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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 10:37:19 AM
Hello, right i need some insight in upgrading my card.....currently have a EVGA GTX550ti 2Gb, now before everyone starts arguing Nividia vs AMD, i am going for Nividia cards.....currently looking at the GTX670, GTX680 and the GTX770 if i feel i can stretch to it, i currently use my pc for occasional gaming (only single player atm, plus ones i can mod), but use it for 3D work, UDK etc, so i was thinking maybe the power and extra cuda cores on the 680 and 770 may be beneficial, currently hooked up to 37inch plasma @ 720p native (i.e desktop etc, and Sims 3) 1080p on other games, so what one may be best for my needs, btw will also be getting next gen games, GTA5, Watchdogs etc! BTW im in the UK, so some brands not available here!
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I would go with a 770, may i suggest this model http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
but since the 770 is basically an overclocked 680 with better tdp and cooling, if you wanna save some money you can just buy a 680 and OC it.
but since the 770 is basically an overclocked 680 with better tdp and cooling, if you wanna save some money you can just buy a 680 and OC it.
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I don't think the GTX680 is worthy of consideration, with the faster 770 available.
Be sure your PSU is up to the task. You will want at least 550W for one of these high-end cards, more likely a little more.
If money is an issue, take a look at the Graphics Card hierarchy chart; you'll see that you don't need to go all the way up to a GTX770 to be much better than your 550Ti. It might be worth waiting for some of the other 700-series cards, but a GTX660Ti would be a pretty hefty boost from what you have now, and will run on a solid 500W PSU.
Be sure your PSU is up to the task. You will want at least 550W for one of these high-end cards, more likely a little more.
If money is an issue, take a look at the Graphics Card hierarchy chart; you'll see that you don't need to go all the way up to a GTX770 to be much better than your 550Ti. It might be worth waiting for some of the other 700-series cards, but a GTX660Ti would be a pretty hefty boost from what you have now, and will run on a solid 500W PSU.
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 10:50:45 AM
In my mind the GTX 770 is the best option.
The GTX 670 is $350-$400
The GTX 770 is $400-$420
The GTX 680 is $420-$530
And the 770 is the fastest. At this point the GTX 670 and GTX 680 are pointless options in my mind. Unless someone already has one and needs a second for SLI. For the guy looking to buy a new card at this point the GTX 770 trumps both 670 and 680. It's too close in price to the 670. And cheaper than and faster than the 680.
I completely agree on the recommendation above for the EVGA GTX 770 with the ACX cooler.
The GTX 670 is $350-$400
The GTX 770 is $400-$420
The GTX 680 is $420-$530
And the 770 is the fastest. At this point the GTX 670 and GTX 680 are pointless options in my mind. Unless someone already has one and needs a second for SLI. For the guy looking to buy a new card at this point the GTX 770 trumps both 670 and 680. It's too close in price to the 670. And cheaper than and faster than the 680.
I completely agree on the recommendation above for the EVGA GTX 770 with the ACX cooler.
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These are my recommendations:
Asus GTX 770 DirectCu 2 w/Backplate $409
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA GTX 770 ACX $409
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA GTX 770 Superclock ACX $419 (This is what I got)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI GTX 770 TwinFroza IV $399
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus GTX 770 DirectCu 2 w/Backplate $409
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA GTX 770 ACX $409
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA GTX 770 Superclock ACX $419 (This is what I got)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI GTX 770 TwinFroza IV $399
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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The GTX 770 is clearly the best option of that group. It's has quite significantly the highest performance level while sitting right in between the 670 and 680 in terms of price.
The only other consideration I would throw into the mix is to perhaps wait until June 25th when the GTX 760 is released. It should outperform a GTX 670 for about $300. It may also have an impact on the pricing of the other cards.
The only other consideration I would throw into the mix is to perhaps wait until June 25th when the GTX 760 is released. It should outperform a GTX 670 for about $300. It may also have an impact on the pricing of the other cards.
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:01:37 AM
yh i do like EVGA they are a good company, i only built my rig last year so the 550ti was a good starter as i got it on sale, will probs leave it in their when i get the new one dont know what for yet tho lol, plus plan to upgrade my case fans at some point this year and some dust proofing on the massive mesh grill on the side of my case (cooler master storm trooper)
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:04:50 AM
jdsb52 said:
yh i do like EVGA they are a good company, i only built my rig last year so the 550ti was a good starter as i got it on sale, will probs leave it in their when i get the new one dont know what for yet tho lol, plus plan to upgrade my case fans at some point this year and some dust proofing on the massive mesh grill on the side of my case (cooler master storm trooper)If you put in a GTX 770 the only thing you can use the GTX 550Ti for would be PhysX. Certain game titles use PhysX. So you'd only have performance gains with those specific games. And you'd have to make sure you designate the second card as the dedicated PhysX processor in the nVidia Control Panel.
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:15:16 AM
jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:17:57 AM
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:25:05 AM
drtoast said:
For the UK. WAE+ and dinopc are decent prices, but dont garuntee which maker you get. Otherwise amazon and Novatech are ok pricing, but you can pick which maker and cooler i.e if you order the MSI twin frozr OC thats what your going to get.i ordered some of my rigs parts from them, were ok then my mouse broke within the year warranty n was aslo discontinued so chose replacment mouse and said i would pay the £5 difference, not gonna go on, but had not so pleasant experience with their customer services team, until i spoke to the manager n he sorted it straight away! ( just put this out there for UK peeps)
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What about the CPU? Pairing a ragingly fast GPU with a slow CPU is just throwing money away.
Check with your software vendor/s to see if what you are using will benefit from Cuda acceleration, support varies according to package and release version.
Top of the pile is obviously the GTX770, but the GTX670 is also a powerful gaming card, and significantly cheaper.
Check with your software vendor/s to see if what you are using will benefit from Cuda acceleration, support varies according to package and release version.
Top of the pile is obviously the GTX770, but the GTX670 is also a powerful gaming card, and significantly cheaper.
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:29:16 AM
coozie7 said:
What about the CPU? Pairing a ragingly fast GPU with a slow CPU is just throwing money away.Check with your software vendor/s to see if what you are using will benefit from Cuda acceleration, support varies according to package and release version.
Top of the pile is obviously the GTX770, but the GTX670 is also a powerful gaming card, and significantly cheaper.
My CPU is a FX-8120 Black, on Asus 990FX........n yes people i know not PCIe 3....but but the threads i read on here and on other forums, very marginal performance gains
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jdsb52 said:
17seconds said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=7...forgot bout overclockers
I actually "imported" a rare video card from OverclockersUK, shipped from England to California. No problems at all. I'd go with them again if I ever lost my mind like that a second time.
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coozie7 said:
What about the CPU? Pairing a ragingly fast GPU with a slow CPU is just throwing money away.Check with your software vendor/s to see if what you are using will benefit from Cuda acceleration, support varies according to package and release version.
Top of the pile is obviously the GTX770, but the GTX670 is also a powerful gaming card, and significantly cheaper.
The GTX 670 is about 10% slower (not much really), but at that point you'd kick yourself to get one only to find out next week that the GTX 760 outperforms it for less money.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_770_Lightnin...
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:40:01 AM
17seconds said:
jdsb52 said:
17seconds said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=7...forgot bout overclockers
I actually "imported" a rare video card from OverclockersUK, shipped from England to California. No problems at all. I'd go with them again if I ever lost my mind like that a second time.
17seconds said:
coozie7 said:
What about the CPU? Pairing a ragingly fast GPU with a slow CPU is just throwing money away.Check with your software vendor/s to see if what you are using will benefit from Cuda acceleration, support varies according to package and release version.
Top of the pile is obviously the GTX770, but the GTX670 is also a powerful gaming card, and significantly cheaper.
The GTX 670 is about 10% slower (not much really), but at that point you'd kick yourself to get one only to find out next week that the GTX 760 outperforms it for less money.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_770_Lightnin...
deffo gonna wait til the 760 comes out, as u said might affect the others prices, i really want to get the best i can and the one that will last me for a good few years, maybe even get two eventually and SLI them!
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 11:54:37 AM
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 1:09:51 PM
while we are here n this thread is open, any of u guys heard of or got this companies products??http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CM...
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jdsb52 said:
coozie7 said:
@ jdsb52: Sounds like a sensible plan, but it'll take a few weeks for prices to realign.Good idea to use the 550 as a PhysX card BTW-if you want to do so.
Probs will be doing that, will also come in handy when doing i get round to doing physx in stuff like UDK, Softimage, Blender etc
Those are not GPU-accelerated PhysX games. Make sure you actually play those types of games before you bother with a dedicated PhysX card. Here's a list:
http://www.physxinfo.com
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jdsb52
June 18, 2013 2:57:06 PM
jdsb52
June 18, 2013 2:59:51 PM
17seconds said:
jdsb52 said:
10994400,0,128821 said:
@ jdsb52: Sounds like a sensible plan, but it'll take a few weeks for prices to realign.Good idea to use the 550 as a PhysX card BTW-if you want to do so.
said:
Probs will be doing that, will also come in handy when doing i get round to doing physx in stuff like UDK, Softimage, Blender etc
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Those are not GPU-accelerated PhysX games. Make sure you actually play those types of games before you bother with a dedicated PhysX card. Here's a list:
http://www.physxinfo.com[/quotem
UDK is Unreal Development Kit game engine used in borderlands 2, batman, softimage and blender are 3d animation and modeling softwares that can create physx effects
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jdsb52
June 19, 2013 1:09:22 PM
well guys, the GTX-760 details have emerged :0,
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-official-spe...
http://www.techpowerup.com/185782/nvidia-geforce-gtx-76...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-geforce-gpu-GTX...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-official-spe...
http://www.techpowerup.com/185782/nvidia-geforce-gtx-76...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-geforce-gpu-GTX...
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jdsb52 said:
well guys, the GTX-760 details have emerged :0, http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-official-spe...
http://www.techpowerup.com/185782/nvidia-geforce-gtx-76...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-geforce-gpu-GTX...
To quote the toms link
One thing to note, though, is that the screenshot doesn't indicate specifically that this is the GTX 760. For all we know, the title of the forum post might be wrong, and this screenshot might be that of, say, a GTX 750. We won't know until later.
Dont get hasty
patience young grasshopper.
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jdsb52
June 19, 2013 1:27:28 PM
jdsb52
June 19, 2013 1:37:58 PM
drtoast said:
Tell me about it, I picked out all the parts I wanted on pcpart picker on the USA site, and just converted the price....Then I realised I could change the site to the UK pricing and cried a little :c
i would have aswell........ i bet could have built my rig for like £500-600 in US dollar, yet it cost bout £40 under a grand!
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The EVGA GTX 770 w/ ACX http://amzn.to/12iIbiR is an awesome card for the price. It's hard to beat right now.
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jdsb52
June 25, 2013 6:40:15 AM
There's a deal @ NewEgg.com on the Sapphire 7970 GHz Edition Vapor-X card for $369 - $20 MIR = $249 + 4 Games
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not a bad alternative to get near GTX 770 performance and beat out the 760 handily. Yet save some dough. Assuming you're not opposed to AMD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Not a bad alternative to get near GTX 770 performance and beat out the 760 handily. Yet save some dough. Assuming you're not opposed to AMD.
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Intel God
June 25, 2013 9:28:08 AM
GTX 760 was released today and looks like a solid choice at 249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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jdsb52
June 25, 2013 9:51:14 AM
Onus said:
The OP started out he was considering nVidia-only. I suspect this has to do with non-gaming applications, but in any case means that suggesting an AMD card is not relevant.ur quite right, if i was just gaming only, probs would consider a AMD, but i use 3dsmax, maya, blender, Unreal Development kit etc, all are optimized for cuda and physx
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jdsb52
June 25, 2013 1:18:44 PM
17seconds said:
From today's review of the GTX 760:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-760-rev...


Onus said:
The 770 looks like a MUCH better card.Yup i would have to agree, but its benchmarks like these that make me want to afford the 780 or Titan.......but i might get lucky in a comp i entered to win a 780! but will have to wait til next week..!
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jdsb52 said:
17seconds said:
From today's review of the GTX 760:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-760-rev...


Onus said:
The 770 looks like a MUCH better card.Yup i would have to agree, but its benchmarks like these that make me want to afford the 780 or Titan.......but i might get lucky in a comp i entered to win a 780! but will have to wait til next week..!
LOL Good luck winning that 780. Your odds are probably 1 in 12,394,621,346 nerds (random odds created by mashing keyboard).
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jdsb52
June 26, 2013 1:38:26 AM
jerreece said:
jdsb52 said:
17seconds said:
From today's review of the GTX 760:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-760-rev...


Onus said:
The 770 looks like a MUCH better card.Yup i would have to agree, but its benchmarks like these that make me want to afford the 780 or Titan.......but i might get lucky in a comp i entered to win a 780! but will have to wait til next week..!
LOL Good luck winning that 780. Your odds are probably 1 in 12,394,621,346 nerds (random odds created by mashing keyboard).
lol one can only hope!
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