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June 27, 2013 2:02:53 PM

I'm asked to help my brother in finishing this build:

He purchased:
- CPU: AMD FX-6350
- Memory: G.Skill RipjawsX 1866Mhz 8GB (2x4)
- GPU: HIS HD 7870 IceQ X Turbo 2GB

So I'm thinking about these additions:
- Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0
- CPUCooler: Arctic Freezer 64 Pro
- SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB
- HDD: WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200rpm 64MB
- PSU: Seasonic X650
- DVD: ASUS DRW-24B5ST
- Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window
- Coolers - 5 x Arctic F12 TC (I think 5 optional slots are in the Shinobi)

I would like to hear your thoughts about the parts without giving me a whole new build.

Also i have a few questions:
- Will this CPU cooler give us enough memory clearance, if he would invest in another 8GB RAM?
- Is this PSU enough for this build? (even with 16GB RAM?) (or with CF, if you imply it in the following questions)
- Is this motherboard a good choice? He doesn't really want to spend more on it. But if necessary, would it be a more future proof option to have a 990FX installed because of CF?
- Crossfire question: In the future would it be a good choice to go with a second 7870, or instead a change would be better to 7970 or better solo?

It will be a gaming PC.
Thanks.

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June 27, 2013 2:10:19 PM

Honestly thats a very beautiful computer you have put together, everything seems fine to me. I would maybe recommend the Hyper 212 EVO over what you have selected, but I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal.
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June 27, 2013 2:12:54 PM

Looks perfect.

As far as crossfire goes, lets see how the new drivers coming soon work. They are suppose to reduce microstutter.
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June 27, 2013 3:21:46 PM
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do you already have the CPU cooler? if not get a cooler master 212 evo, you can't go wrong with it (price per performance). if you have more cash, get an Noctua nh-12s. it is pretty much the best air cooler on the market (short of the nh-14s, but that thing's HUGE)

now, going down the list:

- mobo: decent choice
- CPU cooler: we already talked about this
- SSD: good SSD. if you find a 830 128GB for the same price, get that. otherwise the 840 is a great drive
- HDD: good choice
- PSU: you can't go wrong with seasonic. if you want to save money, a 500W would be enough power. with CF 650 should be just about enough
- DVD: good DRW
- Case: entirely upto your tastes, but it's a good case
- Coolers - upto you, but corsair fans are pretty nice (and cheap), they've become my goto brand for many things :) 

as for what to get in the future, it would depend on what price you can get from selling a 7870. it's always cheaper to go CF (and you'll have more performance than a single 7970). but if you can get a nice price for the 7870, then getting a 7970 would enable you to get a better CF setup down the road
June 27, 2013 3:41:35 PM

smeezekitty said:
Looks perfect.

As far as crossfire goes, lets see how the new drivers coming soon work. They are suppose to reduce microstutter.


Are you implying, that nowadays a single card setup would be a more reliable choice?
Or just that a single gpu runs smoother?
June 27, 2013 3:46:47 PM

Thanks for the CM Hyper 212 Evo tip guys, can you tell me how it is with memory clearance?

The thing i like with Arctic F12 TC is the temperature control, i read that its a very good experience. Do you know about it?

Also i'd like to hear more from you about Crossfire. I never tried it, so please share your experience. (Regarding of course this GPU we have)
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June 27, 2013 3:49:33 PM

To answer your questions:

1. That cooler is a POS. Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead - well worth the extra $10, especially if you plan on overclocking that FX-6350. Forget about buying extra case fans until you have your case in your possession.

2. Plenty, and it's a solid choice. I wouldn't recommend anything less.

3. That should be sufficient enough. Future proofing is kind of a moot point but 990FX motherboards are definitely better than 970.

4. I hear AMD is finally addressing that pesky micro stuttering issue associated with Crossfiring Radeon cards so once those drivers are out I'd say it's definitely OK but that depends on how many monitors you ultimately plan to run.
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June 27, 2013 3:53:43 PM

Right now crossfire has an issue where the frames are delivered with uneven timing ("microstuttering").

It annoys some people but AMD is rumored to be working on a driver fix.

But generally single GPU is more smooth and more stable.
June 28, 2013 2:33:06 AM

g-unit1111 said:
To answer your questions:

1. That cooler is a POS. Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead - well worth the extra $10, especially if you plan on overclocking that FX-6350. Forget about buying extra case fans until you have your case in your possession.

2. Plenty, and it's a solid choice. I wouldn't recommend anything less.

3. That should be sufficient enough. Future proofing is kind of a moot point but 990FX motherboards are definitely better than 970.

4. I hear AMD is finally addressing that pesky micro stuttering issue associated with Crossfiring Radeon cards so once those drivers are out I'd say it's definitely OK but that depends on how many monitors you ultimately plan to run.


1. You mean i should wait until i see the spaciousness of the house, or to judge the experience with the 2 stock fans?

3. Is there really any real advantage to 990FX besides the Crossfire option? (Sorry, i'm kinda uninformed on this.)

4. This build will only run a single monitor.
June 28, 2013 2:33:07 AM

g-unit1111 said:
To answer your questions:

1. That cooler is a POS. Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead - well worth the extra $10, especially if you plan on overclocking that FX-6350. Forget about buying extra case fans until you have your case in your possession.

2. Plenty, and it's a solid choice. I wouldn't recommend anything less.

3. That should be sufficient enough. Future proofing is kind of a moot point but 990FX motherboards are definitely better than 970.

4. I hear AMD is finally addressing that pesky micro stuttering issue associated with Crossfiring Radeon cards so once those drivers are out I'd say it's definitely OK but that depends on how many monitors you ultimately plan to run.


1. You mean i should wait until i see the spaciousness of the house, or to judge the experience with the 2 stock fans?

3. Is there really any real advantage to 990FX besides the Crossfire option? (Sorry, i'm kinda uninformed on this.)

4. This build will only run a single monitor.
June 28, 2013 6:40:44 AM

The Bitfenix Shinobi case has 161mm cpu cooler clearance.
The CM Hyper 212 Evo's height is 159mm.

Should i look after another case, or is this alright?
June 28, 2013 3:09:26 PM

Thanks BreadWhistle, smeezekitty, vmem, g-unit1111.
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June 28, 2013 3:16:22 PM

If you have ordered already, have no fear. motherboard height/thickness is fairly standard, and that 2mm of clearance between the CM Hyper 212 EVO in the Shinobi should be enough :-)

and thanks for best answer
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June 28, 2013 4:13:52 PM

tidr said:
g-unit1111 said:
To answer your questions:

1. That cooler is a POS. Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead - well worth the extra $10, especially if you plan on overclocking that FX-6350. Forget about buying extra case fans until you have your case in your possession.

2. Plenty, and it's a solid choice. I wouldn't recommend anything less.

3. That should be sufficient enough. Future proofing is kind of a moot point but 990FX motherboards are definitely better than 970.

4. I hear AMD is finally addressing that pesky micro stuttering issue associated with Crossfiring Radeon cards so once those drivers are out I'd say it's definitely OK but that depends on how many monitors you ultimately plan to run.


1. You mean i should wait until i see the spaciousness of the house, or to judge the experience with the 2 stock fans?

3. Is there really any real advantage to 990FX besides the Crossfire option? (Sorry, i'm kinda uninformed on this.)

4. This build will only run a single monitor.


1. I'm saying that you can't go buy tons of fans when your case may only have 2 - 3 mounts. You also have to factor in power connectors for said fans.

3. Not really. The 990FX will support FX and future CPUs.
June 29, 2013 8:10:25 AM

vmem said:
If you have ordered already, have no fear. motherboard height/thickness is fairly standard, and that 2mm of clearance between the CM Hyper 212 EVO in the Shinobi should be enough :-)

and thanks for best answer


i haven't bought the case yet.
what do you think about the CM HAF 922 or 912 Plus?
June 29, 2013 8:11:16 AM

g-unit1111 said:
tidr said:
g-unit1111 said:
To answer your questions:

1. That cooler is a POS. Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead - well worth the extra $10, especially if you plan on overclocking that FX-6350. Forget about buying extra case fans until you have your case in your possession.

2. Plenty, and it's a solid choice. I wouldn't recommend anything less.

3. That should be sufficient enough. Future proofing is kind of a moot point but 990FX motherboards are definitely better than 970.

4. I hear AMD is finally addressing that pesky micro stuttering issue associated with Crossfiring Radeon cards so once those drivers are out I'd say it's definitely OK but that depends on how many monitors you ultimately plan to run.


1. You mean i should wait until i see the spaciousness of the house, or to judge the experience with the 2 stock fans?

3. Is there really any real advantage to 990FX besides the Crossfire option? (Sorry, i'm kinda uninformed on this.)

4. This build will only run a single monitor.


1. I'm saying that you can't go buy tons of fans when your case may only have 2 - 3 mounts. You also have to factor in power connectors for said fans.

3. Not really. The 990FX will support FX and future CPUs.


1. good point. thanks.
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June 30, 2013 2:48:47 PM

the HAF 922 should be a solid case and has great cooling performance
July 2, 2013 5:41:43 AM

Thank you. All of my questions have been answered. Great help from all. This topic can be closed now.
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