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June 17, 2013 9:29:18 PM

Hello everyone,

So, I have decided to build a computer so that I have a bit of experience assembling them. Here is my build so far:

CPU: Intel i5 3570k
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-116-5...

GPU: GTX 670
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-127-6...

MOBO: ASRock Z77 E6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Corsair 8gb 1333
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD: WD Black 1tb 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-136-5...

Optical: Asus DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=27-135-...

Case: Xion Xion ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


So, my questions are as followed:

-Is this system compatible?
-Does everything fit in the case?
-How much wattage does the power supply need? (Prefer a link)
-What type of fan will fit the case? (Prefer a link, I don't know much about fans)
-Is the CPU/GPU/MOBO bottlenecking one another?
-Is there a way to get a combo deal on newegg?

and an uber nooby question, but will the case support all the ports and other stuff on the motherboard?

All help is much appreciate.

Thanks,
Oliver


EDIT: If some pro computer builder can give me suggestions as well, that would be appreciate a lot.

I'm surprised this setup makes the computer sit around $1k, because I've always though the i5/gtx 600s were the middle of the line models, and that 1k could get a high end model computer, but maybe i'm wrong.

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June 17, 2013 9:48:41 PM

1) Yeah everything is compatible.
2) Yeah everything fits in as well.
3) 600W approx to ensure future upgrades don't require you to change PSU again.
4) Any good cooler is good enough -

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-...

5) Nopes. Motherboard does not bottleneck anything, CPU is very strong, GPU is not bottlenecking.
6) No idea here, but I can help you out with making a better system than this.
7) Yeah it would support.
8) That would get you a system around this and no it is not lower end by any means. Your CPU equally matches the best of i7 out there. Card is also strong.

Check this build out mate, I am sure this is better than yours -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($252.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $968.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 00:47 EDT-0400)

Everything is from Newegg and many combos got applied here.
Overall system is faster than your due to a better and newer CPU, a faster video card (on stock, if overclocked, much faster with new drivers) and a better PSU as well.

I have seen many people investing in an expensive motherboard for some reason. I don't know why. Its not a good idea to buy a high end motherboard and cut out on other things. This mobo is reasonable and is quite strong for OC too.

This one makes up for a better choice than your system.
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June 17, 2013 9:59:37 PM

Chris Kennedy said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/purpletalon/saved/1Nag

just designed this reasonable build for a college student friend of mine you should check ito ut


There is ALOT wrong with this build.

-Motherboard has LAN built in, drop the LAN card.
-Drop the cheap ass sound card. Motherboard has better onboard sound.
-2 sets of RAM. 8gb is plenty. No point to run 2 different kits.
-That CPU cooler comes with good thermal paste.
-For a $1200 it should have a much better GPU.
-Those speakers are worse than anything.
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June 17, 2013 10:17:09 PM

tiny voices said:
Chris Kennedy said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/purpletalon/saved/1Nag

just designed this reasonable build for a college student friend of mine you should check ito ut


There is ALOT wrong with this build.

-Motherboard has LAN built in, drop the LAN card.
-Drop the cheap ass sound card. Motherboard has better onboard sound.
-2 sets of RAM. 8gb is plenty. No point to run 2 different kits.
-That CPU cooler comes with good thermal paste.
-For a $1200 it should have a much better GPU.
-Those speakers are worse than anything.


+1 ^

@OP - You should rather go for my build. there is no need for all those things which are not needed. I also don't find motherboard good enough. ASRock makes one of the most reliable motherboards out there and they are durable enough to support the best of overclocking.

This one is simply not worth it by any means.
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June 17, 2013 10:17:20 PM

lol, oh, wrong fucking link omg
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June 17, 2013 10:17:56 PM

and thanks for the tips the 1200 was my rig design
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June 17, 2013 10:22:49 PM

This one too mate. Why are you going for 1st Gen i5 when there is 4th Gen already.

Not satisfied by this as CPU and card both are very very weak. He won't be able to play newer titles properly with the rig.
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June 17, 2013 10:26:44 PM

dude, cpu may be weaker, but gpu is totally strong enough.

ITS 4 FUCKING GB no game uses taht much
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June 17, 2013 10:27:48 PM

oh yeah, he has 700 bucks no more, and i couldnt get a better processor in there
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June 17, 2013 10:31:00 PM

A GPU is never rated by its VRAM. Anything over 3 GB is overkill for single monitor setup.
Also, the GPU is very weak and its processing power ends before it utilizing more than 1 GB. GTX 640 is one of the low end video cards easily outperformed by a 1 - 2 GB GTX 650 Ti BOOST, let alone a HD 7950.

7950 is light years ahead of 640 even if you throw in another 4 GB to it. It won't make a difference.

Your posts show you have very less information regarding video cards and I would like to advise the OP to be cautious with your advises.

Edit - Its 1K not 700$ (his budget).
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June 17, 2013 10:32:44 PM

dude, what card and cpu can i get to fit the 700 buck budget please
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June 17, 2013 10:33:10 PM

im talking about another guy
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June 17, 2013 10:40:33 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $700.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 01:40 EDT-0400)

Way faster than your configuration for that budget.
7870 XT is much better than GTX 640. Same for CPU
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June 17, 2013 10:43:03 PM

really, he said no amd, no offense, i have that cpu right now and its alright.
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June 17, 2013 10:45:14 PM

He can not get a better system than this. I would recommend this build, rest depends on your friend.
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June 17, 2013 10:46:36 PM

frack, i dont like amd, he dont like amd but if thats what its come to then so be itLOL
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June 17, 2013 10:51:28 PM

Yeah that is much better.
In this build, cut out the network adapter (its on motherboard already) and the 2 x 4 GB RAM Module.
Use the saved $100 on Radeon HD 7870 XT instead.
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June 17, 2013 11:03:32 PM

my new favorite dude, he save me and my friend 30 bucks for a pc taht will rock and roll
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June 17, 2013 11:09:17 PM

Chris Kennedy said:
my new favorite dude, he save me and my friend 30 bucks for a pc taht will rock and roll


Who? If that is for me, that should be dudette. :) 
Oh well, you can use the remaining $30 for 1 TB HDD instead of 320 GB too if you want.

I am referring to Seagate Barracuda 1 TB.
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June 18, 2013 6:33:24 AM



Drop the terrible CPU cooler. The stock cooler is better.
Drop that terrible PSU. Get a 500w unit from Antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic.
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June 18, 2013 8:18:56 AM

luckiest charm said:
1) Yeah everything is compatible.
2) Yeah everything fits in as well.
3) 600W approx to ensure future upgrades don't require you to change PSU again.
4) Any good cooler is good enough -

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-...

5) Nopes. Motherboard does not bottleneck anything, CPU is very strong, GPU is not bottlenecking.
6) No idea here, but I can help you out with making a better system than this.
7) Yeah it would support.
8) That would get you a system around this and no it is not lower end by any means. Your CPU equally matches the best of i7 out there. Card is also strong.

Check this build out mate, I am sure this is better than yours -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($252.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $968.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 00:47 EDT-0400)

Everything is from Newegg and many combos got applied here.
Overall system is faster than your due to a better and newer CPU, a faster video card (on stock, if overclocked, much faster with new drivers) and a better PSU as well.

I have seen many people investing in an expensive motherboard for some reason. I don't know why. Its not a good idea to buy a high end motherboard and cut out on other things. This mobo is reasonable and is quite strong for OC too.

This one makes up for a better choice than your system.


Oh wow this thread got a bit crazy when I went to sleep :p 

Anyhow, I've done a bit of research on the build you suggested and it looks like most of the individual parts are better than the ones I have on my build for cheaper as well. However, in my opinion (Not general ruling and whatnot), I would still prefer gtx 670's power efficiency as well as the physX. So I was wondering if the GTX 670 could be applied to that build?
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June 18, 2013 8:22:05 AM

Yes you could use a gtx670 in that build no problem.

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June 18, 2013 8:36:13 AM

tiny voices said:
Yes you could use a gtx670 in that build no problem.



Ok thanks for the fast reply!


Come to think of it now, I may get a gtx 770 instead. Main concern however is that the wattage doesn't work, and that I haven't done enough research. It seems like a good performance boost for that extra 50$
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June 18, 2013 9:35:35 AM

GTX 770 = Factory Overclocked GTX 680.
That is much faster than 670 by all means.

You should rather grab a GTX 770 and it would be more than enough for your gaming needs.
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June 18, 2013 10:11:59 AM

luckiest charm said:
GTX 770 = Factory Overclocked GTX 680.
That is much faster than 670 by all means.

You should rather grab a GTX 770 and it would be more than enough for your gaming needs.


I don't think the 50 jump is unreasonable, though the build price is for US, guess companies hate shipping to CAN :( 
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June 18, 2013 10:17:07 AM

If that is too high on your budget you can always go for 670. By no means I am saying GTX 670 is weaker. Its also a pretty strong card.
I have HD 6850 and I get good frame rates in whatever game I play at mid - high settings, that card should get much better than mine.
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