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June 20, 2013 10:46:47 AM

Hi, Im looking to build a gaming pc specifically for FFXIV (MMO) that I can play on max/ultra settings on 1080 with great FPS all around even in the most crowded areas. I wasn’t sure if this is an overkill to achieve this with this certain game, especially the GTX 770?

The setup totals to $1509 on Maingear which I know is a bit pricey, but I am not really looking to build it myself.
Is this price roughly what I can expect for a setup like this? Is there any way I could get something cheaper, maybe even go down to an i3 and a GTX 650 and STILL run this game on max with great graphics and FPS?

Also, what do you think of the monitor? Is there anything I could get that would be bigger/better at the same res for a similar price of $150?

Thank you

Chassis: Vybe 2012 Chassis
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 2x Crossfire
Processor: Intel Core i5 4570 3.2GHz/3.6GHz Turbo 6MB L3 Cache HD 4600
Processor Cooling: MAINGEAR Certified Intel Retail Cooler
Memory: 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 1.5V (2x4GB)
Graphics and GPGPU Accelerator: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 w/PhysX
SSD Caching for faster system response: 32GB SSD Caching Drive
Hard Drive Bay One: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G
Power Supply: 500W Corsair Builder Series 80 Plus Certified PSU
Optical Drive One: 24X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive
Display: 21.5” Asus VS228H-P 1920x1080 LCD [TN Panel]
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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June 20, 2013 10:57:32 AM

Tidussj said:
Hi, Im looking to build a gaming pc specifically for FFXIV (MMO) that I can play on max/ultra settings on 1080 with great FPS all around even in the most crowded areas. I wasn’t sure if this is an overkill to achieve this with this certain game, especially the GTX 770?

The setup totals to $1509 on Maingear which I know is a bit pricey, but I am not really looking to build it myself.
Is this price roughly what I can expect for a setup like this? Is there any way I could get something cheaper, maybe even go down to an i3 and a GTX 650 and STILL run this game on max with great graphics and FPS?

Also, what do you think of the monitor? Is there anything I could get that would be bigger/better at the same res for a similar price of $150?

Thank you

Chassis: Vybe 2012 Chassis
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 2x Crossfire
Processor: Intel Core i5 4570 3.2GHz/3.6GHz Turbo 6MB L3 Cache HD 4600
Processor Cooling: MAINGEAR Certified Intel Retail Cooler
Memory: 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 1.5V (2x4GB)
Graphics and GPGPU Accelerator: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 w/PhysX
SSD Caching for faster system response: 32GB SSD Caching Drive
Hard Drive Bay One: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G
Power Supply: 500W Corsair Builder Series 80 Plus Certified PSU
Optical Drive One: 24X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive
Display: 21.5” Asus VS228H-P 1920x1080 LCD [TN Panel]
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


That's a well balanced build.
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June 20, 2013 11:04:05 AM

If you wanted to shave a bit off the price, a i5-3570 and a cheaper motherboard (around $60) can be used just for those parts... Although you will get more lifespan in terms of upgrade options from that build.

The 770 also requires a 600w PSU, but thats like an extra $8
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June 20, 2013 11:11:31 AM

Yeah, this isn't bad at all, however if you go with the i5 3570K you can shave off a couple bucks and go for the ASRock Z75 mobo for like $85. As far as the PSU goes, you'll need a bit more than that, 750W should be about good (or more).
The monitor isn't too bad, in my opinion 23" is the minimum for the best experience, but that's a decent price with a good contrast ratio. Overall that's a pretty decent build that just needed some tweaks, but FF is pretty graphically intensive and you won't want to drop down too much lower on your CPU/GPU if you want to play the game with decent graphical fidelity.
Also that GTX 770 is awesome, I have one myself.
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June 20, 2013 11:16:25 AM

Doom2you said:
As far as the PSU goes, you'll need a bit more than that, 750W should be about good (or more).


Manufacturer states 600w minimum.... They are famous for overestimating, actual draw is only like 150w so you entire system ends up using like 320w, 600 is plenty of breathing space :p 
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June 20, 2013 11:52:27 AM

You can go lower on the card and still get good results, your max FPS will not just be from the computer but also from the server and your network connection.
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June 20, 2013 1:20:05 PM

hang-the-9 said:
You can go lower on the card and still get good results, your max FPS will not just be from the computer but also from the server and your network connection.


I thought about this..so is there any suggestion for a network card upgrade? will that help as well?

Its just that if I see just 1 spec of lag or frame rate issue after spending $1500, I will be really disappointed lol..thats a lot of money to me to spend on a pc I dont use them at all but I want to play this game hardcore..if I could get away with a $600-$800 build and somehow pull off an above average gaming experience I would rather do that but from what I read it wont be good enough..

Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it.
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June 20, 2013 3:14:21 PM

Tidussj said:
hang-the-9 said:
You can go lower on the card and still get good results, your max FPS will not just be from the computer but also from the server and your network connection.


I thought about this..so is there any suggestion for a network card upgrade? will that help as well?

Its just that if I see just 1 spec of lag or frame rate issue after spending $1500, I will be really disappointed lol..thats a lot of money to me to spend on a pc I dont use them at all but I want to play this game hardcore..if I could get away with a $600-$800 build and somehow pull off an above average gaming experience I would rather do that but from what I read it wont be good enough..

Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it.


Well, looking at FFIV's recommended specs page, it lists at least a GTX 660 or Radeon 7950 or higher. I'm of the opinion that the GTX 770 will last quite a long time, long after this game is released, so that's also something to think about. You could attempt to lower the cost of the build, but it'd be difficult seeing as you're looking for the complete package (PC plus monitor/case, etc.)
And don't worry about network cards, the onboard NIC that's on the mobo will suit you just fine for your needs. But other than upping the wattage of your PSU, the build is very well balanced and would serve as a great gaming PC for easily a few years.
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June 20, 2013 3:23:44 PM

I've been tinkering around with Maingear, since I know you stated you weren't too keen on building the PC yourself, and found the build I'm going to assume you were listing in your original post. It's awesome that it comes with free games, and the price isn't too terrible for what you're getting, surprisingly enough. I say just upgrade to the GTX 770 and 600W Corsair PSU, however don't include any peripherals (monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc.). I found that they were a tad bit pricey and places like newegg and amazon would give you MUCH better deals. Other than that, the total came to about $1,400, and you could do worse for a pre-built.
The peripherals will take some time and research to find what's right for you, but I think it's worth the time. It makes the payoff that much better :) 
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June 20, 2013 3:31:25 PM

Doom2you said:
I've been tinkering around with Maingear, since I know you stated you weren't too keen on building the PC yourself, and found the build I'm going to assume you were listing in your original post. It's awesome that it comes with free games, and the price isn't too terrible for what you're getting, surprisingly enough. I say just upgrade to the GTX 770 and 600W Corsair PSU, however don't include any peripherals (monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc.). I found that they were a tad bit pricey and places like newegg and amazon would give you MUCH better deals. Other than that, the total came to about $1,400, and you could do worse for a pre-built.
The peripherals will take some time and research to find what's right for you, but I think it's worth the time. It makes the payoff that much better :) 


Awesome stuff! That was EXACTLY my plan and upgrade setup :) 
After some research, I landed on the 24" Asus VG248QE monitor..what do you think of that? I really would rather stay around the $150 price range but the 1ms response and 144hz were too good to pass on for only $100 more..
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June 20, 2013 3:37:17 PM

Tidussj said:
Doom2you said:
I've been tinkering around with Maingear, since I know you stated you weren't too keen on building the PC yourself, and found the build I'm going to assume you were listing in your original post. It's awesome that it comes with free games, and the price isn't too terrible for what you're getting, surprisingly enough. I say just upgrade to the GTX 770 and 600W Corsair PSU, however don't include any peripherals (monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc.). I found that they were a tad bit pricey and places like newegg and amazon would give you MUCH better deals. Other than that, the total came to about $1,400, and you could do worse for a pre-built.
The peripherals will take some time and research to find what's right for you, but I think it's worth the time. It makes the payoff that much better :) 


Awesome stuff! That was EXACTLY my plan and upgrade setup :) 
After some research, I landed on the 24" Asus VG248QE monitor..what do you think of that? I really would rather stay around the $150 price range but the 1ms response and 144hz were too good to pass on for only $100 more..


I've always been one of those guys that's never really supported the whole "let's get crazy with our refresh rates" thing, but if you want 3D, as well as a decent contrast ratio and great response time, not to mention built-in speakers (which are always handy), you could definitely do worse. On newegg it's a decent sale price too at $269. If you're willing to drop all that cash it's a good monitor, but conversely you could save $100 bucks or so and spend it on a good mouse/keyboard, which is a whole 'nuther bag of worms on its own. Otherwise it's a great monitor.
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June 20, 2013 3:41:10 PM

Great info thank you!
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June 20, 2013 3:44:52 PM

Anytime, and good luck! FFIV looks awesome.
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June 20, 2013 3:46:01 PM

Not sure if they pointed it out or not, but FFXIV the first attempt was terrible with performance optimization. The game ran poorly, so just be weary of the game engine itself. I know that they are redoing it with FFXIV: A realm reborn.
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June 20, 2013 3:49:24 PM

Zeallot said:
Not sure if they pointed it out or not, but FFXIV the first attempt was terrible with performance optimization. The game ran poorly, so just be weary of the game engine itself. I know that they are redoing it with FFXIV: A realm reborn.


I actually had a friend who spent more time than a person should've been allowed to legally spend in the mess that was the initial FFIV release, but he's been in the beta for A Realm Reborn and says they've done some awesome overhauls to it that make the game infinitely better than its predecessor, and, in his opinion, better than a lot of MMO's on the market right now, especially if you're into FF.
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June 20, 2013 3:49:59 PM

Zeallot said:
Not sure if they pointed it out or not, but FFXIV the first attempt was terrible with performance optimization. The game ran poorly, so just be weary of the game engine itself. I know that they are redoing it with FFXIV: A realm reborn.


Yes that is true and yes it should be much better whole new graphics engine
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June 20, 2013 3:52:52 PM

Doom2you said:
Zeallot said:
Not sure if they pointed it out or not, but FFXIV the first attempt was terrible with performance optimization. The game ran poorly, so just be weary of the game engine itself. I know that they are redoing it with FFXIV: A realm reborn.


I actually had a friend who spent more time than a person should've been allowed to legally spend in the mess that was the initial FFIV release, but he's been in the beta for A Realm Reborn and says they've done some awesome overhauls to it that make the game infinitely better than its predecessor, and, in his opinion, better than a lot of MMO's on the market right now, especially if you're into FF.


Lol. Glad to hear that bc i already preordered! Haha
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June 20, 2013 3:53:13 PM

Tidussj said:
Zeallot said:
Not sure if they pointed it out or not, but FFXIV the first attempt was terrible with performance optimization. The game ran poorly, so just be weary of the game engine itself. I know that they are redoing it with FFXIV: A realm reborn.


Yes that is true and yes it should be much better whole new graphics engine


Yeah I'm really looking forward to it. I got fedup with the last game, but it looked fantastic nevertheless.

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