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June 26, 2013 12:40:31 AM

should i wait for the 750 or just get the 650 ti boost?

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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 12:46:32 AM

nvidia is not releasing any new cards in the next few months so if u need it now then go for the 650 Ti Boost,it is the best card for its price
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June 26, 2013 12:54:28 AM

7850 is a $10-$20 difference and definitely better performer than the 650 ti. if you have no need for the better performance, or insist on getting an nvidia card, then go for the 650t ti for now.
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 2:27:08 AM

10pies said:
7850 is a $10-$20 difference and definitely better performer than the 650 ti. if you have no need for the better performance, or insist on getting an nvidia card, then go for the 650t ti for now.


He's talking about Boost - not normal Ti. The Boost is absolutely not slower than the 7850 - they're same speed. The non-Boost Ti is of course slower.
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 2:45:16 AM

The 650Ti boost edition has a base clock of 980 Mhz and a boost clock of 1033 Mhz whereas a normal 7850 has just an 860MHz Engine Clock.
Now the 7850 has a 256 bit memory interface whereas the 650 Ti boost has a 192 bit memory setup.
Both have 2 GB DDR5 memory.

Basicaly both the cards will perform almost the same, so do they in benchmarks. So spending a 10,20 $ more for a 7850 is not advisable. Get the 650 Ti boost edition and be happy.
NVIDIA will not be releasing any new cards for the upcoming months as they have stated so yeah, GET THE 650 Ti Boost!
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a c 133 U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 2:59:27 AM

^ Core and Memory clocks mean nothing when your comparing different GPU's, especially when their of completely different architectures.

This is how all the current cards line up as of yesterday, you can see where all the cards lie in terms of performance at 1080p.
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_760/images...
Taken from this review.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_7...

Also theres good evidence that the 700 series wont go any lower than the 760, and that Nvidia are going to be keeping their low end 600 series current until Maxwell (800 series) drops.
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June 26, 2013 3:06:24 AM

djabhi003 said:
The 650Ti boost edition has a base clock of 980 Mhz and a boost clock of 1033 Mhz whereas a normal 7850 has just an 860MHz Engine Clock.
Now the 7850 has a 256 bit memory interface whereas the 650 Ti boost has a 192 bit memory setup.
Both have 2 GB DDR5 memory.

Basicaly both the cards will perform almost the same, so do they in benchmarks. So spending a 10,20 $ more for a 7850 is not advisable. Get the 650 Ti boost edition and be happy.
NVIDIA will not be releasing any new cards for the upcoming months as they have stated so yeah, GET THE 650 Ti Boost!


you're comparing raw numbers which just as manofchalk said, mean absolutely nothing.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7850-vs-GeForce-GTX-6...
this shows that there actually is a difference in performance, which is worth well over $10-$20
OH I FORGOT TO MENTION. since he is talking about the 650ti boost, there is actually NO price difference. so yeah, just monkey logic at this point.
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 3:27:24 AM

10pies said:
djabhi003 said:
The 650Ti boost edition has a base clock of 980 Mhz and a boost clock of 1033 Mhz whereas a normal 7850 has just an 860MHz Engine Clock.
Now the 7850 has a 256 bit memory interface whereas the 650 Ti boost has a 192 bit memory setup.
Both have 2 GB DDR5 memory.

Basicaly both the cards will perform almost the same, so do they in benchmarks. So spending a 10,20 $ more for a 7850 is not advisable. Get the 650 Ti boost edition and be happy.
NVIDIA will not be releasing any new cards for the upcoming months as they have stated so yeah, GET THE 650 Ti Boost!


you're comparing raw numbers which just as manofchalk said, mean absolutely nothing.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7850-vs-GeForce-GTX-6...
this shows that there actually is a difference in performance, which is worth well over $10-$20
OH I FORGOT TO MENTION. since he is talking about the 650ti boost, there is actually NO price difference. so yeah, just monkey logic at this point.


First off all, don't give proof based on gpuboss or cpuboss here, please do take some time and check out real reviews where the cards get tested.
Benchmarks:
Battlefield 3:


Crysis 3:


Max Payne 3:


Tomb Riader:


Resident Evil 6:


Only in titles like Max Payne 3 and Sleping Dogs the 7850 seems to have an advantage over the 650 Ti boost, it may well be because of the 256 bit memory interface of the 7850 allowing faster rates. But this doesn't impact the other titiles at all.

So if there is a 10-20$ price difference, i see no real reason to get the 7850 because the 650 Ti Boost seems to cope up with the same performance and even better in some titiles.
If there is no price difference,i would still get the 650 Ti Boost.
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a c 89 U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 3:29:42 AM

djabhi003 said:
The 650Ti boost edition has a base clock of 980 Mhz and a boost clock of 1033 Mhz whereas a normal 7850 has just an 860MHz Engine Clock.

this also means that the 7850 has way more oc headroom, typically the 7850 can reach clocks around 1100-1200MHz on stock volts... where as the 650ti boost is already clocked close to the max out of the box...
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 3:43:24 AM

Kari said:
djabhi003 said:
The 650Ti boost edition has a base clock of 980 Mhz and a boost clock of 1033 Mhz whereas a normal 7850 has just an 860MHz Engine Clock.

this also means that the 7850 has way more oc headroom, typically the 7850 can reach clocks around 1100-1200MHz on stock volts... where as the 650ti boost is already clocked close to the max out of the box...


Which may or may not be true. I have seen posts where users were unable to go beyond 1050 Mhz on the 7850, where as some were able to reach 1150 Mhz. The 650 Ti can be considered as upto the limits, however gigabytes 650 TI boost OC edition can jump upto 1098 Mhz at its boost clock, so you can take it upto 1100 Mhz or even more i guess.
But you know, OC'ing, increasing fan speeds to keep the temps down, all depends on the user.
Personally if i was given the choice, then i would get the 650 Ti boost and take it upto the limits under safe temps.

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a c 89 U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 3:45:59 AM

sam_p_lay said:
Actually, they seem to overclock quite nicely:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/03/26/nv...

Course with any card (Radeon and GeForce alike) overclocking is always a gamble - no guarantee your silicon has the same headroom as what reviewers have.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7850_S...
PowerColor HD 7850 SCS3 1085 MHz 1375 MHz
ASUS HD 7850 DirectCU II 1240 MHz 1530 MHz
PowerColor HD 7850 PCS+ 1245 MHz 1545 MHz
MSI R7850 Power Edition 1120 MHz 1515 MHz
Club3D HD 7850 RoyalQueen 1190 MHz 1295 MHz
AMD HD 7850 1140 MHz 1580 MHz

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_650_Ti_Boost...
MSI GTX 650 Ti Boost 1110 MHz 1815 MHz 52.2 FPS
Inno3D iCHILL GTX 650 Ti Boost 1140 MHz 1815 MHz 51.8 FPS
EVGA GTX 650 Ti Boost SC 1135 MHz 1675 MHz 51.0 FPS
ASUS GTX 650 Ti Boost DC II OC 1090 MHz 1745 MHz 50.5 FPS
ZOTAC GTX 650 Ti Boost 1135 MHz 1830 MHz 50.7 FPS
NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Boost 1105 MHz 1710 MHz 50.6 FPS


ok i forgot an 'r' in the 'closer'. lol
still the 7850 can oc more relatively to the stock clocks so the perf increase attainable by ocing should be higher.
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 4:05:10 AM

I didn't say 7850s are bad for overclocking. You said that GTX650 Ti Boosts are already at their limit, while there actually is some headroom. But again, there's never guarantees. Why are you assuming the OP will overclock anyway?
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a c 89 U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 4:14:28 AM

sam_p_lay said:
Why are you assuming the OP will overclock anyway?

well why not? free 30% increase in performance by just moving 1 slider around in CCC. temps hardly change if you dont touch the voltages, so no need to fiddle with fan profiles etc... if they come asking advise on enthusiast forum some folks will undoubtedly point out enthusiastic stuff if in any way related to the subject at hand.

and i said they were close(r) to ther limits
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 4:22:17 AM

Voiding the warranty comes to mind. Concern about artefacting. Or simply lack of knowledge/confidence. You may not consider that to be a good reason (and maybe it's not) but many people won't overclock because they're worried about doing so and/or don't believe they stand much to gain. Right or wrong, you can't make them overclock (or factor it into their buying decision). So instead of making assumptions, how about we wait for the OP's response to know if they will overclock?
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a b U Graphics card
June 26, 2013 4:25:53 AM

Looking at the numbers, who has got more. And then reading the reviews, who performs better. Searching for max OC's, temperatures etc and then asking on a forum like Toms for advice.
That is indeed the best way to choose a GPU. (Atleast thats what i do).

But just consider the case of a normal customer, who doesnt want to OC at all, he just checks CCC and clicks on Overdrive and there you have warning saying 'You are voiding warranty', will he go over that?
No, the average user will not.
Hence, the best performance at stock speeds is what most people are aiming at, and hence the advice. If you don't want to OC, then Don't. If something gives you the required speeds and performance, why buy another product and then tweak it.
It all depends on one's choice really, to the OP's in this case :D 
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