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June 26, 2013 7:03:33 AM

Hi, im building my new system soon and have chosen all the parts and after much research settled on Intel Core i7 4770K, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming Motherboard , EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB FTW, G.Skill Ripjaws Z F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 my question is does anyone think i can do better for about the same or less? Btw I am in Australia
June 26, 2013 7:23:51 AM

clouse1843 said:
Hi, im building my new system soon and have chosen all the parts and after much research settled on Intel Core i7 4770K, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming Motherboard , EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB FTW, G.Skill Ripjaws Z F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 my question is does anyone think i can do better for about the same or less? Btw I am in Australia


If your purpose is gaming. Then an i5 3570k + cooler / i5-4670k, matching motherboard, asrock extreme 3/4/6 or gigabyte ud3h
2x4 gb RAM or if you must have 16gb then 2x8gb
And a gtx 770.

But this is rough specifics on an assumed purpose, what is this pc for?
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June 26, 2013 7:32:27 AM

drtoast said:
clouse1843 said:
Hi, im building my new system soon and have chosen all the parts and after much research settled on Intel Core i7 4770K, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming Motherboard , EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB FTW, G.Skill Ripjaws Z F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 my question is does anyone think i can do better for about the same or less? Btw I am in Australia


If your purpose is gaming. Then an i5 3570k + cooler / i5-4670k, matching motherboard, asrock extreme 3/4/6 or gigabyte ud3h
2x4 gb RAM or if you must have 16gb then 2x8gb
And a gtx 770.

But this is rough specifics on an assumed purpose, what is this pc for?

Yes for gaming and i would like tech reason why i should change my picked items thanks.
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June 26, 2013 7:36:08 AM

games uses 3.3g with one or two exceptions which use 6gb. 8gb is the correct amount of RAM for a gaming build.

Games do not and will not use hyper threading. This makes an i7 useless. An i5 is the sweet spot for gaming CPUs. The i7 offers nothing over it.
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June 26, 2013 7:44:58 AM

good cases for the cpu and ram (probs get 16 anyway for a bit of future proofing and i run lots of stuff in the background sometimes) but which board to choose oh and i forgot to mention that i have a 7.1 surround headset so i would like the mother board to support this (analogue)
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June 26, 2013 7:47:01 AM

Unless you do video encoding or run VRMs, 8gb will never be fully used no what you have running in the background. We are MAY (like 10) years off games needing any more than 8gb RAM.
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June 26, 2013 7:49:49 AM

any advice on a board then im pretty sure it can be a big deal
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June 26, 2013 7:51:16 AM

clouse1843 said:
any advice on a board then im pretty sure it can be a big deal


Its pretty overkill and you could go with something cheaper and lose no features. The motherboard doesn't directly affect computer performance. Only the features you get.
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June 26, 2013 7:52:00 AM

clouse1843 said:
good cases for the cpu and ram (probs get 16 anyway for a bit of future proofing and i run lots of stuff in the background sometimes) but which board to choose oh and i forgot to mention that i have a 7.1 surround headset so i would like the mother board to support this (analogue)


I did post a couple of suggestions :p  It's mainly your choice though, as you know precisely what you intend to do with it in the future as well, I myself am getting the ud3h, unnecessary for my build, but I intend to load that motherboard up with upgrades over the next 5 years :p 

Future proofing is an exercise in personal interpretation :p 
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June 26, 2013 7:55:34 AM

what would a real time performance difference be between to cpus that are pretty much the same but one has more cache?
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June 26, 2013 7:57:32 AM

Nothing at all unless you are encoding videos or rendering videos.

Are you comparing i5s?
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June 26, 2013 8:00:09 AM

yes i was looking at others in the 1155 range im coming to the conclusion that its probably the best bang for buck with the one suggested
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June 26, 2013 8:01:05 AM

If you want to overclock, get an i5 3570k and a z77 motherboard.
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June 26, 2013 8:02:03 AM

my intent is to not overclock unless my cpu is really dragging me down
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June 26, 2013 8:06:07 AM

this upgrade is a pretty big jump my goal is to play most things on high i guess my lower spec experience has me out of touch with what will achieve what assuming i got 2x4 ddr3 at 9-9-9-24 the proposed i5 3570k and a z77 mother board with 2GB 670 where do you think that would get me?
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June 26, 2013 8:08:13 AM

You should max all current games. The GPU is the biggest factor.
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June 26, 2013 8:13:14 AM

ASRock Z77 PRO3 Motherboard with the other proposed parts, anything else you guys wanna add? also thanks been out of the hardware game since my last build chose this over the extreme because it has full 7.1 analogue ports
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June 26, 2013 8:18:29 AM

That motherboard will work just fine.
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June 26, 2013 8:29:21 AM

well thanks all you have changed most of what I am getting also brought down the price a fair bit too
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June 26, 2013 8:31:54 AM

oh last thing on paper and benchmarks the 670 is not much different in performance than the 770 and the 770 is a fair bit higher in price anyone justify the extra cash
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June 26, 2013 8:43:40 AM

What is your resolution?
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June 26, 2013 8:51:38 AM

clouse1843 said:
tiny voices said:
http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=830

There is a decent difference.


at my rez its only around 8 frames on average difference and over $100 validate those few frames


The validation is as simple as, compare the 670 and 680 in price.

Then realise the 770 outperforms the 680, for a lower cost. In all essence it is just what the 680 should have been priced as, this new generation is the fairest pricing per performance nvidia ever produced :p 

Other than that, its a budget thing to consider, if money is important the 670 is fine. On the other hand, if you were going to buy the original build, havent you saved more than the difference between a 670 and 770? So the build would be cheaper anyway while giving better performance.
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June 26, 2013 8:53:57 AM

drtoast said:
clouse1843 said:
tiny voices said:
http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=830

There is a decent difference.


at my rez its only around 8 frames on average difference and over $100 validate those few frames


The validation is as simple as, compare the 670 and 680 in price.

Then realise the 770 outperforms the 680, for a lower cost. In all essence it is just what the 680 should have been priced as, this new generation is the fairest pricing per performance nvidia ever produced :p 

Other than that, its a budget thing to consider, if money is important the 670 is fine. On the other hand, if you were going to buy the original build, havent you saved more than the difference between a 670 and 770? So the build would be cheaper anyway while giving better performance.

i diddnt quite have enough i was saving things came up and i dont have an income atm i could go for the 770 and aim for that but i could probably get what is picked now with a 670 if its a decent jump for $100 i will wait but as far as i can see the difference is minimal
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June 26, 2013 8:59:13 AM

clouse1843 said:

i diddnt quite have enough i was saving things came up and i dont have an income atm i could go for the 770 and aim for that but i could probably get what is picked now with a 670 if its a decent jump for $100 i will wait but as far as i can see the difference is minimal


I'm not one to advise people to live outside their means ;)  I pulled a 770 based on the approximate budget for the build you posted, that is all :p  The 670 should run fairly well for a few years, maybe that $100 will be better saved and spent on a new pc or GPU upgrade when thats eventually outdates. Nobody really knows :p 

If your happy with that card by all means stick with it, happy to have saved you the other $100+ on the CPU and mobo :p 
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June 26, 2013 9:02:13 AM

thanks guys, hope this rig lasts me for a few years
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