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Which one?: Intel i5 3570+AMD HD7770 or AMD FX8150+GTX650 or AMD A10+GTX660

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June 22, 2013 4:55:42 AM

can somebody please help me build me a pc in 3 choices (above) which i can play crysis 3, battlefield 3, dirt 3, counter strike global offensive, bioshock infinite, modern warfare 4, black ops 2, metro: last night and nfs most wanted 2012? but which is more important, the gpu? or the cpu? please help.if you're going to ask what's the amount of ram i picked, its an 8gb ram. so please help.
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June 22, 2013 5:06:04 AM

jabuscus said:
can somebody please help me build me a pc in 3 choices (above) which i can play crysis 3? but which is more important, the gpu? or the cpu? please help.if you're going to ask what's the amount of ram i picked, its an 8gb ram. so please help.
Thanks Everyone.

what is your budget? how much are the following components where you're going to shop?
which core i5 3570, the k-version or non-k version? crysis 3 is mostly gpu-bound game but it can benefit from cpu power as well.
this is the most recent crysis 3 bench i could find:
http://techreport.com/review/24954/amd-a10-6800k-and-a1...
here is tomshardware's own cpu benchmark:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performanc...
if money is tight, you can try a core i5 3470 or any core i5 with radeon hd 7870xt or 7870.
if budget is really tight, may be an amd fx 8320 with radeon 7870/7950.
but not amd fx8150. both intel and amd released better cpus for gaming.
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June 22, 2013 5:24:32 AM

Don't get an A10 if you're going to buy a discrete graphics card. You can get the i3, then 7950!
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June 22, 2013 5:25:38 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:
can somebody please help me build me a pc in 3 choices (above) which i can play crysis 3? but which is more important, the gpu? or the cpu? please help.if you're going to ask what's the amount of ram i picked, its an 8gb ram. so please help.
Thanks Everyone.

what is your budget? how much are the following components where you're going to shop?
which core i5 3570, the k-version or non-k version? crysis 3 is mostly gpu-bound game but it can benefit from cpu power as well.
this is the most recent crysis 3 bench i could find:
http://techreport.com/review/24954/amd-a10-6800k-and-a1...
here is tomshardware's own cpu benchmark:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performanc...
if money is tight, you can try a core i5 3470 or any core i5 with radeon hd 7870xt or 7870.
if budget is really tight, may be an amd fx 8320 with radeon 7870/7950.
but not amd fx8150. both intel and amd released better cpus for gaming.

we're not that rich to buy a high-end pc so i think we're strict in budget. about the i5, the non-k version. the 8320 is not in the list of processors but i can see an 8120. the 7870 is expensive.
sorry if the 8320 is not included and the 7870 is expensive because im from the philippines. some video cards and processors are expensive here. i hope you understand me. if i divided 30000 pesos to 44 pesos to get the price in dollars, i'd say that it's in $681.82
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June 22, 2013 5:28:29 AM

adimeister said:
Don't get an A10 if you're going to buy a discrete graphics card. You can get the i3, then 7950!


the 7950 is expensive here in the philippines. but the i3 is cheap. any other alternatives aside the 7950? my budget is (if 30000 pesos is divided into 44 to get the price in dollars) $681.82
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June 22, 2013 5:30:07 AM

Partner, taga Pinas din ako (I'm from Philippines too). :D  If you have a Php 30,000 budget, go for fx 4000 series then go for 7850. :D  7870 is at 11,000.
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June 22, 2013 5:34:06 AM

adimeister said:
Partner, taga Pinas din ako (I'm from Philippines too). :D  If you have a Php 30,000 budget, go for fx 4000 series then go for 7850. :D  7870 is at 11,000.

hindi 11k yung 7870. nakalagya sa pc gilmore 16,990php. then i don't see the 7850 in the list.
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June 22, 2013 5:35:39 AM

jabuscus said:

we're not that rich to buy a high-end pc so i think we're strict in budget. about the i5, the non-k version. the 8320 is not in the list of processors but i can see an 8120. the 7870 is expensive.
sorry if the 8320 is not included and the 7870 is expensive because im from the philippines. some video cards and processors are expensive here. i hope you understand me. if i divided 30000 pesos to 44 pesos to get the price in dollars, i'd say that it's in $681.82

are you shopping from a website, by any chance? if yes, can you post a link? what is the full configuration?

i wasn't proposing high end parts and didn't know how prices were in philippines. that's why recommended parts based on u.s. prices and gaming performances alone.

cpus: if fx8320 isn't available, is fx6300 or fx6350 on the list?
since you're mentioning the core i5 3570 non-k version, imo it might be better to downgrade a bit to 3470 or 3550 if those are cheaper. if 3570, 3470, 3550 all are at the same price, the highest clocked one would be the best choice among these (3570, in this case).

gfx cards: geforce gtx 650ti boost, radeon hd 7850 available?
can you accomodate any of these, in your budget?
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June 22, 2013 5:40:34 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:

we're not that rich to buy a high-end pc so i think we're strict in budget. about the i5, the non-k version. the 8320 is not in the list of processors but i can see an 8120. the 7870 is expensive.
sorry if the 8320 is not included and the 7870 is expensive because im from the philippines. some video cards and processors are expensive here. i hope you understand me. if i divided 30000 pesos to 44 pesos to get the price in dollars, i'd say that it's in $681.82

are you shopping from a website, by any chance? if yes, can you post a link? what is the full configuration?

i wasn't proposing high end parts and didn't know how prices were in philippines. that's why recommended parts based on u.s. prices and gaming performances alone.

cpus: if fx8320 isn't available, is fx6300 or fx6350 on the list?
since you're mentioning the core i5 3570 non-k version, imo it might be better to downgrade a bit to 3470 or 3550 if those are cheaper. if 3570, 3470, 3550 all are at the same price, the highest clocked one would be the best choice among these (3570, in this case).

gfx cards: geforce gtx 650ti boost, radeon hd 7850 available?
can you accomodate any of these, in your budget?

http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=doityo... <---- here's the link.
no 650ti boost, no 7850 also. just check it in the link.
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June 22, 2013 7:02:09 AM

jabuscus said:
http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=doityo... <---- here's the link.
no 650ti boost, no 7850 also. just check it in the link.

that's a real tough set of lists to choose from.
is your 30,000peso budget for the whole pc (including monitor, hdd, case, and other peripherals) or just cpu+mobo+gfx card?
from the thread headline, your cpu+gfx card budget seems to top out at 19,000peso(a10 5800k+gtx660). using that as the limit,
core i5 3470+msi n660tf comes to 20390peso,
with fx8120, same gfx card - 19420peso, with fx6100 -17450peso.
personally, i don't like the parts available on that website, fx6300 and 7870xt woulda been better imo.
i hope someone else can post better parts for your budget..


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June 22, 2013 8:02:42 PM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:
http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=doityo... <---- here's the link.
no 650ti boost, no 7850 also. just check it in the link.

that's a real tough set of lists to choose from.
is your 30,000peso budget for the whole pc (including monitor, hdd, case, and other peripherals) or just cpu+mobo+gfx card?
from the thread headline, your cpu+gfx card budget seems to top out at 19,000peso(a10 5800k+gtx660). using that as the limit,
core i5 3470+msi n660tf comes to 20390peso,
with fx8120, same gfx card - 19420peso, with fx6100 -17450peso.
personally, i don't like the parts available on that website, fx6300 and 7870xt woulda been better imo.
i hope someone else can post better parts for your budget..



No monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. all i want was a cheap cpu good for gaming. Im thinking hard on what processor and video card to get. The rest are ok. All i just need is a processor and a vc. The rest are 8gb ram, asus p8h61-m lx3 motherboard, sony dvdrw (the 820 php), and a seagate 1tb 7200 rpm sata hdd. But wait, i5 plus the msi n660tf are a bit good for the price including the rest above. But, im thinking if that i5 and the n660 could make the crysis 3 work with no lag issues. So would that be a good one?
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June 22, 2013 9:43:18 PM

Yes boss it would be a good setup, no lags in medium setting.
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June 22, 2013 10:43:39 PM

jabuscus said:

No monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. all i want was a cheap cpu good for gaming. Im thinking hard on what processor and video card to get. The rest are ok. All i just need is a processor and a vc. The rest are 8gb ram, asus p8h61-m lx3 motherboard, sony dvdrw (the 820 php), and a seagate 1tb 7200 rpm sata hdd. But wait, i5 plus the msi n660tf are a bit good for the price including the rest above. But, im thinking if that i5 and the n660 could make the crysis 3 work with no lag issues. So would that be a good one?

did you buy the motherboard already?
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/#overview
it's specifications say it supports ram speed up to ddr3 1333, support for 3rd gen core cpus like core i5 3470 will need a bios update. i was thinking if you could accomodate a b75 mobo like this
http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=single...
as you can see, if you're building an intel pc, price doesn't go down...
in both motherboard's cases, you might need to update bios to supprt the i5 3470 as the cpu support lists state:
P8H61-M LX
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
P8B75-M LE
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
it'll depend on which bios revision the motherboard already has. you must be careful when you upgrade your motherboard's bios.

you didn't list what power supply you're using for the pc. i took a look at the psu choices at that site, those are pretty hard to choose from..
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June 23, 2013 2:19:40 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:

No monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. all i want was a cheap cpu good for gaming. Im thinking hard on what processor and video card to get. The rest are ok. All i just need is a processor and a vc. The rest are 8gb ram, asus p8h61-m lx3 motherboard, sony dvdrw (the 820 php), and a seagate 1tb 7200 rpm sata hdd. But wait, i5 plus the msi n660tf are a bit good for the price including the rest above. But, im thinking if that i5 and the n660 could make the crysis 3 work with no lag issues. So would that be a good one?

did you buy the motherboard already?
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/#overview
it's specifications say it supports ram speed up to ddr3 1333, support for 3rd gen core cpus like core i5 3470 will need a bios update. i was thinking if you could accomodate a b75 mobo like this
http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=single...
as you can see, if you're building an intel pc, price doesn't go down...
in both motherboard's cases, you might need to update bios to supprt the i5 3470 as the cpu support lists state:
P8H61-M LX
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
P8B75-M LE
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
it'll depend on which bios revision the motherboard already has. you must be careful when you upgrade your motherboard's bios.

you didn't list what power supply you're using for the pc. i took a look at the psu choices at that site, those are pretty hard to choose from..
i didn't buy the motherboard yet.so all i have to do is download the bios and update it right? but how?
is the psu is really needed?
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June 23, 2013 2:20:12 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:

No monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. all i want was a cheap cpu good for gaming. Im thinking hard on what processor and video card to get. The rest are ok. All i just need is a processor and a vc. The rest are 8gb ram, asus p8h61-m lx3 motherboard, sony dvdrw (the 820 php), and a seagate 1tb 7200 rpm sata hdd. But wait, i5 plus the msi n660tf are a bit good for the price including the rest above. But, im thinking if that i5 and the n660 could make the crysis 3 work with no lag issues. So would that be a good one?

did you buy the motherboard already?
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/#overview
it's specifications say it supports ram speed up to ddr3 1333, support for 3rd gen core cpus like core i5 3470 will need a bios update. i was thinking if you could accomodate a b75 mobo like this
http://www.pcgilmore.com.ph/controller.do?action=single...
as you can see, if you're building an intel pc, price doesn't go down...
in both motherboard's cases, you might need to update bios to supprt the i5 3470 as the cpu support lists state:
P8H61-M LX
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
P8B75-M LE
http://www.asus.com/support/Cpu/LatestBios.aspx?SLangua...
it'll depend on which bios revision the motherboard already has. you must be careful when you upgrade your motherboard's bios.

you didn't list what power supply you're using for the pc. i took a look at the psu choices at that site, those are pretty hard to choose from..
i didn't buy the motherboard yet.so all i have to do is download the bios and update it right? but how??
wait, ill change the casing with a psu, which is an orion arctic atx 600w psu. is that case ok?
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June 23, 2013 2:24:13 AM

jabuscus said:
i didn't buy the motherboard yet.so all i have to do is download the bios and update it right? but how?
is the psu is really needed?

yeah, updating the bios will have the mobo support the cpu. check the procedure on asus' website.

yes, the psu is important. if your current power supply is good, then you probably don't need a new one. but while you build this rather high performance pc, the psu should have to be good enough. a bad psu can harm the whole pc, cause instability etc.
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June 23, 2013 2:50:31 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:
i didn't buy the motherboard yet.so all i have to do is download the bios and update it right? but how?
is the psu is really needed?

yeah, updating the bios will have the mobo support the cpu. check the procedure on asus' website.

yes, the psu is important. if your current power supply is good, then you probably don't need a new one. but while you build this rather high performance pc, the psu should have to be good enough. a bad psu can harm the whole pc, cause instability etc.
what is the meaning of mobo, anyway? btw, i've changed the casing into an orion arctic atx 600w psu. is that case ok?

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June 23, 2013 2:58:24 AM

jabuscus said:
what is the meaning of mobo, anyway? btw, i've changed the casing into an orion arctic atx 600w psu. is that case ok?

ah, sorry. mobo is short for motherboard.
i can't find anything on orion's psu. to be honest, i didn't like the power supplies on the pcgilmore site. both huntkey and aerocool are known to sell poor quality power supplies, especially at lower budget level. can you buy a power supply like seasonic s12ii 520watt or xfx pro 550w or antec psu form another seller?
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June 23, 2013 4:09:27 AM

de5_Roy said:
jabuscus said:
what is the meaning of mobo, anyway? btw, i've changed the casing into an orion arctic atx 600w psu. is that case ok?

ah, sorry. mobo is short for motherboard.
i can't find anything on orion's psu. to be honest, i didn't like the power supplies on the pcgilmore site. both huntkey and aerocool are known to sell poor quality power supplies, especially at lower budget level. can you buy a power supply like seasonic s12ii 520watt or xfx pro 550w or antec psu form another seller?

what about a viking 3026 series atx 600w?
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June 23, 2013 4:13:17 AM

adimeister said:
Yes boss it would be a good setup, no lags in medium setting.

then what would be the good resolution for it?
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June 23, 2013 4:15:49 AM

jabuscus said:

what about a viking 3026 series atx 600w?

it seems like you're trying to save money by getting a case and bundled psu together.
google turned up very little about the case. but you should not cut corners on choosing power supply. case+psu bundles often come with cheap, low quality power supplies. however, i dunno about philippine's local psu brands.
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July 11, 2013 1:41:53 AM

Hi, I don't know if this forum's still ongoing but The HD 7850's about 8000HP here.
http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphic-cards-1/powercolor...

and I'd try looking at hits site: dynaquestpc.com/ (The site's still under renovation but Last time I saw it, there were more products to choose compared to Gilmore.)

and by the way, If you plan on using that kind of graphics card I'd suggest you go buy atleast a certified 80+ to 80+ Gold Power supply (There were a lot of people in the community whose had trouble with their unit and worse "KABOOM!"(Well, I have read them from some forums but I have also heard that they would just die down silently) and that Orion PSU is also a generic one.)
So for safety's sake here:
The HD 7770 requires atleast 500W - 650W( Please check the specs: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/78...)

If you're on a budget try this one: http://pcx.com.ph/components/power-supplies/fsp-raider-...

If you can afford a 80+Gold power supply then try this one: http://pcx.com.ph/components/power-supplies/fsp-aurum-s...

I saw some reviews about both PSUs and performed quite nicely.

sites:
FSP Raider: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FSP-Raider-650-W...

FSP GOLD : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FSP-Aurum-Gold-7...

Good Luck! (I too live in the Philippines)./gg

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