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Corsair Dominator/Vengeance vs. Kingston HyperX Beast?

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June 28, 2013 7:56:17 AM

Hello ppl!

I am a girl and my strongest suit is creativity, not technical knowledge, so PLEASE HELP!

Currently I'm building a system which is gonna give me a MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE when it comes to the Photoshop CS6 retouching work and so far I have come to:

CPU: Intel i7-4770K 3.5GHz 8MB - 289.56 EUR

Motherboard: Asus Z87-EXPERT - 193 EUR (because of possible use of Thunderbolt in the future)

Storage: SSD: Samsung 128GB SSD SATA600 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW - 114.3 EUR X 2 (OS & Photoshop); HDD: WD Black WD4001FAEX 4 TB - 242 EUR or WD2002FAEX 2 TB - 130 EUR

Graphic card: Nvidia Quadro K2000 - 430 EUR (because of 10bit/wide gamut color)

Display: Dell U2413 - 474.86 EUR (because of 10bit/wide gamut color)

PSU: Seasonic SS-760XP2 - 180 EUR

OS: Windows 8 PRO

One of the things I'm obviously still struggling about is:

WHICH RAM (32GB) - Corsair Dominator/Vengeance or Kingston HyperX Beast? Also, it would be highly appreciated to hear which model exactly and why?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! :lov: 
June 28, 2013 9:24:47 AM

Thanks for the answer, but this is simply not true because the situation is quite opposite: the Photoshop is overkill for (any) RAM - a lot of my colleagues have a 64GB of RAM on their workstations and they still struggling sometimes with a processing when in comes to the large PSD/PSB files!
June 28, 2013 9:26:39 AM

zeeakawanted said:
Thanks for the answer, but this is simply not true because the situation is quite opposite: the Photoshop is overkill for (any) RAM - a lot of my colleagues have a 64GB of RAM on their workstations and they still struggling sometimes with a processing when in comes to the large PSD/PSB files!


Friend of mine uses photoshop extensively with 16GB. I should pass your advice along to him :lol:  Back to the question at hand. Corsair is good ram but seriesuly just overpriced these days. Find some good G Skill. It'll perform the same if not better and be decently cheaper.
June 28, 2013 9:34:22 AM

I'm sorry if you got me wrong, my intention wasn't to be rude but informative - Photoshop, per sey, can work and with a 1GB of RAM (lo-res image, one layer), but for the people who do it professionally (read: make living from it) 16GM of RAM sometimes are not as near as enough...

Update (because you've updated your answer in he meantime as well): I'm aware there are other brands, but I live in a small country and our local dealers are pretty closed-up (international shipping is not an option because it is relatively expensive plus we have to pay custom 37%...) Anyway, THANKS for your effort to help, it is highly appreciated!
June 28, 2013 9:35:46 AM

zeeakawanted said:
I'm sorry if you got me wrong, my intention wasn't to be rude but informative - Photoshop, per sey, can work and with a 1GB of RAM (lo-res image, one layer), but for the people who do it professionally (read: make living from it) 16GM of RAM sometimes are not as near as enough...


No need to apologize at all. I was simply incorrect and you corrected me on it. Thank you. :D 
June 28, 2013 9:42:34 AM

zeeakawanted said:
See above! :lov: 


If i had to pick between kingston and corsair i'd take the corsair even if it was more expensive.
June 28, 2013 9:50:19 AM

Thanks a lot!

Btw, someone else told me to look for "CAS rating of 9 or lower" - would somebody mind to explain what does that mean?
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June 28, 2013 4:26:11 PM

Sure, picking DRAM is a combo of both frequency and CAS (CL),, in simplified terms think of CAS as how many seconds it takes to perform an action, and the freq as how much data it can process per action, so if you have 1600/CL9 sticks which do 12, 800MB per action then in 9 seconds you process that 12,800MB,,,but if you have 2133/CL9 (17,000 MBper action) sticks then they would process 17,000 MB in the same amount of time....

And for Photoshop, no 32GB isn't overkill, have built many a system for folks that work with the program for a living....32GB of 2133 or 2400 would probably be good for your rig, I'd suggest the GSkill Tridents or Ripjaws X
June 28, 2013 4:30:21 PM

THANKS so much, you're such a <3!!!!
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June 28, 2013 4:52:46 PM

Should have added, in 2133 I normally look for CL9 and 2400 look for CL10
June 28, 2013 8:19:29 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Should have added, in 2133 I normally look for CL9 and 2400 look for CL10


I'm curious as to why this is. So 9 is not always better than 10?

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June 28, 2013 8:50:52 PM
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Nope, let's say somebody tells you to get 1600 CL9 and I suggest 2400/CL10, as far as pure performance of DRAM (higher freq always offers a little more bandwidth) but roughly DRAM sort of performs equally at

1600/CL7 or 1866/8 or 2133/9 or 2400/10 or 2666/11 (again each high freq provides a bit more bandwidth in MB per second)

so 1600/9 would equate to roughly 2400 at CL12, so the CL10 paired with 2400 would be running away...

When processing large amounts of data such as photos, not untypical to work with 10+ GB images you'll be processing more data and much faster with the higher freq and sligthly higher CL 2400/10 than with 1600/9...and if you are short of DRAM it takes even longer, as when you run low on DRAM (say you have 16GB and working on a 20+ GB image, you can't hold the whole thing in DRAM, so you might see your HD LED blinking, this is your system constantly writing data to your page file on your hard drive and reading it back as it processes it...it might take a cycle each to write, read and write again so even thought the 2400/10 doesn't do each action quite as fast, it is processing far much more data with every action....hope this explains it a little better, to get into technospeak would be a lot more complicated
June 29, 2013 12:21:52 AM

Oh okay. I thought you were suggesting that for 2133/2400mhz you should look specifically for CL9/CL10 respectively, but I get that 2400 will be better than 2133 regardless as long as the CLs are close. Memory seems more complicated than it should be lol.
June 29, 2013 6:34:23 AM

Thanks a LOT to all people participated in this thread - especially to Tradesman1, HE'S THE BEST!
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June 29, 2013 8:21:42 AM

It is somewhat complicated, big thing is people just don't understand it, the examplae I use, I try and make as simple as possible so people can sort of relate to it, otherwise you get into too, too many numbers
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