Will the GTX 650 Ti bottleneck on a FX-6300?

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Hi, I'm upgrading my current computer (specs below) with a new CPU: FX-6300 and a new GPU: GTX 650 Ti
I plan to finish Bioshock Infinite, I want to start Far Cry 3 and I want to start playing BF3 without framerate issues, while running Skype (most of the time).
Will this be an issue? I want to do some research before I slap some money into an upgrade and find something is wrong. Will I have a big bottleneck issue? Will I have overheat problems? Is this just a bad idea in general to get this match of CPU and GPU? My budget is $300. What will be my average FPS for these games? (I can't find any benchmarks with my set up)
CPU: AMD Athlon II x4 640
MOBO: AM3
GPU: GT 520
PSU: 575W
Case: RAIDMAX Thunder
All help is appreciated greatly!
 
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BF3 and FC3 are demanding games. A 650 ti will definitely have trouble even at low settings. But in terms of the combo, it's a good choice.

If you have the X4 640, I'd actually recommend something different:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n660tf2gd5oc

Then, you may need a PSU (what PSU do you have?)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s500

and finally, how much RAM do you have? you may need more:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls8g3d1609es2lx0

Should total about $300, but I need to know the remaining specs. Good Luck!
 
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What resolution?

Your current GPU is a lot weaker than your CPU. The Athlon II should be able to put up acceptable frame rates in those mentioned games, especially so if you are willing/able to overclock.

So, your rig with 8GB RAM and the 650 Ti is a good match, but will fall short of 1920x1080 with graphics quality cranked up. (need more GPU). I'd even pop a GTX 660 in there instead unless you game at low resolutions.
 
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I really don't know the brand of my PSU, (I'm not at my computer right now) but I have 16 gb of RAM, so that is definitely not a problem. And how would the 650 Ti get bad performance on those games? I'm looking at benchmarks for those games and they are easily getting around 50 FPS on max...
And how would the 660 not bottleneck on my current processor? I think it would bottleneck hard.
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Here are more of my specs.

In reply to pauldh, I have a 1920 x 1080 monitor lying around right now that I can use, but right now my main monitor is 1280 x 720
 
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The RAM is fine then. I'm going to assume the PSU is a no-name PSU and tell you to replace it. But to esnure you're not wasting money, open up you case's side panel and check the model.

I'm not sure what benchmarks you're talking about. Tom's reports that a 650ti only get about 40 frames on high in FC3. That's without AA, etc.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQ3Oubmjnc
That is the video that I am referencing.
Also, I have a hunch that my PSU is not no-name because I originally bought my computer custom from a store nearby, but the thing is that they put it together and not me, so I don't think they chose a no-name PSU.


Also would the 660 be a better bang for my buck along with the new FX-6300?
If that set up won't bottleneck I think I'm going to get those two new parts.
 
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Don't look at Youtube videos as a judgment of playability. Some folks want their hardware to appear more capable than it is.


1280x720 is another story. But the 650 Ti can not max out BF3 at 1920x1080 unless highly overclocked. Even then, it has no chance doing the same in Far Cry 3 without reduced AA.


Are you sure the X4 640 is holding you back? Honestly, the GT 520 is so weak, I'd upgrade the GPU first and then see if you still need more CPU. You are mentioning threaded games, where the that Athlon actually holds it's own fairly well. You could always overclock or buy an FX-6300 later on if need be. Too many people upgrade the wrong component and are unhappy with the result.

 
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Oh, unfortunately some stores will look to save money on the PSU. They may put that as one of their offered "upgrades". Also, if they choose a PSU that will die in 1-3 years, then may get the upgrade /repair business. Sad, but it happens.
 
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I don't know if the x4 640 is holding me back but with my current set up I get like 20 FPS on High settings on Bioshock Infinite and it disappoints me. Should I be getting that bad of performance or is something else holding me back?
That is the whole reason as to why I'm getting a new GPU.
What GPU should I get that will work good with my CPU until I can see if I need to upgrade it?

 
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I'm with pauldh, you definitely need a better graphics solution. While your Athlon is not exactly new it is still a fairly capable quad core that should have no issues playing most any game when paired with a solid performance GPU. The GT-520 is nowhere near what I would call a performance GPU, no offense it's about as bottom end as currently possible. Get into a 650 Ti or radeon 7850 and you will be much happier.
 
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So it seems that I'm torn between replacing my CPU and GPU and just upgrading my GPU.

I want to get the best performance on the games listed but I also want to get good performance on games that don't utilize 4 cores.

In reply to Madn3ss795, should I upgrade my GPU and keep the current CPU?
Or should I upgrade both as previously mentioned but with different parts?
 
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Your graphics card is holding you back for sure.

The Athlon II should be capable of 40-50 fps at ULTRA quality. At 1920x1080, that would even keep up with GTX 660. So 650 Ti, 650 Ti Boost, HD 7850 would all be fine depending on your budget and if you stay at 12x7 or want to try for 1920x1080.
 
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This is very true, however he specifically mentions some well-threaded games.

Oh and I should add, worse performance doesn't really mean bad performance. It's the rare game his CPU can't play. But the GT 520 .....
 
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Let's say I want to plug in my 1920 x 1080 monitor and start using that as my main monitor, can you suggest me some more cards that can work good with that?
 
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Sure, basically start a step above the 650 Ti (GTX 650 Ti Boost / Radeon HD 7850) or higher (GTX 660, HD 7870). The $150-200 cards. At 1920x1080, there's reason to spend $250 also, so the graphics will better last through your CPU upgrade should you decide to go that route. I'd suggest researching it for a few days before deciding which to buy. Keep an eye on prices /deals too so you know what's a good deal.

The 660 and 7870 can just about handle Far Cry 3 Ultra 2x MSAA at 1920x1080 without overclocking. The other two would need a drop to very high quality, or a lot of overclocking.

The 650 Ti is still good for the money, and overclocks well, but at stock clocks it will just need settings reduced more. I don't want you to overspend either as all of these are huge steps above what you have now.

Take a look at actual gameplay of a very demanding area of the game:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-gk106-benchmark,3463-6.html



 
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That's at 1600 X 900

You existing CPU will not bottleneck a 660.
 
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