Setting up slave router with existing network without ISP info.

eadroid

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What is the simplest way to configure a slave router for WiFi access point if the business owner does not have the master router user name and password? They wanted me to leave the Master router alone.
I am not sure the slave will have access to the WWW without the WAN IP?
My job is the add a slave router with WiFi to their locked down network.
I was given a IP range to use for the slave WiFi, 10.xxx.xxx.12 with DHCP starting range of .13-21 for wireless access. If I can leave the WAN settings blank (not worry about ISP settings) and only set up router static LAN IP, and point the DNS to the Masters default gateway, would that would provide access to the www through their existing master router content filter?
From reading your post, I will need to set the second (slave router) DNS to the master router Default gateway. Will I need to put in the WAN setting for WWW connection from ISP? If I point point the slave back to the master default gateway through DNS will the security setting of the master follow the slave?
Secondly, I used ipconfig /all to get the IP, default gateway of the existing subnet, is this the best way to gain access to the network settings if the customer does not have documentation?
 

Beachnative

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Who will be using this wireless network?

Should they be able to see wired network devices such as printers, scanners, etc.?

or do they need to be separated?

What kind of router is one where the password is lost?


Let's address these issues one by one.

1) From the IP's you gave 10.x.x.12 using the range .13 - .21

-I suspect you need an Access Point not a "slave" router.

-10.x.x.12 would be the static IP address of the AP .13 thru .21 would be the static IP's for the wireless devices.

-You would use the same network settings as a wired connection

2)Setting up a "slave router" would separate the network into two networks (wired and wireless) and wired network devices would not be EASILY shared. In these lo buck routers(gateways) the LAN IP's should not be WAN IP's....and yes I've seen the horrors of that! In other words on the slave router setting the WAN IP to 10.x.x.12 and then set the LAN to 10.x.x.13 and a device behind it using the IP address 10.x.x.14, that is a cluster*&^%.

3) As far as setting the slave router to point to the old router for DNS, go for it! That way all rules will have to be applied by the "master default gateway".
 

Beachnative

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Some of that was misleading and I made a few changes:

Now connect the router to be converted only to a computer via network cable to a LAN port and log in

Setup the wireless security

Disable the DHCP and change the LAN IP to match the gateway IP range but ending .12
In this case 10.x.x.12
set the subnet mask to the same as the wired computers
use and set the gateway to the same as the wired computers
Set the DNS to the same as the wired computers

Finally connect one of the four LAN ports of the AP to the main router, do NOT use the WAN port.
 

Beachnative

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And write down the admin password and tape it to the bottom of the router...



Personally I hate situations like that. I'm sick of going to a customers business and having to make a simple change telling them the bill will be $100/hr and take me a half hour to do, So I'd make $50-$75. Then after they cannot find the password I have to reset their router and try to get them back to where everything works again, then bill them for the hours it took because they have little to no house keeping skills.


One customer I did that to changed the password I wrote taped to the bottom of the router and said " I had to change it according to x,y,z rule..blah, blah, blah" (he's a CPA). This time I was there to to add an FTP server to his office.

"No password?" I asked.

"Nope, I forgot it..." he said.

My blood pressure hit the ceiling because of his attitude the last time and told him "well we know I'm going to spend at least an hour or more tryig again to get it all figured out."
I later asked if he wanted for $50 a network map drawn up and a network bible for his office. He declined. After he called and complained about the bill this time it was $250......I said pay the bill and you can call someonelse next time. A year or so went by and finally another network support guy called me an asked what the password was.

My blood pressure was in the stratosphere after hearing what client it was and what this young noob was going through. Same crap, owner changes password and forgets it.

This new guy was charging only $75/hr and was thinking it was too much. I told him BUSH#T!!! My rate is now $125/hr. After we both calmed each other down. I had written notes about this customer and did the young kid a solid by giving him what I had and even helped the guy test everything so he could walk out with confidence....And a paycheck... He billed the guy $450 after spending 6 hours getting the network up and running. (He called me after about 4+ hours of trying to figure it out). Today the noob and I are good friends and laugh about this all the time.

SAVE YOUR PASSWORDS!!!