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June 18, 2013 4:14:52 AM

Hi everyone! i've been reading posts about high end pc's and i think i have settled in an option (im from greece so if you want to suggest me something just write it!no links) also my budget is around 450 euros which is 670 dollars

psu: nod psu 003
box: i have a old one that takes only one fan
cpu:amd fx 8350 (no intel plz)
gpu:nvidia gtx 650
ram:8gb dual channel g.skill ram
storage:a 320gb sata 2 hard disk
mobo:asus M5A78L LE (ATX)


i dont need a monitor or peripherals... i will upgrade ONLY my cpu mobo and graphics card! thanks in advice

(edit: no overclocking at all)

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June 18, 2013 4:26:58 AM

I think you can skimp down on your processor and go for.

FX8320

And change the graphic card to GTX 660 or even ATI 7870 series
Motherboard will do since it's ASUS and u don't wan to change anything else so just make sure your
power supply is good enough.
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June 18, 2013 4:33:14 AM

i want to play crysis 3 on high settings will i be able to do it with this card?its kind of difficult to go to a gtx660 cause its like 90 euros more expensive here?(why not go for the 8350?)
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June 18, 2013 5:11:20 AM

giannis808 said:
i want to play crysis 3 on high settings will i be able to do it with this card?its kind of difficult to go to a gtx660 cause its like 90 euros more expensive here?(why not go for the 8350?)


Nothing wrong with FX8350 it's a damn fine peice of processor one i will be getting my self. However it is better to have HIGHER graphic card than HIGHER processor. So my idea was to slim down the processor to FX8320 save a few euro and than invest into a better card. Also high on crysis 3 with GTX650.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-...

Look at here
Medium GTX650 TI <---- 650TI is better version of 650. And it can barely pull of 30 FPS on medium. The only one competitive with good display is 7850+. If you can score 7850 and than overclock it abit that would be great.
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June 18, 2013 5:18:06 AM

Shallowmist said:
giannis808 said:
i want to play crysis 3 on high settings will i be able to do it with this card?its kind of difficult to go to a gtx660 cause its like 90 euros more expensive here?(why not go for the 8350?)


Nothing wrong with FX8350 it's a damn fine peice of processor one i will be getting my self. However it is better to have HIGHER graphic card than HIGHER processor. So my idea was to slim down the processor to FX8320 save a few euro and than invest into a better card. Also high on crysis 3 with GTX650.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-...

Look at here
Medium GTX650 TI <---- 650TI is better version of 650. And it can barely pull of 30 FPS on medium. The only one competitive with good display is 7850+. If you can score 7850 and than overclock it abit that would be great.



well ill think of it about getting the 650 ti(are these fps for single ot multiplayer?) (i will only play single) also i want to ask if its worth it spendind 30 more euros in getting 8350 from 8320... i cant actually make a decision
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June 18, 2013 5:29:05 AM

giannis808 said:
Shallowmist said:
giannis808 said:
i want to play crysis 3 on high settings will i be able to do it with this card?its kind of difficult to go to a gtx660 cause its like 90 euros more expensive here?(why not go for the 8350?)


Nothing wrong with FX8350 it's a damn fine peice of processor one i will be getting my self. However it is better to have HIGHER graphic card than HIGHER processor. So my idea was to slim down the processor to FX8320 save a few euro and than invest into a better card. Also high on crysis 3 with GTX650.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-...

Look at here
Medium GTX650 TI <---- 650TI is better version of 650. And it can barely pull of 30 FPS on medium. The only one competitive with good display is 7850+. If you can score 7850 and than overclock it abit that would be great.



well ill think of it about getting the 650 ti(are these fps for single ot multiplayer?) (i will only play single) also i want to ask if its worth it spendind 30 more euros in getting 8350 from 8320... i cant actually make a decision


Some say it's worth it some say it isn't. My opinion is that 8320 is slightly underclocked version of 8350. You can easily reach what 8350 can give you by overcloking the 8320 slightly.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=697

That's a benchmark of 8350 vs 8320. The theory being that 8350 overclocks better. But to be honest with what you are doing you will never need to do that so for you it won't matter at all. Personally i would save the 50 euro off the CPU and buy a better card like i said 7850 or GTX 550TI or GTX 660. Personally i would just go for 7850 since it's cheap reliable runs great and overclocks like a boss.
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June 18, 2013 5:33:19 AM

As you see from the benchmarks during gameplay the difference is 5/8 FPS and that's on top of 200+FPS so you will never notice it.
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June 18, 2013 5:35:44 AM

ok then probably im going for the 8320 and i can overclock later if needed (thanks fo your help)

one last answer! is warranty lost if i overclock?
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June 18, 2013 5:41:15 AM

giannis808 said:
ok then probably im going for the 8320 and i can overclock later if needed (thanks fo your help)

one last answer! is warranty lost if i overclock?
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if you overclock your voltage to the point where it burns your chip. Than the warranty is voided. Mild overclocks are generally acceptable. It is considered that overcloking is tempering with the chip so in most cases it doesn't fall under warranty but it's individual case. If the company wants to be a bitch about it they can refuse to repair it. I've had experiences with intel reparing overclocked chips burned in the past ( i am an expert at burning cheap intel chips for the lolz). The joy of working at computer store with tons of old hardware to mess around with.

But yeah if u want 100% warranty don't OC the voltage. But please i urge you get a proper graphic card or you will regret it in the long run. YOu could also get one GTX 650 now and than another one later down the road so you can run 2x650 cards. 600 series will become cheaper in due time. But my best advice stands with 7850 from ATI.

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June 18, 2013 5:46:29 AM

i think i will stick with my gtx 650 for now and buy a second one in 3 months or so...i wont play with oc before about 1 year so i dont think i have to worry about it! also i think a gtx 650 is enough for me now and i dont have 90 more euros to spend on a better card...ill think about getting a second card at christmas :p 
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June 18, 2013 5:48:19 AM

giannis808 said:
i think i will stick with my gtx 650 for now and buy a second one in 3 months or so...i wont play with oc before about 1 year so i dont think i have to worry about it! also i think a gtx 650 is enough for me now and i dont have 90 more euros to spend on a better card...ill think about getting a second card at christmas :p 


Solid choice. I support this behavior. Do make sure when u get a second card to have enough airflow in your case. Otherwise those things will run hot. And i mean bake eggs hot.
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June 18, 2013 5:49:57 AM

does my mobo supports two cards? is there a special way to run 2 cards or do i just need to buy it and place it inside?



(edit) also i would like to sli these two cards! should i go on a fx 6350 an buy this mobo? GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 RETAIL
(edit2) fx 6350 not an 6300
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June 18, 2013 6:39:01 AM

Your mobo can support a second card but it will perform very poorly since it needs PCIE 2.0 x16 slot to work properly. The deal with Dual cards is you need to have 2 PCIE 2.0 x16 slots. Than you just shove both cards in the slots and connect them using an SLI bridge. It's a little plastic like thing that comes with every card.

http://www.nordichardware.com/skrivelser_img/432/sli.br...

But with this mobo you can't rock 2 cards. Hadn't really checked the board until now.
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June 18, 2013 6:48:42 AM

GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 RETAIL ok ill try this mobo then

(edit) will i see a great difference if they pcie slot isnt x16?
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