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6/24/13 newegg combo cpu and mobo which one do i get? HELP!

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June 24, 2013 2:09:27 PM

hello everyone. i will be getting the 4670k cpu and newegg has a combo deal with motherboards and cpus. im wondering which one i should get. im on a budget and will be doing gaming on the computer its my first build/pc. i wont be oc right off but i would like to have the option if i decide to later down the road. im leaning more towards the msi g45. if someone could give me some advice and tell me which one is the best and why i would greatly appreciate it. i also have a black and red color scheme which goes great with the g45 but thats a minor issue. here is the web page for the promotion http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/13-2602/index.html all opinions welcomed!

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June 24, 2013 2:15:59 PM

That combo is listed as sold out.. personally, I'd go with the Asrock.:D 
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June 24, 2013 2:17:02 PM

I'd go, in order, the Rock mobo, the GigaByte or the Asus.....wouldn't touch the MSI, the ROCK are great mobos, I use them more than Asus or GB on builds, more bang for the buck and they last....Asus and GB are also great mobos, and tend to cost more

Doesn't show as sold out at the moment
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June 24, 2013 2:18:35 PM

clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out..


you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error
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June 24, 2013 2:19:53 PM

i'd go with the ASUS, just because i've been a fan for 15 years.
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June 24, 2013 2:21:33 PM

dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out..


you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error

I'd still go with the Asrock...:D 
Just went to the Newegg product page for the MSI board, & it says "not available", combo or not.:pfff: 

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June 24, 2013 2:21:54 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I'd go, in order, the Rock mobo, the GigaByte or the Asus.....wouldn't touch the MSI, the ROCK are great mobos, I use them more than Asus or GB on builds, more bang for the buck and they last....Asus and GB are also great mobos, and tend to cost more

Doesn't show as sold out at the moment


why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them.

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June 24, 2013 2:23:38 PM

clarkjd said:
dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out..


you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error

I'd still go with the Asrock



msi just cheaply made or something?
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June 24, 2013 2:23:50 PM

Hi nothing wrong with that MSI board, If you are not an extreme overclocker the G45 would be a perfect board and it looks great. You get everything you need and can OC in the Future.

Have Fun
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June 24, 2013 2:25:33 PM

dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out..


you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error

I'd still go with the Asrock



msi just cheaply made or something?


MSI had some issues on some AMD board cooking their VRM's. That was YEARS ago for AMD. Quality of these boards is great. They were also caught overvolting GPU's for more stability...

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June 24, 2013 2:26:42 PM

dylanthedude said:
why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them.



MSI makes very unreliable motherboards... not only are they unreliable and cheap, but they tend to have some pretty crappy overclocking results.

Solid GPU maker, not so good mb maker... that's not to say they never make good mbs... just that it's very hit or miss. I usually find the premium you pay for Asus MBs is worth it. That said, Asrock makes some good intel mbs (i wouldn't touch one of their amd boards with a 10ft pole)
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June 24, 2013 2:39:11 PM

Every Z87 board I have personally seen, and I assemble systems, has been of exceptional quality that I had only previously seen in High end boards like the MIVE, MVE. I have never had an MSI board fail in the last 2 years for any client (OK to be fair I havn't had ANY boards fail since I started building Ivy). The Toms roundup of Z87 boards sums things up nicely, they are all almost exactly the same performance wise, although it is the GD65 (1 step up)

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June 24, 2013 2:47:46 PM

funguseater said:
Hi nothing wrong with that MSI board, If you are not an extreme overclocker the G45 would be a perfect board and it looks great. You get everything you need and can OC in the Future.

Have Fun
Fungi


funguseater said:
Every Z87 board I have personally seen, and I assemble systems, has been of exceptional quality that I had only previously seen in High end boards like the MIVE, MVE. I have never had an MSI board fail in the last 2 years for any client (OK to be fair I havn't had ANY boards fail since I started building Ivy). The Toms roundup of Z87 boards sums things up nicely, they are all almost exactly the same performance wise, although it is the GD65 (1 step up)

Fungi


how big of a difference is there between the gd65 and g45? would it be worth it to get the gd65?
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June 24, 2013 2:49:02 PM

ingtar33 said:
dylanthedude said:
why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them.



MSI makes very unreliable motherboards... not only are they unreliable and cheap, but they tend to have some pretty crappy overclocking results.

Solid GPU maker, not so good mb maker... that's not to say they never make good mbs... just that it's very hit or miss. I usually find the premium you pay for Asus MBs is worth it. That said, Asrock makes some good intel mbs (i wouldn't touch one of their amd boards with a 10ft pole)


if ocing isnt a big deal to me and price and stock performance are would msi be a fair choice?
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June 24, 2013 3:06:25 PM

That MSI G45 board is perfect for stock performance, and can give you a boost next year by overclocking. The G65 is geared toward overclocking and more extreme SLI (quadfire and such) You will get all the performance you need with the G45. Just out of curiosity what GPU are you using?
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June 24, 2013 3:27:53 PM

I went with the MSI, but it's sold out now. Not really a big MSI fan but I saved $90 on the mobo. My second choice would be the Gigabyte. I wouldn't hesitate on the Asrock either.
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June 24, 2013 3:41:36 PM

For me, it's overall quality and QC, their sales have been slipping since 2010 (so others are seeing this also), the Rock passed them to become # 3 in 2011 and continues to climb in sales as does GigaByte, Asus boards are still great but their sales have been slipping to GB and the Rock
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June 24, 2013 3:55:28 PM

funguseater said:
That MSI G45 board is perfect for stock performance, and can give you a boost next year by overclocking. The G65 is geared toward overclocking and more extreme SLI (quadfire and such) You will get all the performance you need with the G45. Just out of curiosity what GPU are you using?


I haven't picked a GPU yet. Do you have any recommendations?
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June 24, 2013 4:01:31 PM

I don't know your budget or games preference, but high end I would go GTX770 midrange I would pick a 650ti boost as it matches my 480 performance and I know that still rocks. I probably wouldnt go lower than that for gaming.

Gotta head out on a call, good luck with the purchase and have fun
Fungi
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June 24, 2013 4:07:40 PM

Thought the GD65 was Tri SLI/Xfire not quad
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June 24, 2013 4:14:23 PM

KnowItAll said:
I went with the MSI, but it's sold out now. Not really a big MSI fan but I saved $90 on the mobo. My second choice would be the Gigabyte. I wouldn't hesitate on the Asrock either.


Are you happy with your MSI? If I'm not oc is MSI just as good as the others?
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June 24, 2013 5:48:16 PM

My mistake GD65 is tri SLI. Your OC is going to be limited by the thermals of your CPU most of the time with IVY/Haswell it is very simple to quickly overclock to 4- 4.2, but to go higher you would need not just a better motherboard bu better cooling, maybe remove the lid of the CPU (I use the vise and hammer trick on IVY's, no one has wanted a delidded haswell yet) Most of these boards will have similar overclocking headroom as the VRM have moved onto the CPU die, except for very high end boards designed for overvolting extreme amounts ... MPOWER, ROG, WS with extreme cooling.

The GD45 board is perfect for single GPU system
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June 24, 2013 6:10:31 PM

funguseater said:
My mistake GD65 is tri SLI. Your OC is going to be limited by the thermals of your CPU most of the time with IVY/Haswell it is very simple to quickly overclock to 4- 4.2, but to go higher you would need not just a better motherboard bu better cooling, maybe remove the lid of the CPU (I use the vise and hammer trick on IVY's, no one has wanted a delidded haswell yet) Most of these boards will have similar overclocking headroom as the VRM have moved onto the CPU die, except for very high end boards designed for overvolting extreme amounts ... MPOWER, ROG, WS with extreme cooling.

The GD45 board is perfect for single GPU system


seems like they were right... the g45 is sold out and the combo doesnt work for the gd65... so now im at asus or rock. who has better audio? will the integrated graphics on the cpu work with the motherboard? cause it will be weeks before i can afford a separate gpu for this build. also will the integrated graphics run games such as lol diablo torchlight2 and maybe a few rts here and there. also, asus makes a point to talk about their wifi and bluetooth features.. does the rock wifi and bluetooth ready? thanks
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June 24, 2013 6:11:50 PM

Better hurry
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June 24, 2013 6:15:26 PM

i would like to be able to play a few less demanding games (lol, torchlight, diablo, some other rts games) before i purchase a dedicated gpu because this mb combo is killing my funds and i wont be able to get the gpu until after i get ram hdd sdd optical drive but i want to be able to play around until then.
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June 24, 2013 6:19:17 PM

oh and i have 5 case fans that i want to run off of my mobo and i want to have really good control of them because my haf-x(case) does not have a fan control on it(only downside of this case) so i want really good control of ALL fans through my mobo. thanks
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June 24, 2013 6:24:16 PM

Just thinking if the others sold out the rest might also
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June 24, 2013 6:29:18 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Just thinking if the others sold out the rest might also


good point. did you see my posts from a few minutes ago? are you familiar with any of that? thanks
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June 24, 2013 6:38:59 PM

Been checking in, but not sure if any have a utility for monitoring all fan headers on the Mobo, I believe Asus might, but haven't really looked into others
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June 24, 2013 6:51:16 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Been checking in, but not sure if any have a utility for monitoring all fan headers on the Mobo, I believe Asus might, but haven't really looked into others


and what about the integrated graphics?
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June 24, 2013 6:54:42 PM

It will run most all games, not at ultra high settings of course - and if you have another PC might be able to use a number of the components from there until you get your newer ones
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June 24, 2013 7:07:54 PM

Tradesman1 said:
It will run most all games, not at ultra high settings of course - and if you have another PC might be able to use a number of the components from there until you get your newer ones


awesome! will both mobo support the integrated graphics ? will one mobo from my choices listed support the integrated graphics better than another?
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June 24, 2013 7:16:05 PM

Both CPUs use the Intel 4600 Graphics - not sure if either mobo actually 'supports' it better than the other
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June 24, 2013 7:19:33 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Both CPUs use the Intel 4600 Graphics - not sure if either mobo actually 'supports' it better than the other


okay so now whats the difference between i7 and i5 as far as gaming goes? could i expect a big difference? talking about haswell btw
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June 24, 2013 7:26:11 PM

Unless you use multi-threaded apps (and not trying to be a smart a**, but if you have questions about multi threading, then more than likely you don't. This is just a matter of most folks don't know, and I hate to see people basically waste money, the extra $100 or so could go to a better GPU, DRAM, SSD or elsewhere, you have no need for the 4770K, the 4670K will more than suffice
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June 24, 2013 7:32:39 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Unless you use multi-threaded apps (and not trying to be a smart a**, but if you have questions about multi threading, then more than likely you don't. This is just a matter of most folks don't know, and I hate to see people basically waste money, the extra $100 or so could go to a better GPU, DRAM, SSD or elsewhere, you have no need for the 4770K, the 4670K will more than suffice


thanks for the info. so back to the situation at hand hah mobo.. which one?


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June 24, 2013 7:38:59 PM

Did you recently post in the mobo section? about Asus or the Rock EX6/wireless? If so my bid is to the Rock, it's a great mobo, you get 'N' wireless, they OC great, handle DRAM great, lots of USB, SATA<, PCI-E
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June 24, 2013 7:42:43 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Did you recently post in the mobo section? about Asus or the Rock EX6/wireless? If so my bid is to the Rock, it's a great mobo, you get 'N' wireless, they OC great, handle DRAM great, lots of USB, SATA<, PCI-E


sounds great. why would someone get asus? is it just the name?
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June 24, 2013 7:53:28 PM

Asus still has great mobos, I still use them fairly often and same with Gigabyte, have just followed ASRock , especially since they broke away from Asus, and they have just steadily increased product quality, QC, support, etc...also on a few occasions I've been in contact provided input on needs in the BIOS for hi end sticks(especially 32GB sets and they've taken it in and updated their BIOSs so they would work correctly (and it wan't a months long wait, we are talking about a week or less on the last time. Example on my Z77 I picked up the EX4 as a play mobo when I got a pre-release 3570K, and figured later I would move up to the EX^ or possibly the Fatal1ty Pro, and I'm still on the 4, it takes everything I throw at it (and that's a lot)
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June 24, 2013 7:56:20 PM

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