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Decision Point on 2 Final Builds, X79 v X87 - Looking for Expert Help!

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June 25, 2013 11:10:06 AM

Overall, I am torn between bottom 2 CyberPowerPC builds. Difference is $240, since Black Pearl has a Free Shipping deal right now and Xtreme 1000 does not.

So, with 3-4 year projected life of this gaming rig in mind the question is if jumping up to i7 and getting a burly/tested Sabertooth MB with 5 year warranty is worth $240.

Obviously any other sage wisdom is uch appreciated as well. Seriously, THANK YOU all for your input ahead of time!

◦CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
◦CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port [+148]
◦CASUPGRADE: None
◦CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
◦COOLANT: Standard Coolant
◦CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4670K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
◦FAN: Asetek 570LX Liquid Cooling system w/ 240MM Radiator and Dual Fans (Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) [+43]
◦FREEBIE_CU1: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon [+0]
◦FREEBIE_VC: Free Metro: Last Light Coupon [+0]
◦HDD: 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 250MB/s Write [+107] (Single Drive)
◦HDD2: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+112] (Single Drive)
◦MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+0] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+14])
◦MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 5 Plus, OC Touch, On/Off Charger 2, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, 4x Gen3 PCIe x16, 1 PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+119]
◦OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+0] (64-bit Edition)
◦OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
◦POWERSUPPLY: * 1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro M 80 Plus Power Supply [+133]
◦VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+334] (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooling)
◦WNC: PCI Wireless 802.11n 150Mbps Network Interface Card [+19]
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◦CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
◦COOLANT: Standard Coolant
◦CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Quad-Core 3.60 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
◦FAN: Asetek 570LX Liquid Cooling system w/ 240MM Radiator and Dual Fans (Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) [+43]
◦FREEBIE_VC: Free Metro: Last Light Coupon [+0]
◦HDD: 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 250MB/s Write [+80] (Single Drive)
◦HDD2: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+112] (Single Drive)
◦MEMORY: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory [-58] (Kingston HyperX [+18])
◦MOTHERBOARD: (SLI/CrossFireX Support) ASUS Sabertooth X79 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ TUF Armor, SSD Caching, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI [+198]
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June 25, 2013 12:28:54 PM

Hehe the X79 platform is super...

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Those are some sub-par builds.

Firstly you could get an entire set for 2K easily:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($177.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Expansys US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($646.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($179.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($85.23 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($52.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $2052.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-25 15:20 EDT-0400)


That build should destroy the two you mentioned.

However, with more grace added:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Expansys US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1366.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-25 15:23 EDT-0400)

This build is much much more appropriate, while retaining a level of performance that easily

rivals the two builds you put forth; while being a lot more cheap. Also of note is how I recommend you

lower your expectations; 3-4 years is a very very long time in gaming terms, if you're meaning to not

upgrade in that time span, yet expect to play modern games at high graphical settings. For reasons like this,

it's rarely ever advised that you spend 2K on a build; since it'll be all but irrelevant in a few years time.

Rather, you spend a good portion and then save up for the next big overhaul or incremental upgrade, in order

to stay on top of things. In gaming terms, an i7 isn't worth it either. Stick with an i5, if you're going Intel.

If you don't plan on OC'ing (overclocking) then don't get K edition CPUs either. The sabertooth motherboard

is also overkill.
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June 25, 2013 1:12:51 PM

I definitely agree with X79 that those are some sub par builds. 1KW for a single GPU? i7-3820? Generic Asetek liquid cooling? For $2K you could definitely do way better building yourself.

I would suggest this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($425.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($425.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($205.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1956.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-25 16:12 EDT-0400)

- Better SSD
- Dual 770
- Better power supply and case
- Better liquid cooler
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June 25, 2013 1:18:55 PM

And in turn, I agree that G's build would destroy most games on sight, for quite some time;

if you're dead-set on spending that much money on a build.
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June 25, 2013 1:49:49 PM

I feel like the single 770X EVGA with either CPU would destroy any games now, which was the reasonig for the extra power supply - to SLI anoher 770x in say a year or so when there is a need for the FPS and the price is half. I will overclock but not now now, probably in next year when it needs it.

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$40 MIR on power supply
$30 MIR on case
$20 MIR on Motherboard
and for motherboard, I could go with a UD4H (sves $12) or D3H (saves $60) but the OC just seemed like the better board

So comparing to X79's $1366 build to my i5 at $1740
- larger SSD, larger PSU, better MB, better closed system cooling

Thus I am paying about $200 extra for the convenience of CyberPowerPC building/testing/shipping it out in one piece and there customr service that comes with that. Seems somewhat of a fair trade if im too lazy to build another PC myself...

But yeah, i agree buying it piece meal and building is way cheaper


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