Just saw this PC; why so cheap?

Pindi7 · Jun 18, 2013

Hi,

I was looking for a new PC when I came across this:
http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/custom-built-computers/intel-core-i5-3570k-windows-8-pc-1tb-8gb-ati-7950-3gb-reaper-z77-computer.html

I'm not a PC expert but it seems pretty cheap. What do you guys think?

bgunner · Jun 18, 2013

the CPU is now 2 generations old, the case is cheap, the HDD is only Sata 2 and there is no info given on the PSU so these add up to a less expensive system.

EDIT: read 4 posts down before commenting on this post.

thently · Jun 18, 2013

Not a bad deal go for it. 2 gen old ? how a 3570K 2 gen old I realize 4xxx is out but you won't get a deal like this with that so this is a nice middle to high range system for a fairly good price.

Sakkura · Jun 18, 2013

Cheap motherboard, stock CPU cooler, no SSD, cheap case - and not least a crappy PSU. It's a ripoff.

NappySlapper · Jun 18, 2013

It seems like a pretty good pc for the price, I did not look over it fully but:
Psu sounds a bit iffy as they dont list the brand.
Case is fairly cheap and bad.
Probably a low quality 7950 I would guess.
Things like the hard drive may not be the top tier models, e.g have 5200rpm instead of 7200.
There is no cpu cooler either which typically adds about £30.
Remember also, there is no monitor, mouse or keyboard included which would likely add another £170

bgunner · Jun 18, 2013

thently :

I mis-read the web site, I thought it said Sandy Bridge and not the Ivy bridge. In my defense the two names are very close together and I'm not the only one to make this mistake. But the rest of my statement hold true.

opponentmule2 · Jun 18, 2013

decent deal.

you'll have to make some upgrades yourself though, such as the SSD.

This would be a extremely good deal if it comes with the 4 games that AMD promises with their GPU.

a 3570k is not bad at all, in fact, you'll get better performance if you OC it a lot than a haswell 4670k.

USAFRet · Jun 18, 2013

For £700, I don't see it as that 'cheap', given the parts selection.

As others have said, PSU, case (no USB 3?), unknown RAM config, unknown HDD speed...all issues to be addressed/replaced.

bumnut53 · Jun 18, 2013

bgunner :

I think its ok, the CPU is actually 1 generation old not two. Im running an i7 950 which is 4 generations old and still have no need for more CPU power. GPU is solid and will handle everything for now. You could probably build it for less but if you don't know how to do it this is not a bad choice.

Sakkura · Jun 18, 2013

bumnut53 :

Actually it is a bad choice, because if you don't know much about computers you'll be twice as helpless if/when the crappy PSU malfunctions.

NappySlapper · Jun 18, 2013

I think if you were willing to replace psu it could be a pretty good deal.
As a comparison though, I just built a pc with what I would consider better specs in terms of motherboard, psu , case and hard drive for about £55 cheaper

ingtar33 · Jun 18, 2013

Pindi7 :

i wouldn't call an $1100 pc cheap. thats about $900 or so in parts. The real question is what is the PSU. a crappy PSU will ruin your day... and that they don't say what it is scares me a bit. that's also a crappy case.

bgunner · Jun 18, 2013

bumnut53 :

If you would have read the hole thread and not to just my post then you would have read why I said what I did. Read 4 posts further down and then comment back.

Pindi7 · Jun 18, 2013

NappySlapper :

What are the specs for your build?

g-unit1111 · Jun 18, 2013

Sakkura :

Anything that does not tell you absolute specifics about the machine you plan to purchase - especially if it says "750W branded PSU!" or "Major name GPU!", then that should be a massive red flag.

ingtar33 · Jun 19, 2013

g-unit1111 :

+1
Listen to this man~ He reads it the same way I do. It's sorta like whenever an ad reads "great gaming computer" or "high end gaming machine" then they gloss over the gpu with vague comments like "top end radeon gpu" or "gaming ready nvidia gpu"... you know you're gonna get a HD 6450 or GTX 620 to match your "high end intel gaming cpu" otherwise known as an i3-3220T

seriously, whenever you look at a prebuilt system and it won't list all the details straight up, you know they're gonna screw you with a low end part. And while my examples focused on cpus and gpus... MOST prebuilt systems REALLY screw you over with the PSU.

NappySlapper · Jun 19, 2013

Pindi7 :

990fx saber tooth rev 2
8350 with hyper 212 evo
8gb 1600 patriot viper3
1tb western digital 7200 but only caviar blue
Power supply is 650 bronze plus modular from ocz
Then the obvious optical drive, wireless adapter and 6 fans
Case is a z9 plus
7950 with 3free games too

g-unit1111 · Jun 19, 2013

ingtar33 :

Exactly, I've been around long enough and I've built and used enough systems over the years to know when you will get screwed on hardware. If they don't tell you specific details about any part, or they just generalize, you will get screwed.

Just saw this PC; why so cheap?

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