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Minimum radiator amount for 4.8ghz 4770k + single 7970 1.3v?

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June 26, 2013 12:39:25 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I love everything about this case, I'm just worried that 2x 240mm rad slots won't be enough, and thus also have my eyes on the Switch 810 for its native and MASSIVE 420mm top + 280mm bottom rad support.

Thanks in advance, about to purchase soon!

EDIT: I actually just found the guide on how to calculate this for myself, but would anyone be willing to make an estimate?
a b K Overclocking
June 26, 2013 12:50:32 PM

I would say a single 360 (3x120) rad would be enough to cool that. a single 480 (4x120) would be fine even 2 240's (2x120)
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a b K Overclocking
June 26, 2013 1:11:25 PM

360 would be plenty
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June 26, 2013 8:42:43 PM

Thanks guys!
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a c 176 K Overclocking
June 26, 2013 11:00:57 PM

At a rough guess, you have ~350W to deal with under max load.
A thick triple rad or dual 240mm should be able to handle it, though its always good to have extra headroom so you can turn fans low.
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a b K Overclocking
June 27, 2013 7:12:40 AM

manofchalk said:
At a rough guess, you have ~350W to deal with under max load.
A thick triple rad or dual 240mm should be able to handle it, though its always good to have extra headroom so you can turn fans low.


Alphacool 240 would easily do it but its always nice to have that little extra cooling capacity
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a b K Overclocking
June 27, 2013 7:35:10 AM

manofchalk said:
Assuming you want to spend a ton on high quality fans and then have to run them at 2400RPM, on the 360mm rad version :p .
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/12/alphacool-nexxxo...

By dual 240mm I meant above, that could be misinterpreted. I really meant dual (as in two) 240mm rads.


:lol:  the ut60 360 was actually my first alphacool rad and it performed great. The only reason I upgraded was because my friend was selling a monsta 560 for 100 bucks.

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June 27, 2013 4:45:30 PM

Wow guys, thanks for the help! The UT60 is top contender for my rad purchase/s!!

I wound up settling on this case.
Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Also, I'm not going to be building my custom loop until I know what I'm getting, so in the meantime I've purchased an H110 to at the least cool my CPU, which I'll then sell off to a friend or save it for another rig after.

The case fits a 3x120/3x140 up top and a 2x140 on the bottom -- or, if I mount the PSU up top, it'd be the same thing but flipped.

I wonder though... where would be the best placement of the PSU if I'm going to use a 3x120/3x140 to cool my CPU?

Seems like a catch-22 to me..

Radiator on bottom = Cool air comes in from bottom, cooling radiator but then pushing warm CPU outtake onto everything else??
Radiator on top = Warm air from everything else arrives at radiator thus not helping to cool the CPU?

I'm confused :??: 
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a c 176 K Overclocking
June 27, 2013 9:36:07 PM

Radiator intaking air is better for whatever is being cooled by the water, bad for everything else since its dumping heat into the case. Radiator exhausting heat, vice versa.

I think its best to have the rad exhausting the hot air.
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a c 225 K Overclocking
June 28, 2013 4:13:10 AM

triplefam said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I love everything about this case, I'm just worried that 2x 240mm rad slots won't be enough, and thus also have my eyes on the Switch 810 for its native and MASSIVE 420mm top + 280mm bottom rad support.

Thanks in advance, about to purchase soon!

EDIT: I actually just found the guide on how to calculate this for myself, but would anyone be willing to make an estimate?


triplefam said:
Wow guys, thanks for the help! The UT60 is top contender for my rad purchase/s!!

I wound up settling on this case.
Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Also, I'm not going to be building my custom loop until I know what I'm getting, so in the meantime I've purchased an H110 to at the least cool my CPU, which I'll then sell off to a friend or save it for another rig after.

The case fits a 3x120/3x140 up top and a 2x140 on the bottom -- or, if I mount the PSU up top, it'd be the same thing but flipped.

I wonder though... where would be the best placement of the PSU if I'm going to use a 3x120/3x140 to cool my CPU?

Seems like a catch-22 to me..

Radiator on bottom = Cool air comes in from bottom, cooling radiator but then pushing warm CPU outtake onto everything else??
Radiator on top = Warm air from everything else arrives at radiator thus not helping to cool the CPU?

I'm confused :??: 


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Minimum radiator amount for 4.8ghz 4770k + single 7970 1.3v?


The most overlooked thing when the suggestions come are your overclocking intentions of 4.8ghz of a 4770K plus apparently from your thread title you'll have the GPU on the same loop?

There's a big difference between the words handle it, and perform extremely well under overclocking load.

My suggestion to you is to rethink before pulling the trigger or your actual CPU load temperatures could make you regret the decision to invest in water cooling.

Sometimes misery loves company!

The biggest mistake usually made is what's the least I can get by with to handle it, when the true question should be what will give me the cooling headroom I'd like to have for my CPU overclock?

Running the CPU and GPU on the same loop?

Can You? Yes

Why? If overclocking your CPUs headroom is irrelevant, and all you really care about is, does it look good?

Performance wise with the heat produced from todays overclocked CPUs 2 independent loops perform better as you're not adding the constant heat from the GPU to the overclocked heat of the CPU.

Been there done that and the cooling performance results sucked, and the purchase regret followed.

Also trying to cram everything inside of the case puts you somewhere using preheated case air to cool with, mounting your radiators outside the case on the side or top puts them drawing in ambient room air not preheated case air.

You still need good airflow through the case there are components on the motherboard that are air cooled, if you block it all up with radiators your case airflow drops tremendously.

Mounting your radiators outside the case not only can be made to look good but can be much easier as well.

Most all cases today provide case tubing pass through holes for outside mounting of radiators.

Single GPU Radiator Suggestion.

CPU Overclocked to 4.8ghz Radiator Suggestion.

The 140mm cooling fans are quieter than the 120mm cooling fans are, so that's why the 140 radiator suggestions.

I'm fully aware this throws a speed bump in your high speed road to Water Cooling Nirvana, but if you go less, well you'll get less.

If you go less will it work? of course it will!

But will you be satisfied with your overclocked CPU load temperature results?

That is for you to answer.



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July 3, 2013 5:44:28 PM

@ 4Ryan6

Thank you! This changed my perspective. I'm going to mod the top of my case to fit an external radiator (while closing off the internal top case vents to provide the 560 ONLY ambient air and instead using a single powerful 120mm internal rear exhaust to handle what is now less of an internal air heat load (1 back exhaust for memory, MB, etc... as opposed to 1 back + 2 top exhausts to cool all that AND the CPU+GPU too)

From there I'm thinking I'll throw the 280 GPU rad on the front pulling in and then modding the case to exhaust that air straight up and out the DVD bay area thus not touching anything else in the case (Is there anything I'm not aware of that would be an issue here?)

My tower has 2 140mm fans on the front, right behind it is the HDD cage which stands the whole length of the tower, then 2 additional 140mm fans on the opposite side of the front 2 which blow air in towards the video card. Maybe I could make them push air the opposite direction, or straight up from the bottom front of the case in order to help support the movement and channeling of air location from my "chimney" idea??

Watercooling I think is about to become my favorite hobby ! :D 
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a c 225 K Overclocking
July 4, 2013 4:09:28 AM

Take some pictures to share, and Thanks for the best solution!

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