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High end rig. is it compatible?

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June 23, 2013 11:02:47 AM

getting my first gaming pc and I got a really good price on this system. (better than if I were to build it myself)
Intel® LGA1155 Core i5-3570K
Crucial DDR3 BallistiX 1600Mhz 16GB KIT
Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series 128GB BULK
EVGA GeForce GTX690 4GB GDDR5 PCI-E
MSI Z77A-G43, Socket-1155
Samsung DVD±RW SH-224BB/BEBE SATA BLACK
Intel® Liquid Cooling LGA1155-LGA2011
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU
Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl

Are there any major drawbacks to this system? Will I be ably to fully utilize the very high end gpu?
And would I be able to do some good oc'ing with this cooler and mobo?

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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM

Well, you kinda have to tell us what you're going to be using it FOR in order for us to tell you if you can use the 690 well. It's a waste on a 60Hz, 1080p screen, but for other uses could be very useful.

Aside from having 16GB of RAM instead of 8GB, and not having a hard drive (you can pick up a 1TB western digital blue for $70), it's a very well thought out computer. Is this a prebuilt, or a used rig?
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:14:21 AM

TheBigTroll said:
its not balanced. id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19qHn

-change the psu to the xfx 850w if you plan on running 2 cards in the future


I highly, highly disagree... you say that a 3570k with a 690 isn't balanced, but encourage him to plan on going with two 780s and a 3470k? The 3570k is actually faster when you're pushing the chip's overclocks, the 690 is more than enough muscle, and he appears to be getting it for a fair discount, so he can't just change the parts... that means that the rig you suggest, while good, is going to be slower on processing and slower on graphics (till he gets a second 780), but probably more expensive.
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June 23, 2013 11:16:09 AM

That is a nice rig but there are quite a few things I'd change. First of alll, you don't need 16gb of RAM in a gaming PC (8gb is adequate), and secondly, you have an old processor in that computer - the 3570k has been replaced by the new 4670k.
Lastly, that GPU is not as good as two GTX 770s in SLI.

Here is a comparison of the GTX 690 vs 2x 680s in SLI and since the 770 outperforms the 680, the margin of the win will be even greater...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Z3pHVw7ek
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a b U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:19:02 AM

DarkSable said:
TheBigTroll said:
its not balanced. id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19qHn

-change the psu to the xfx 850w if you plan on running 2 cards in the future


I highly, highly disagree... you say that a 3570k with a 690 isn't balanced, but encourage him to plan on going with two 780s and a 3470k? The 3570k is actually faster when you're pushing the chip's overclocks, the 690 is more than enough muscle, and he appears to be getting it for a fair discount, so he can't just change the parts... that means that the rig you suggest, while good, is going to be slower on processing and slower on graphics (till he gets a second 780), but probably more expensive.


i was talking about the fact that he has a low end board coupled with the one of the fastest GPUs out there.

i in no way was encouraging him to get 2 780s. I only said that if he wants to have the ability to run 2 cards in the future he can get a bigger psu
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a b U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:19:39 AM

King Hackintosh said:
That is a nice rig but there are quite a few things I'd change. First of alll, you don't need 16gb of RAM in a gaming PC (8gb is adequate), and secondly, you have an old processor in that computer - the 3570k has been replaced by the new 4670k.
Lastly, that GPU is not as good as two GTX 770s in SLI.

Here is a comparison of the GTX 690 vs 2x 680s in SLI and since the 770 outperforms the 680, the margin of the win will be even greater...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Z3pHVw7ek



I agree I'd rather get a 700 series card. But the 3570k hasnt been replaced except for stock voltage OC... Beyond that point the 3570k pulls back and wins out again, It handles voltage increases far better the the Haswell set.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:24:40 AM

Ahh, sorry, I missed the motherboard - you're right about that. (Though there's never really a need for something like a sabertooth.)

I'm thinking what it comes down to is just how much of a discount the OP would get on this computer vs building something himself - it sounded fairly significant to me, which would make it a no-brainer... but if not, then other options would, of course, be better.

(And King Hackintosh, just throwing out there since you haven't run across it yet; when overclocking more than moderately, (i.e. from the point you begin to push the chips) ivy bridge actually comes out as faster than haswell.)
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June 23, 2013 11:33:48 AM

the thing is that I cant really change too much as this rig is pre-configured. the reason for me wanting to buy this is the price. if not I would just build one myself. I was wondering if the comp in it's current state is "good" and not bottlenecked in any way shape or form. As for use I'm going to be playing upcoming high demanding games on one monitor (1080p 120hz)
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a b U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:34:42 AM

I completely missed that this would be a pre-built. Whats the price your being asked on? Thats really the only thing that says whether or not this is worthwhile. It a pretty dominating machine anyway, so whats the cost :p 
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June 23, 2013 11:37:00 AM

I'm planning on putting in a wd black 1tb and another 250 gb ssd. and also if necessary change out the cpu cooler if i dont get good temps. the discount is significant. the pc is prebuilt by a company but never picked up by the customer so it has a 3 guarantee
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June 23, 2013 11:38:19 AM

im in norway (comps and parts are expensive) but i think it would translate to around 1500 usd if i was in the us
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June 23, 2013 11:38:40 AM

between 1500-2000 usd
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:42:10 AM

That's an incredible deal for that machine. Buy it, now. :p 

That being said, you probably won't have to switch out the cooler unless you're doing very heavy overclocking.

Why are you buying such expensive storage? A 1TB western digital blue is all that you need; remember that most games get absolutely no benefit from being on an SSD, so the 256GB ssd would be somewhat pointless.
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June 23, 2013 11:43:36 AM

Get a Seagate Barracuda 1tb and you are set... What a great deal you are getting!
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June 23, 2013 11:50:37 AM

thanks for advice. the only thing im worried about now is the case. (airflow)
the case comes stock with only a front intake and back exhaust but has room for a side fan and two top fans. does anyone know what kind of configuration is the best for airflow in this case? new here should i make a separate thread?
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June 23, 2013 11:55:30 AM

halli007 said:
thanks for advice. the only thing im worried about now is the case. (airflow)
the case comes stock with only a front intake and back exhaust but has room for a side fan and two top fans. does anyone know what kind of configuration is the best for airflow in this case? new here should i make a separate thread?


I'd recommend putting in as many fans as you can get to keep the temps down in such a high end system. I'd suggest putting 2 exhaust fans on top, and an intake fan on the side for sure. This should be able to keep the temps down in your system :) 
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 23, 2013 11:59:13 AM

King Hackintosh said:
I'd recommend putting in as many fans as you can get to keep the temps down in such a high end system. I'd suggest putting 2 exhaust fans on top, and an intake fan on the side for sure. This should be able to keep the temps down in your system :) 


Trouble with that is noise - you have to balance the airflow and the noise level. (For example, a side intake will make a lot of noise, but won't give hardly any benefit except for a crossfire configuration.)

OP, you don't need MANY fans, just good ones. Have as large and as powerful a front intake as you can, and then a slightly weaker back exhaust. (The top doesn't need it, as hot air rises.) Keep the soundproofing on the side, but remove it from the top vents.
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June 23, 2013 12:04:01 PM

thanks for all advice probably gonna order it an hdd, and fans
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June 23, 2013 12:17:39 PM

Don't forget to choose a Best Solution when you open a thread, the forum members appreciate that.
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