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Approximate Purchase Date: Within Next Year (Or Longer ((Buying one at a time)))

Budget Range: $3500 (Before rebates / deals)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies/anime, STORAGE

Are you buying a monitor: 3 would be nice 1080p (NOT 1080i) (Are there 4K monitors out yet?)



Parts to Upgrade: Full build with Case and peripherals.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes windows 7 pro.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com preferred

Location: Vancouver, WA

Parts Preferences: i5 has been said to be better that i7 when overclocked so was looking into that

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, Whichever is in a more stable build

Your Monitor Resolution: Max option

Additional Comments: Quiet mode option, Must be nextgen games ready, Good airflow, Liquid is ok

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: )Replacing 6yr old gaming pc (Using as word, internet browser)

I am somewhat new at building and have only made 2 cheap builds. I would like assistance in making a more high end system and since the compatibility of parts confuses me I thought I'd ask the people who spend there days dreaming up new builds to help me out!

This is what I was thinking at first...

My $3000 Computer

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Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$219.99 $219.99

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Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap
$6.99 $6.99

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CORSAIR AXi AX1200i 1200W Digital ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular ...
$349.99 -$20.00 Instant $329.99

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LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) ... - OEM
$79.99 -$10.00 Instant $69.99

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Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
$11.99 -$4.00 Instant $7.99

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Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0
$129.99 -$20.00 Instant $109.99

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GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$199.99 -$10.00 Instant $189.99

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Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
$99.99 $99.99

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Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
$139.99 $139.99

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CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10
$274.99 $274.99

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GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$399.99 $799.98

Subtotal: $2,249.88

 
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Since you are buying it late this year or next, you should go with Intel Haswell, GTX 780 or wait for the HD 9000 series.
I wouldn't recommend 32gb ram unless you are sure you are going to use all of it. I would use the Corsair 860W PSU or something similar, 1200W is just too much for 2 way SLI.

There is a 4K Asus monitor but that is going for $4k++.

You might also want to add in a 256gb++ SSD in that budget range. Else the rest looks pretty good.

I don't know about blu-ray because nowadays CDs are rarely used but its your choice.
 
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- I would look at the new i7-4770 CPU's...you'll need a LGA 1150 motherboard as well
- your power supply is way too much...1200W is no longer needed...a good 80+ 850W would be enough
- AMD graphic card are pretty bad with micro-stutter right now...so I would avoid crossfire. I would suggest a GTX 780 and save some money to buy a second one for sli if you need more power later.

and I agree...32gb of ram is way too much and using all 4 slots will slow the ram down a little
 
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Your PSU choice is far too expensive and overpowered. You'll never come close to 1,200 watts with this system, and there's never a good reason to spend $350 on a power supply for a consumer PC. Also, unless you're going to be doing some heavy video work, 32GB of RAM is just too much. You won't use it. I'd say 16GB is the max, and even that would just be for bragging rights. Also, i5 is not better than i7 when overclocked; it's just more cost effective.
 
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This is what I came up with for your budget. The keyboard and mouse are really whatever you want. I just went with what I use. It has a SSD for fast boot times. I decreased the ram like most people suggested. I opted to go for a pretty expensive case, so that is something you could definitely change. I opted for the 780 as was suggested and there is enough room on the psu for sli in the future. The Sandy Bridge extreme is going to be one of the best cpus you can buy right now, but the next generation of Extreme processors are right around the corner. I got pretty close to the top of your budget, but you can easily drop over 100 from the price by going with a regular keyboard and mouse. I have a few friends with this processor, and it runs cool and quiet. This is just a broad list, and you can change most things like motherboard choice without changing the price too much. Good luck.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19Ynp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19Ynp/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19Ynp/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($539.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($248.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($663.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($279.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3472.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-24 23:22 EDT-0400)
 
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I doubt a single GTX 780 is going to run next gen games for 5760 x 1080 @ smooth frame such as 45fps+. OP could save around $350 with a normal i5 Haswell/Ivy CPU. OP probably already have K/M setup so with a normal i5, a second 780 from this build, isn't far out of range if you're looking to game on 3 monitors.
 
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I sort of assumed it the multiple monitors was for multitasking, but I would definitely agree. If he is going for that resolution for gaming, there would have to be at least another 780.
 
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This looks good for the most part. Not a huge fan of Razer but I like everything else. Double up video and go for bluray. I might use (At least something like) this. TY!
 
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Logitech G13 USB Advanced Gameboard $79.99
Logitech G19s 920-004985 Black USB Wired Gaming Keyboard $199.99
3Dconnexion Space Pilot PRO 3DX-700036 21 Buttons USB Wired Mouse $399.99

(My gaming choices for peripherals)

So if i add 2 gpu's I should be able to run 3 monitor gaming just fine?
 
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Good luck with it. I know a mouse and keyboard is something you have to like, so i am all for you changing it. To be honest, the green on the keyboard is crazy bright until you turn it down. Like vinhn said earlier, this probably won't run a game in 5760x1080, but you could change up a bit on the gpu and go with an sli or crossfire option like you originally had. I am one of those people you were looking for. I spend time just messing around on pcpartpicker and wishing I had more money. My build is only worth about half of this, but hopefully, I will be able to build something that your budget could make. Happy gaming.
 
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And with a decent amount of your suggestions I've decided more like this... Now Are There more suggestions as to this list as to playing three monitor video games? Will it be under or overpowered anywhere?

Seagate Desktop HDD.15 ST4000DM000 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Item #: N82E16822178338
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Recover Your Data(expand for options)
-$30.00 Instant
$209.99
$179.99


3 SAMSUNG S22C150N Glossy Black 21.5" 5ms (GTG) Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824001792
Return Policy: Monitor Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$20.00 Instant
$509.97
$449.97
($149.99 each)


2 EVGA SuperClocked 03G-P4-2783-KR GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130917
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$1,319.98
($659.99 each)


Rosewill LIGHTNING-1000 1000W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire ...
Item #: N82E16817182239
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$50.00 Instant
$219.99
$169.99


Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Item Refund Only Return Policy
-$4.00 Instant
$11.99
$7.99


CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10
Item #: N82E16820233280
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$137.99


GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128562
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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$239.99


Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
Item #: N82E16819116492
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$569.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116992
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$139.99


CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler
Item #: N82E16835181032
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$21.00 Instant
$124.99
$103.99


LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) ... - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136250
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$79.99
$69.99


SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820147193
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
$249.99
Subtotal: $3,639.85 (I know I went over my budget but it is MY budget... ((And it was the monitors so technically PC still under budget)))
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($186.13 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($126.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($110.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($141.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3174.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-25 05:03 EDT-0400)
 
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You might also want to save until you have the cash to buy it all at once. I wouldn't recommend getting parts by parts because sometimes new stuff are going to be release it is could be better fro the same price. Just save until you have it all. You would also be wasting your warranty by buying say a motherboard and leaving it there for a few months before being able to buy everything else.
 
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You don't need a 3930K and a 1000W PSU for gaming. You could get way less of a PC and then put the rest of that money in the bank. And extra thermal compound is a wasted purchase no matter what your budget is.

This would be a far better use of your budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($663.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($663.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($147.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2504.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-25 13:42 EDT-0400)

$1K less and you'll get just as powerful of a system. Most games will never need hex core CPUs or 16GB of RAM. Buy whatever monitors you want and put the rest in the bank.
 
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Well it isn't its sole purpose. There will also be on the side fruity loops and maybe get into vid editing slightly... though doubtful. Want enough power to be safe in case one day I'm like "HEY! Let's try this and see if I like it...". Also if native rez is 1920x1080, 1ms can I put a 27" monitor surrounded by 2 24" monitors? The 2 are 144hz unsure on the ASUS VS278Q-P.
 
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Well I thank you all. I have decided on my build (As long as there are no fatal errors). I am now in saving mode as I will buy all parts at the same time just so any bundles, discounts, etc. will be applied. The overall build went over budget when I realized what it would take for what I really wanted but I am happy with the result. Total cost on N.E. is $5051.80 BEFORE discounts and without any bundling. W/O monitors, peripherals, and powerstrip/xtra thermal it is $3419.88 (Within Budget)... So It will be a little longer for extras but worth it for a dream. Again TY all.

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3 ASUS VS278Q-P Black 27" 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor $989.97
1 Logitech G13 USB Advanced Gameboard $79.99
1 Logitech G19s 920-004985 Black USB Wired Gaming Keyboard $199.99
1 Mad Catz M.M.O. 7 MCB4371300C2/04/1 Glossy Black 15 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Laser Gaming Mouse $129.99
1 MONSTER 121579-00 8 ft. 10 Outlets > 3000 joule HDP 1400G High Definition PowerCenter $219.99
1 Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM $11.99
1 Sentey Extreme Division GS-6700 SPIDER Sandy Mate Black SECC / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case $129.99
1 CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler $124.99
1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM $139.99
1 LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA $79.99
1 Seagate Desktop HDD.15 ST4000DM000 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $179.99
1 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $249.99
1 GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $239.99
1 Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor $569.99
2 EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card $1339.98
1 Rosewill LIGHTNING 800W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD $169.99
1 CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $144.99
 
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1 MONSTER 121579-00 8 ft. 10 Outlets > 3000 joule HDP 1400G High Definition PowerCenter $219.99
1 Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM $11.99
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These two things are ridiculous wastes of money. You do not need a $219 surge bar when you could get a $20 one at Home Depot and it gets the job done. If you need anything more than that buy an Uninterruptable Power Supply from APC. There is no need to spend $219 on a surge bar. Major ripoff. Your fan will come with thermal compound and Silver 5 is ridiculously overrated. No need to buy the same part twice. You might as well take that $11 and throw it away.

1 Logitech G13 USB Advanced Gameboard $79.99
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Is this a controller? Just get an XBOX 360 controller for $30, no need to waste $80 on one.

1 GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $239.99
1 Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor $569.99
2 EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card $1339.98
1 Rosewill LIGHTNING-1000 1000W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD $219.99
1 CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $144.99
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Again all this is a complete waste for gaming. You could drop the X79 platform and go Z87 and save 1/2 of that money, there's no need to overspend when you don't have to. 1KW is a bit excessive as well. You could use an 850W PSU and be fine.

1 Sentey Extreme Division GS-6700 SPIDER Sandy Mate Black SECC / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case $129.99
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I would veto this case choice - Sentey is a tier four or five vendor at best, they produce a lot of junk. Get yourself an NZXT Switch 810 or a Corsair Obsidian 550D instead - those would be far better. Anything but Sentey.
 
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PART 1: The Surge bar comes with a manufacturer warranty that covers computer damage so it's buying another warranty that is lifetime. And I've had the fluid come leaking or not in packaging and I always like to have a spare in my electronics box.

Part 2: It is a programmable 21 keypad with 3 memory settings. Personal preference for gaming.

Part 3: Reviewed Z87 and didn't prefer it over X79. It is a better performer in the long run and is better for GPU with 40 lanes. Already dropped down to Rosewill Lightning 800... Forgot to update.

Part 4: I read lots of great to decent reviews and only some bad ones. The negative ones talked of issues unimportant to me mostly and a few things I can live with. (Mostly stuff like "Plastic feels cheap", "Fell and broke mount", "Lower HDD Difficult To Install"...) But I will Keep looking as it was just a last minute "WHAT am I gonna PUT it in that isn't a NINE HUNDRED?!" choice. I liked the card reader and design. I know.... Shouldn't put it on here if it's "SUBJECT TO CHANGE".
 
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PART 1: The Surge bar comes with a manufacturer warranty that covers computer damage so it's buying another warranty that is lifetime. And I've had the fluid come leaking or not in packaging and I always like to have a spare in my electronics box.
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It still seems like a massive ripoff to me. I'd never pay $100 for cables or $220 for a surge bar. I'd do some research into the warranty and whether or not they actually honor it before purchasing. It sounds like a scam to me.

Part 3: Reviewed Z87 and didn't prefer it over X79. It is a better performer in the long run and is better for GPU with 40 lanes. Already dropped down to Rosewill Lightning 800... Forgot to update.
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Not necessarily. If you want to overpay fine I won't stop you. This would be a far better power supply though than the one you chose: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

Part 4: I read lots of great to decent reviews and only some bad ones. The negative ones talked of issues unimportant to me mostly and a few things I can live with. (Mostly stuff like "Plastic feels cheap", "Fell and broke mount", "Lower HDD Difficult To Install"...) But I will Keep looking as it was just a last minute "WHAT am I gonna PUT it in that isn't a NINE HUNDRED?!" choice. I liked the card reader and design. I know.... Shouldn't put it on here if it's "SUBJECT TO CHANGE".
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This is exactly why I have a serious problem with store reviews. A lot of cheap crap gets overrated and a lot of legitimately produced products don't get the high ratings they should because of some idiots not taking the right precautions prior to installation and wind up frying their products. That's when a lot of BS and misinformation gets out about certain manufacturers and their reputation for faulty products. They get traced back to the misinformed store reviews.
 
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I am also looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146089
But alas... I think it will become a last minute decision.
 
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