6/24/13 newegg combo cpu and mobo which one do i get? HELP!
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:09:27 PM
hello everyone. i will be getting the 4670k cpu and newegg has a combo deal with motherboards and cpus. im wondering which one i should get. im on a budget and will be doing gaming on the computer its my first build/pc. i wont be oc right off but i would like to have the option if i decide to later down the road. im leaning more towards the msi g45. if someone could give me some advice and tell me which one is the best and why i would greatly appreciate it. i also have a black and red color scheme which goes great with the g45 but thats a minor issue. here is the web page for the promotion http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/13-2602/index.html all opinions welcomed!
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:18:35 PM
dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out.. you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error
I'd still go with the Asrock...
Just went to the Newegg product page for the MSI board, & it says "not available", combo or not.
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:21:54 PM
Tradesman1 said:
I'd go, in order, the Rock mobo, the GigaByte or the Asus.....wouldn't touch the MSI, the ROCK are great mobos, I use them more than Asus or GB on builds, more bang for the buck and they last....Asus and GB are also great mobos, and tend to cost moreDoesn't show as sold out at the moment
why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them.
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:23:38 PM
dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
dylanthedude said:
clarkjd said:
That combo is listed as sold out.. you are right but if you click on it then go to the combo from there it says in-stock.. i think its just a newegg error
I'd still go with the Asrock
msi just cheaply made or something?
MSI had some issues on some AMD board cooking their VRM's. That was YEARS ago for AMD. Quality of these boards is great. They were also caught overvolting GPU's for more stability...
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dylanthedude said:
why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them. MSI makes very unreliable motherboards... not only are they unreliable and cheap, but they tend to have some pretty crappy overclocking results.
Solid GPU maker, not so good mb maker... that's not to say they never make good mbs... just that it's very hit or miss. I usually find the premium you pay for Asus MBs is worth it. That said, Asrock makes some good intel mbs (i wouldn't touch one of their amd boards with a 10ft pole)
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Every Z87 board I have personally seen, and I assemble systems, has been of exceptional quality that I had only previously seen in High end boards like the MIVE, MVE. I have never had an MSI board fail in the last 2 years for any client (OK to be fair I havn't had ANY boards fail since I started building Ivy). The Toms roundup of Z87 boards sums things up nicely, they are all almost exactly the same performance wise, although it is the GD65 (1 step up)
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:47:46 PM
funguseater said:
Hi nothing wrong with that MSI board, If you are not an extreme overclocker the G45 would be a perfect board and it looks great. You get everything you need and can OC in the Future.Have Fun
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funguseater said:
Every Z87 board I have personally seen, and I assemble systems, has been of exceptional quality that I had only previously seen in High end boards like the MIVE, MVE. I have never had an MSI board fail in the last 2 years for any client (OK to be fair I havn't had ANY boards fail since I started building Ivy). The Toms roundup of Z87 boards sums things up nicely, they are all almost exactly the same performance wise, although it is the GD65 (1 step up)Fungi
how big of a difference is there between the gd65 and g45? would it be worth it to get the gd65?
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 2:49:02 PM
ingtar33 said:
dylanthedude said:
why not msi? what does the rock have that the others dont? its pretty much between the rock and msi at this point. gb seems just okay and asus seems like im paying a premium which is why i dont really care for them. MSI makes very unreliable motherboards... not only are they unreliable and cheap, but they tend to have some pretty crappy overclocking results.
Solid GPU maker, not so good mb maker... that's not to say they never make good mbs... just that it's very hit or miss. I usually find the premium you pay for Asus MBs is worth it. That said, Asrock makes some good intel mbs (i wouldn't touch one of their amd boards with a 10ft pole)
if ocing isnt a big deal to me and price and stock performance are would msi be a fair choice?
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KnowItAll
June 24, 2013 3:27:53 PM
dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 3:55:28 PM
funguseater said:
That MSI G45 board is perfect for stock performance, and can give you a boost next year by overclocking. The G65 is geared toward overclocking and more extreme SLI (quadfire and such) You will get all the performance you need with the G45. Just out of curiosity what GPU are you using?I haven't picked a GPU yet. Do you have any recommendations?
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 4:14:23 PM
My mistake GD65 is tri SLI. Your OC is going to be limited by the thermals of your CPU most of the time with IVY/Haswell it is very simple to quickly overclock to 4- 4.2, but to go higher you would need not just a better motherboard bu better cooling, maybe remove the lid of the CPU (I use the vise and hammer trick on IVY's, no one has wanted a delidded haswell yet) Most of these boards will have similar overclocking headroom as the VRM have moved onto the CPU die, except for very high end boards designed for overvolting extreme amounts ... MPOWER, ROG, WS with extreme cooling.
The GD45 board is perfect for single GPU system
The GD45 board is perfect for single GPU system
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:10:31 PM
funguseater said:
My mistake GD65 is tri SLI. Your OC is going to be limited by the thermals of your CPU most of the time with IVY/Haswell it is very simple to quickly overclock to 4- 4.2, but to go higher you would need not just a better motherboard bu better cooling, maybe remove the lid of the CPU (I use the vise and hammer trick on IVY's, no one has wanted a delidded haswell yet) Most of these boards will have similar overclocking headroom as the VRM have moved onto the CPU die, except for very high end boards designed for overvolting extreme amounts ... MPOWER, ROG, WS with extreme cooling.The GD45 board is perfect for single GPU system
seems like they were right... the g45 is sold out and the combo doesnt work for the gd65... so now im at asus or rock. who has better audio? will the integrated graphics on the cpu work with the motherboard? cause it will be weeks before i can afford a separate gpu for this build. also will the integrated graphics run games such as lol diablo torchlight2 and maybe a few rts here and there. also, asus makes a point to talk about their wifi and bluetooth features.. does the rock wifi and bluetooth ready? thanks
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:15:26 PM
i would like to be able to play a few less demanding games (lol, torchlight, diablo, some other rts games) before i purchase a dedicated gpu because this mb combo is killing my funds and i wont be able to get the gpu until after i get ram hdd sdd optical drive but i want to be able to play around until then.
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:19:17 PM
dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:22:27 PM
Tradesman1 said:
Better hurryhurry with what? these are my choices http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/13-2602/index.html
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:29:18 PM
dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 6:51:16 PM
dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 7:07:54 PM
Tradesman1 said:
It will run most all games, not at ultra high settings of course - and if you have another PC might be able to use a number of the components from there until you get your newer onesawesome! will both mobo support the integrated graphics ? will one mobo from my choices listed support the integrated graphics better than another?
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 7:19:33 PM
Unless you use multi-threaded apps (and not trying to be a smart a**, but if you have questions about multi threading, then more than likely you don't. This is just a matter of most folks don't know, and I hate to see people basically waste money, the extra $100 or so could go to a better GPU, DRAM, SSD or elsewhere, you have no need for the 4770K, the 4670K will more than suffice
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 7:32:39 PM
Tradesman1 said:
Unless you use multi-threaded apps (and not trying to be a smart a**, but if you have questions about multi threading, then more than likely you don't. This is just a matter of most folks don't know, and I hate to see people basically waste money, the extra $100 or so could go to a better GPU, DRAM, SSD or elsewhere, you have no need for the 4770K, the 4670K will more than sufficethanks for the info. so back to the situation at hand hah mobo.. which one?
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dylanthedude
June 24, 2013 7:42:43 PM
Asus still has great mobos, I still use them fairly often and same with Gigabyte, have just followed ASRock , especially since they broke away from Asus, and they have just steadily increased product quality, QC, support, etc...also on a few occasions I've been in contact provided input on needs in the BIOS for hi end sticks(especially 32GB sets and they've taken it in and updated their BIOSs so they would work correctly (and it wan't a months long wait, we are talking about a week or less on the last time. Example on my Z77 I picked up the EX4 as a play mobo when I got a pre-release 3570K, and figured later I would move up to the EX^ or possibly the Fatal1ty Pro, and I'm still on the 4, it takes everything I throw at it (and that's a lot)
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