Tomorrow i place my order for 1000Euro pc. Any advice?

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So tomorrow ill order my pc that ill be using for Gaming and Designing. Would love some feedback on this build/compatibility check/future upgrade check.

Case : Crosair Graphite 650D black 178Euro
PSU : Crosair-VS series 650W 70Euro
CPU : Intel Core i5 4670 quadcore [1150 socket] 215Euro
Motherboard : Gigabyte-H87-HD3 [1150 socket] DDR3 [crossfore X] 110euro
Ram : Corsair-DDR3 8GB Dimm 1600MHz Vengeance 74 euro
GPU : Sapphire-VGA PCI X 7950 VAPOR-X 3GB OR Sapphire-HD7950 With Boost First one 339 euro second one 319 euro.

Hard Disk : None. I allready got 2x Western Digital 320gb 7200rpm. Free
Fans : Bitfenix 200mm Pro Red/green/blue or white ones. didnt settle on the colour yet.........

Additional info :
I won't be overclocking im scared...
I will be buying a second 7950gpu in the future for 2-way Crossfire X

Question : I saw in some youtube videos that in Cases with side window panel the internal system is lighted in colour [red for example] . Is this achieved by adding led fans ? Or something else??

[i like it to be beautiful :p]...

I dont need a Monitor as ill be using a TV connected either via HDMI or VGA.
Tv resolution is 1360x768 . Later on ill probabbly purchase a 27'' monitor though.
Ill be buying an 128 SSd later on too.


Please give me your guidance and advices as its my first time building a pc...
Should i buy all the parts from seperate shops to minimise the cost? Or i just use a single site to have them all set up at once?

Thanks a lot guys!!
 
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You'll save money on the CPU and there's no difference between 3.0 and 3.2GHz. The current and previous gen Intel CPUs use something called Turbo Boost that allow it to run beyond the stock speeds. I actually run my 3450 at 3.4GHz when the stock speed is 3.0 GHz. The reason for dropping the cooler is that you don't need a hefty cooler if you're...
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Sterg,

You have what appears to be a very good components list. I apologize if you already know of this> which is to check the Gigabyte site and verify compatibility of the exact model of your RAM.

Also, you do not mention the programs you use for designing, but if you use Autodesk or Adobe, you may like to read about some advantages of NVIDIA graphics cards- they can use CUDA coprocessing to make those applications faster.

As for lighting in the case, there are several ways to do it,, the most common is that as you mention, the fans already have the lights, or you can buy lights like this system >

DE > http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/280-7505568-7454565?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=NZXT%20CB-LED20-BU

US > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0046Y5Z5G

> which could be used also for a high tech Christmas tree! I like that it has a back panel control, although that would mean possibly losing use of a motherboard slot.

Cheers,

BambiBoom


[ Dell Precision T5400 > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16 GB ECC > Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 / Segt Brcda 500GB > windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > AutoCad, Revit, Solidworks, Sketchup Pro, Corel Technical Designer, Adobe CS4 MC, WordP Office, MS Office ]





 
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What store are you buying from? That looks like it will be a pretty decent rig but if you want case and other suggestions please link to the store you are buying from as that will help to suggest parts. Hold off on the extra fans for now, you don't need them until you have your case in your possession.
 
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Some flaws in the build -

1) PSU is very terrible.
2) GPU should not be used in crossfire! That would cause micro sluttering in most games requiring you to disable 1 of the cards which would defeat the whole purpose of crossfire.
3) Case is too expensive mate.

Check out this build, it is cheaper than your, but is stronger (Considering you won't be overclocking) -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1135.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-27 13:19 EDT-0400)

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This build is faster than your build for comparatively lesser price. I kept prices a bit low as I heard things in Europe are more costly so that equals it off.
 
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Hello Bambiboom and thanks a lot for the rapid response! I didn't think of checking the gigabyte site for compatibility [duh], thank you very much for pointing that out :D .

I chose this case because i dont like the coolermaster haf etc big tanky christmas pcs. Some glowing would be nice here and there but not super fancy..so ill probabbly skip the lights and just use 1-2 led fans with low lightning...

For designing ill be using Adobe Photoshop,illustrator,primarily .. possibly some minor video editing.. and maybe 3d programms like 3dsMax or Maya[?] ..

The problem is that the closest to the performance of a 7950 in nvidia cards is gtx 760 i think.. But thats without the 4 games ...

Now the real problem for me going with a gtx 760 is that the site im going to build my system has not even one lga 1150 socket that supports sli... so in the future i will have to buy a gtx760+motherboard.... :/
 
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The OP is in the EU so those links will be of little use.

OP - what store are you buying from?
 
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http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine

This is what im using , thank you for the reply!!

@Charm

Thanks for the reply ,
1) Why is the psu terrible? I know nothing of psu saddly...
2) I dont plan on buying a second 7950 till 4-5 months so i suppose till then the games will be optimised for crossfire
3) I know...But i want a sleek design and window side panel and not bulky tank design like coolermaster... its a little sad
 
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I meant the parts not the links. That is why I kept prices a little lower in USD.
 
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It's not a question of what parts are being used, it's a question of whether or not those parts are available where the OP lives. A lot of the smaller EU countries won't have access to the same parts that we do here in the US. And a lot of manufacturers, especially the smaller ones, don't have wide networks of distribution. Corsair and Antec will, but smaller ones like Mushkin and PC Power & Cooling won't.
 
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I see. Thanks for clearing it up. ^^
 
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Sterg,

I also like very plain, non-distracting cases. The Fractal 3000 looks very good and also must have very good air flow.

Yes, the Christmas lighting is not necessary! A common case with fan lighting and very good user reviews is the Antec 900, and this is considered reasonably quiet. The fans are three speed.

There have been comments about you PSU choice. My understanding is that Corsair is among the better ones- Seasonic too.

As for the HD 7950 in crossfire: while I think GTX would be better for your work applications- definitely better for Maya- the HD 7950 appears to me better- slightly higher frame rate, a bit less less stuttering- than GTX 660ti in these gaming examples >

http://www.overclock.net/t/1377275/pcper-frame-rating-comparison-hd-7950-crossfire-vs-gtx-660-ti-sli-full-review


Cheers,

BambiBoom
 
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The question should be - are you going to overclock or not? If you're not going to overclock you could actually drop your CPU to the i5-4430 and then upgrade your GPU to a Radeon 7950 and drop the cooler.
 
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No i wont be overclocking...im afraid to do it and i think its not worth the risk..
Why drop to 4430 if im not overclocking? Could you explain ? You meant 7970 ? I was going to pick 7950 how can i upgrade to 7950 :s .. also drop the cooler? Sorry for so many questions im very new to these stuff. its my first build... im used to gaming on very low so far and on old games like Wow and lol
 
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You'll save money on the CPU and there's no difference between 3.0 and 3.2GHz. The current and previous gen Intel CPUs use something called Turbo Boost that allow it to run beyond the stock speeds. I actually run my 3450 at 3.4GHz when the stock speed is 3.0 GHz. The reason for dropping the cooler is that you don't need a hefty cooler if you're not going to overclock. You can use the included stock fan and be fine.
 
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