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~$3000 PC Build (Water-cooling plans for the future) Advice needed

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June 20, 2013 10:48:41 PM

For the entirety of my gaming "career" has been on second rate business computers and laptops capable of flash games and a few titles if i'm really lucky. To hell with this! I've finally acquired enough funds from a stable summer job, to afford a legitimate Gaming rig. So ive been trying to put a quality rigg together that will handle my needs(MAX settings on AAA titles with substantial frames and fluid movement and smoothness). With your help, id love to get one going.

Approximate Purchase Date: Next week or 2 depending on advice given by everyone here.

Budget Range: ~3000 before rebates, before shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, video editing and rendering, Blu ray movies, internet

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: Complete scratch build

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, Windows 7

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, microcenter, ncix I'd love suggestions and reputation of stores

Location: Near Denver, Colo USA (summers are brutal ~90 F)

Parts Preferences: Intel, corsair, NZXT, nvidia

Overclocking: If possible and cool, Yes

SLI or Crossfire: If budget allows

Your Monitor Resolution: 1080p(might move to 1440p in future)

Additional Comments: I'm in love with the Phantom 530 and will get it once available. Max settings, high frames, cool, quiet. If at all possible I love pc themes that are red, white, and black. Id like to watercool (CPU and GPU) eventually so id like to be set on parts ahead of time so only watercooling parts need to be worried about. Until then, A water cooled CPU cooler looks nicer than any air cooler ive seen(id keep the the overclocking light until a custom loop becomes available) Id rather have a 3770k and 2 780' than a 3930k and one 780.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Crap gaming experience for years and i want to change that.
Thank you all very much for any response, it helps alot
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June 20, 2013 11:02:24 PM

Total $3086

Case - $250 - Corsair 500R White http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU - incl. w/ above - Corsair HX850 included with above

MoBo - $450 - ASUS Z87 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl. w/ above - Intel Core i5-4770k Included w/ above and MoBo has built in wireless, $100 combo discount and $10 off w/ promo code Z87MB617, ends 6/20

Used the 4770k since ya included video editing .... id just gaming, save the $100 and get below the $3k line

RAM - $125 - (2 x 8GB) Muskin CAS 9 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler - $80 - Phanteks PH-TC14 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $7 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...
http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...

GFX - $450 - Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce 4GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $450 - Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce Same
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4440/13/nvidia-geforce-...

HD - $160 Caviar Black 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $250 - Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Writer - $54 - Asus Blue Ray Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - $270 ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - $270 ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor
Monitor - $270 ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor

With modern low power CPUs / GPUs I no longer see an advantage in water cooling.
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June 20, 2013 11:06:34 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($228.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($1074.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone FT02B-W ATX Mid Tower Case ($238.98 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP182 170.0 CFM 180mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP182 170.0 CFM 180mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP182 170.0 CFM 180mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($161.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2680.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-21 02:11 EDT-0400)


You dont really need water cooling unless you want to get that last ounce of OC for which you need higher voltages, not really worth with the diminishing returns tbh. A good air cooled setup will work well enough. The fortress is one of the best air cooling cases and very compact and sleek looking. Add 3 180mm Air penetrator fans for intake and you really will have a cool system even with high OCs. The fans are relatively quiet for the CFM they provide and in addition the silverstone fortress ft02b has sound dampenind foam on the sidepanels etc to make them even mroe quiet.

As for the video card, you can go Titan if you are looking to play higher resolutions like 1440p in the future as you mentioned in your post. If not you can easily go with 1 (or 2, may need more Wattage on your psu if you decide to SLI) 780s, since the 780 will perform pretty much the same as a Titan if you OC it a bit. (The only thing the Titan will offer atm over the 780 is the higher VRAM, the perf is similar apart frm that). If you plan to play on 1080p you wont need anything more than 3gb. However at higher resolutions more vram will come into play.

I wasnt sure if you need a keyboard/mouse etc but there is still room in your budget if you want to add it.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 20, 2013 11:14:52 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler ($73.00 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($364.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2938.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-21 02:14 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
June 21, 2013 12:54:08 AM

This would be even better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Respire T40 68.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.01 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($177.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($324.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1250W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2740.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-21 03:53 EDT-0400)

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June 21, 2013 2:07:35 AM

Now this what i call best system ever under $2.75k. Should be.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($134.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: ROCCAT Isku FX Wired Gaming Keyboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $2727.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-21 05:06 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
June 21, 2013 2:58:01 AM

Get i7-4770k+ gigabyte z87 ud4h combo from microcenter

Swiftech h220 gives you the option to expand the watercooling to the gpu. The pump is way stronger then other AIO-watercooling kits



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($152.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($569.35 @ Amazon)
Total: $2652.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-21 05:56 EDT-0400)
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