 34.09
GIGABYTE GA-Z77-DS3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) ATX Motherboard £ 57.19
Samsung 224BB 24x DVD Re-Writer - SATA - Black - OEM £ 11.51
120GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA 6GB/s (SATA-III) Solid State Drive £ 59.99
1TB Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 3.5" SATA III Hard Drive - HDD £ 37.49
8GB (2x4GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Dual Channel Kit £ 47.49
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit DVD - OEM £ 57.99
Total £787.45

same build on ccl computers is £747 but with scandisk 128gb ssd and gigabyte z68ap-d3 mobo
both totals include delivery.

not sure if the mobos are good. is cpu best for money or is it worth maxing out budget to get better 1?

overall the prices are fairly close. if i could save a bit somewhere that would be great. i definitely want the 7950 unless there's a better one for the price.

what are peoples thoughts did i do ok? where could things be changed and improved for same or lower price as this really is the top end of my budget and really i wanted to include 2 extra fans in my build.
i found its better to go to one site as with delivery costs from multiple sites the price is never the same as on pcpartspick

what about cpu thats where im a bit stuck. hyper threading wopuld be nice but i dont think the chips i looked at 3570k and 4570 feature it

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

akkk never ever ever ever EVER use the bundeld psu uless its sfx one that you have to they are often crap geta cx500 and just get it from both whicher is the lowest price

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

also hyper threading is not worth it unless your doing photoshop autocad ect

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

oh ok cool so for £800 (without PSU case combo it will be close to this) would you change anything to this? like any 1 i want to squeeze the most out of the budget

and u think the I5 3570k is alot better than the I5 4750?

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

only if your willing to overclock then yes but otherwise no

peter12 · Jun 17, 2013

so u think the extra speed isnt worth it for £20, u would take the 4750?

what about the 4670k or xeon e3-1240?

legokill101 · Jun 17, 2013

i woudl take the 3570k assuming your going to goverclock and a 4670k is worth it but your alreay outside your budget

DragonChase · Jun 19, 2013

peter12 :

I like your build but heres this, go for socket 1150 and haswell and make sure your psu is haswell compatible, got a corsair cx-750.
Why go for older socket, if youd need juice 5 years later you could add a 6-8 Core, 6-8 core haswell is expected in 2014 and should fit the 1150 socket.

Combined with a nice motherboard supporting both sli and crossfire, you could add another 7950 when the prices will go down.

Also the 7950 Vapor-x OC 3gb boost owns, normally people hate the boost, but for me when overclocking its just nice having dual bios. (it has a manual button on the videocard to turn on boost).
And its a very cool card and lower priced then the XFX.

Remember, haswell just 10 bux more maybe.

came for advice 1 year ago. now want another pc pls help again :D

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