My New Build for about $1200

ktb1

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So I'm trying to build a computer for gaming. I want to play with decent frames per second in game. I also want to be able to record with at least 60 frames per second. This is the build I am planning on using, and I was trying to see if this build is good enough. Here's the build: My build. I'm not planning on running extremely resource demanding games, but if I was to start playing games like battlefield 4 when it came out, would this computer run well?
 
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It's ok to put in a good sub-100$ ssd and lower other parts a bit ( will lose you the SLI feature in the future, thou, but I don't think you'd really need 2 GTX770 ) like this:

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage:...

vinhn

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Get an i5-3570k or the 4670k, use that extra cash to get a GTX 770 and you will be good to go for BF4 @ 1080p. This is just an estimate because we have not receive full system requirements fro BF4. Games like Crysis 3 are a different story though but you will still be able to play it.
 

ktb1

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But if I was just going to use the computer for video and picture editing along with lower resource demanding games such as minecraft would my current set up work well or should I really change. I've heard the i5 would be a better choice for gaming, but I also want to record and edit videos. I looked at the 770 and the price for what you get is about the same as the 670. I don't really know if I'll even ever play BF4 and i doubt I'll ever play Crysis 3. I would also probably save more money though if I went with the i5 and the 770 rather than what I have right now, right? If I was to go from the i7 to the i5 I would probably use the 4760k rather than the 3570k because for slightly more money you get slightly better performance. Is it worth it?
Also, if i went with that processor, it is incompatible with the i5.
 

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If you're planning on doing video editing, gaming and recording I'd get the FX-8350, if you're planning on streaming even more so.

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($113.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($134.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1138.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Better in almost every aspects: CPU, motherboard, cooler, PSU,...

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($56.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1190.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Is that case really a must anyway?
 

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19TAf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19TAf/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19TAf/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.59 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($315.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1116.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I think this is the best budget PC for around $1100? The GPU also comes with borderland 2+ 4 other free games! That's worth over 200$, if you were to buy them on steam

Now there's a lot of room for upgrades if you need to, but this is the best budget build and you won't get any lacks in performance overall.

Here's a few upgrades you may consider if you want to spend more.

1. Upgrading the 7970 to a Gigabyte 770. You'll experience 10-20% increase in performance. However, you're losing around $200 worth of games and you'll have to write another 100$ out of the checkbook.

2. Upgrading the PSU to a Silencer Mark 3 750W or a Corsair TX 750W v2. The CX is great for budget builds, but you get a bit more quality with those other PSU.

Besides that, i think you'll have a great PC at a even better price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1349187&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite

That's the combo with borderlands 2+ all AMD games. As you can see it's 327 dollars, with 20 rebate. making it a great deal at 307$
 

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That PSU is on par with the one I posted, he's doing video editting so 16 GB of ram is a lot better, you don't need a high end CPU cooler if you're not overclocking massively, less storage, and the motherboard having stickers on it doesn't make it better =P, so yeah, "Better in almost every aspects".
 

SamGriffiths

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Too 4.5/6 you do, but not to 3.8, the 212 Evo is about 6c hotter than the Phanteks.
 

ktb1

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No the case isn't a must. I'd love to have a suggestion for a better one. I like this build the best out of the ones everyone has posted. It seems powerful. I also was wondering if you had more suggestions for the power supply, as I read it is noisy. And I like the 770 rather than another video card. I don't mind the extra cost, and I don't really need the games.
 

SamGriffiths

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Well there are better cases that are more expensive, do you want a cheaper one? I can find you one for $20 if you want, but you get what you pay for.

Trust me on this one, if you're doing video editing you're going to want 16 GB of ram. Also (something I forgot to put in my build) you're going to want two HDD's one to record too and one to play from.

This case is still good just not as good, but it's nice and cheap.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($134.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Tesla R2 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1190.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I see. Lets grab a XFX PSU instead, made by Seasonic so it's known to be silent, plus it has modular cables, and 750w make it capable of hosting a SLI/CF setup in the future. Changed case to a Tempest 410 Elite with nice layout and a huge sidewindow for your components to be seen.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1201.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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If you don't need a too overkill VGA for your system and/or your screen reesolution is only 1080p or lower, than it's OK to lower the VGA card without killing too much gaming performance to sneak in a high end SSD:

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1181.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I think you totally forgot the OS, ODD and Sidewinder X4.
 

ktb1

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What if I was to add a smaller SSD and maybe 4GB of extra ram just in case? I'm not worried about running out of storage, as I rarely use storage, and when I record, I upload then delete usually. Would those two upgrades along with what I have now be good?
 
120-128gb is the sweet spot for a SSD. Enough to house Windows, some documents and a few games you often play. Just add a few gb of RAM capacity more if you need, downgrading the SSD a bit to fit into your budget wouldn't hurt the performance a lot. So are you interested into the GTX770 build or GTX660ti + SSD build?

 

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I like the GTX770 so, I am willing to pay a little bit more for the SSD if it is a good idea. Also is is really worth it for 4GB of ram more? Not sure if it would be worth it or not. I could cut down the HDD too possibly.
 
It's ok to put in a good sub-100$ ssd and lower other parts a bit ( will lose you the SLI feature in the future, thou, but I don't think you'd really need 2 GTX770 ) like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($45.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1239.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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If your budget could go to 1300$ then just keep the 1200$ setup with GTX770 above and add in the Samsung 840 120gb.

As for RAM, depends on the actual memory usage of your programs. RAM is very easy to upgrade later anyway, so there's no need to spend too much for them at first.
 
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ktb1

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Just one last question. What about these "Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Haswell CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports."
 
Oh, right. First note means those bars might run at a speed lower than 1600mhz unless you go into the BIOS yourself and adjust the ram voltage to 1.65v or enable the sticks' XMP profile. 2nd mean the case doesn't have usb3.0 ports on the front to make use of the motherboard's internal 20pin usb30 header. Lets make the last adjustment to get rid of those:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman ZM-Z9 U3 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($45.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1237.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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