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Ivy bridge vs Haswell build help!!

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June 22, 2013 9:51:37 AM

Hi guys.

I have a dilemma I don’t know whether to go for Haswell or Ivy according to many review there is only a 6% - 10% percent performance increase and is this increase worth $40 = R 400. I don’t know pls help clarify.
I am going to use this rig for gaming and Autocad and solid works. I will be overclocking.

Ivy Bridge
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPower, LGA1155, Intel Z77
Ram: G.Skill, RipjawsX with heatsink, 8GB (2x 4GB), DDR3 1600, CL9
PSU: Corsair VS650, 650w (12v : 600w)
Case: NZXT Phantom Gunmetal Full Tower
R 8210.00 approx $ 810.00

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Haswell
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H
Ram: G.Skill, RipjawsX with heatsink, 8GB (2x 4GB), DDR3 1600, CL9
PSU: Corsair VS650, 650w (12v : 600w)
Case: NZXT Phantom Gunmetal Full Tower
Cost R 8577.00 approx $ 850.00

I already have a gpu: 2gb HD7870 xfx core edition, external DVD burner, working on an open loop Windows 7 Ultimate and 8 Pro and a monitor and 3 x 1tb WD blue. Which would be the best OS to use on my new rig.
June 22, 2013 10:00:49 AM

I would go with the Haswell. Won't be able to upgrade the Ivy option down the road, LGA 1155 is not going to see any new releases.

The extra money will get you on a platform that will last you a longer time/more upgrade options in the future.

It is worth it in a new build to go with the newest technology.
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June 22, 2013 10:01:32 AM

Ivy vs. Haswell, the main thing to think about is whether or not you want the option to upgrade in the future. Socket 1155 is basically dead now, whereas Haswell is the first 1150 CPU. If you want to upgrade later on, go with Haswell and 1150.

As for Windows 7 vs 8, there isn't any performance difference between them, however I find 7 more user friendly on non-touch screens. Windows 8 is great on tablets and phones, but I find it very clunky on a desktop (and yes I have used windows 8 on a desktop). Since your looking at productivity, unless you are used to Windows 8, I'd choose Windows 7.
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June 22, 2013 10:04:07 AM

With IB not having come down appreciably in price, and Haswell boasting a new instruction set and better pipelines (which indicate that the slight rift between IB and Haswell performancemight just grow a tad over time), I'd go Haswell. With a tiny price difference, why go second best? Neither one's an OC beast, but at least Haswell chips are soldered into their thermal encasements. IB used crappy TIM in between the heat spreading cap and the actual silicon. It COULD dry out over time, with the right amount of heat.
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June 22, 2013 10:08:18 AM

Don't worry about the upgrade path, LGA 1150 will only see Broadwell upgrades which will not be worth it at all (and there are rumors that many of the Broadwell CPUs will be soldered rather than socketed).

The biggest difference is in motherboard features. Z87 has more SATA3 and USB3.0 than Z77. Haswell in itself is also an upgrade, though only a tiny one once overclocking is taken into account.

Havel Parenko said:
With IB not having come down appreciably in price, and Haswell boasting a new instruction set and better pipelines (which indicate that the slight rift between IB and Haswell performancemight just grow a tad over time), I'd go Haswell. With a tiny price difference, why go second best? Neither one's an OC beast, but at least Haswell was chips are soldered into their thermal encasements. IB used crappy TIM in between the heat spreadeing cap and the actual silicon. It COULD dry out over time, with the right amount of heat.

Haswell uses TIM just like Ivy Bridge. And it has been shown that the TIM is actually high quality, it's just applied in too thick a layer.
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June 22, 2013 10:30:16 AM

Sakkura said:
Don't worry about the upgrade path, LGA 1150 will only see Broadwell upgrades which will not be worth it at all (and there are rumors that many of the Broadwell CPUs will be soldered rather than socketed).

The biggest difference is in motherboard features. Z87 has more SATA3 and USB3.0 than Z77. Haswell in itself is also an upgrade, though only a tiny one once overclocking is taken into account.

Havel Parenko said:
With IB not having come down appreciably in price, and Haswell boasting a new instruction set and better pipelines (which indicate that the slight rift between IB and Haswell performancemight just grow a tad over time), I'd go Haswell. With a tiny price difference, why go second best? Neither one's an OC beast, but at least Haswell was chips are soldered into their thermal encasements. IB used crappy TIM in between the heat spreadeing cap and the actual silicon. It COULD dry out over time, with the right amount of heat.

Haswell uses TIM just like Ivy Bridge. And it has been shown that the TIM is actually high quality, it's just applied in too thick a layer.


Then I was misinformed. My mistake.
Now that you mention it, I remember hearing that with the die shrink, the IB die was a hair smaller than they had anticipated when the designed SB. Maybe they just had to use more because of that (???)
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June 22, 2013 10:46:37 AM

^ You are thinking of CPU versions that will be SOLDERED onto the Motherboard, meaning that upgradeability goes out the window for replacing the CPU.
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July 2, 2013 10:50:27 AM

Okay looks like I will be going with haswell. Is there any thing in the build I should change.
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July 2, 2013 11:54:57 AM

Sakkura said:
Don't worry about the upgrade path, LGA 1150 will only see Broadwell upgrades which will not be worth it at all (and there are rumors that many of the Broadwell CPUs will be soldered rather than socketed).

The biggest difference is in motherboard features. Z87 has more SATA3 and USB3.0 than Z77. Haswell in itself is also an upgrade, though only a tiny one once overclocking is taken into account.

Havel Parenko said:
With IB not having come down appreciably in price, and Haswell boasting a new instruction set and better pipelines (which indicate that the slight rift between IB and Haswell performancemight just grow a tad over time), I'd go Haswell. With a tiny price difference, why go second best? Neither one's an OC beast, but at least Haswell was chips are soldered into their thermal encasements. IB used crappy TIM in between the heat spreadeing cap and the actual silicon. It COULD dry out over time, with the right amount of heat.

Haswell uses TIM just like Ivy Bridge. And it has been shown that the TIM is actually high quality, it's just applied in too thick a layer.


OEM's like dell will see BGA. Skylake will be on LGA

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