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June 23, 2013 12:00:21 PM

At the moment I got a crappy Geforce 210 and I'm looking to get something else.
I don't need something ultra good, just something a bit better than the 210 so I can play my current games on higher fps since they seem a bit laggy now and then.

I know there are tons of models out there but 2 GPU's catched my eye, and since my knowledge on GPU's is limited I would like some advice.

How much of an improvement would an HD 6670 be over the 210?
And how much of an improvement would a Geforce GTS 250 be over the 210?
The GTS 250 that I saw has 512mb of dedicated memory instead of 1gb. Does this have a severe impact on performance?

I named the 2 cards above because I can get them for a very nice price, but if there are cards much better than the above for a comparable price. I'd love to hear.
Once again I'm not looking for very expensive cards to play the latest games, just a card that will improve my current fps.

Thanks in advance.

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June 23, 2013 12:17:52 PM

Graphic cards can be one of the most power hungry of all components. So be sure your PSU is up to the task. The HD 6670 you spec'd out is not power hungry though. Almost any card that doesn't require a separate power cable to feed it, will run fine with all but the tiniest PSUs. The GTS 250 is a bit more power hungry and will require a bigger PSU and a separate power connection. Use this chart to compare graphic cards depending on the usage in mind: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU13/583

What resolution is your monitor? The greater the resolution, the more work the card has to do to provide fast frame rates. And what is your budget?
June 23, 2013 2:38:51 PM

Thanks for the advice.
Is a Geforce 9800 GT 512mb better than an Asus Radeon HD 6670 1GB for gaming?
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June 24, 2013 7:52:21 AM

clutchc said:
Yes, the 9800 GT will outperform the HD 6670.
http://www.hwcompare.com/10931/geforce-9800-gt-512mb-vs...

The amount of VRAM needed is dependent on your monitor's resolution. That's why I asked.


Hmm, are you sure that the 9800GT performs better than the HD 6670?
Because I watched some benchmarks and gameplay video's. The HD 6670 seems to play very smoothly where the 9800GT can often lag.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=450&gid2=1...
June 24, 2013 8:00:52 AM

The two are pretty similar, but the GTS250 you mentioned is considerably faster. Too much power draw for your liking?
June 24, 2013 8:04:08 AM

sam_p_lay said:
The two are pretty similar, but the GTS250 you mentioned is considerably faster. Too much power draw for your liking?


The problem is that I have no idea how much watts my power supply is.
No sticker whatsoever..

On a sidenote, you say that they are pretty similiar.
How is this? I have no idea how to look at a video card's quality but I see that the 6670 has much higher texel / pixel rates for example, whatever that may do in performance.
June 24, 2013 8:17:04 AM

Benchmarks. Performance is measured in frames per second and that equates very closely to how smooth/responsive gameplay looks and feels. Estimating performance based on things like texture fillrate is akin to judging a car's speed based purely on horsepower. Why estimate when you have an actual 0-60 time? In the same way, why estimate a GPU's performance when you can look directly at the results (i.e. frames per second).
June 24, 2013 10:27:21 AM

Tom's rates the HD 6670 and GT 9800 in the same tier for gaming: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
But make sure you are comparing the HD 6670 with GDDR5 VRAM, not the one with GDDR3. The older model may have been what HWCompare was rating.

All PSUs have to have a spec sticker on them. (At least here in the US) Yours may be facing the wrong way to see. Let me ask you this; does it even have a single PCIe power cable?
June 24, 2013 10:54:05 AM

There is a huge collection of cables going out of the psu and lots of connectors. Which one is the pcie connector? What does it look like?
June 24, 2013 10:57:50 AM

It would look like one of these: http://techreport.com/r.x/psus-0907/pcie-connectors.jpg

If you are going to use any graphics card that needs more power than the PCIe X16 slot alone provides, you will need to know the size of your PSU. And preferably the make/model of it and the rating of the +12V rail(s).
June 24, 2013 11:14:15 AM

clutchc said:
It would look like one of these: http://techreport.com/r.x/psus-0907/pcie-connectors.jpg

If you are going to use any graphics card that needs more power than the PCIe X16 slot alone provides, you will need to know the size of your PSU. And preferably the make/model of it and the rating of the +12V rail(s).


I don't have one of those connectors.
Would I need one for an 8800gt like this?
http://tinypic.com/r/33v2r6t/5
June 24, 2013 11:22:55 AM

You won't if it doesn't have a 6-pin power connector on the end of the card.

This is the most powerful card I know of that does not require a PCIe power cable: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650E1GD5/
The GTX 650 is rated at 65W TDP.
June 24, 2013 11:39:06 AM

clutchc said:
You won't if it doesn't have a 6-pin power connector on the end of the card.

This is the most powerful card I know of that does not require a PCIe power cable: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650E1GD5/
The GTX 650 is rated at 65W TDP.


So an 8800GT wouldn't work like my Geforce 210 does by just plugging it in?
Thanks for telling me, I almost ended up buying one.
So, is there a video card that has basically the same performance like an 8800gt, and is in the same pricerange? I'm really looking for a simple low budget card. No super card.
Oh and how do I find out which cards need to be connected to a PCI-E connector first?

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June 24, 2013 12:00:34 PM
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Any card that has a 6 or 8 pin connector (usually on the end opposite from the mounting bracket), will need to have that connector powered before the card will function.
Example 1: http://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1924799/7.jpg
Example 2: http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gts-250/gts-250-plug....

The HD 6670 is of comparable gaming power to the 8800GT but newer and does it with less heat. Use the hierarchy chart I linked you to for relative comparisons.
June 24, 2013 12:00:55 PM

EDIT: Thanks for the info. I get it now.
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