LED/LCD that doesn't look washed out?

sparky_98 · Jun 29, 2013

Hi all,

I'm looking for a decent gaming LED or LCD display. I've resisted upgrading for years primarily because every single LED or LCD display I've seen looks fairly washed-out compared to my old CRT; displays look dull and lack vibrance. I know you can compensate to a degree via the video settings, but even then, something is missing. The only display I've found that I really liked is no longer made, the LG W2240T. However, at 22", and that monitor is actually quite a bit smaller than my 21" LCD due to the difference in aspect ratio.

cookybiscuit · Jun 29, 2013

LED displays don't exist, they are just LED backlit LCD's. You'll probably want a PLS or IPS panel if you are after good colour depth.

Someone Somewhere · Jun 29, 2013

You want one with a high contrast ratio. And yes, unless it is an AMOLED display, everything LED is just LED-backlit LCD, instead of the older CCFL-backlit ones.

Either that or you have the saturation turned up too high on your existing display, and are used to oversaturated colours.

sparky_98 · Jul 3, 2013

Thanks, folks. I'll hit Best Buy and look at screens myself before taking the plunge. Yes, I'm probably used to saturation, but it seems like all CRTs are like that. I've noticed it on other people's. The thing is, my current monitor is pretty well-calibrated for some of the things I do i.e. making game models in Blender.

Someone Somewhere · Jul 4, 2013

One thing I've noticed is that most LCDs are too blue (observations from calibration with an actual colorimeter).

You can turn up saturation if you want on most displays.

sparky_98 · Jul 9, 2013

Someone Somewhere :

That's exactly the problem. I kind of lumped that in with "washed out" (because the blue hue does seem to effectively "wash out" other colors, i.e. make them less dominant) and that's why I've stayed with a CRT so long. So, I still need to find a monitor that isn't so blue-tinted/washed out. As mentioned previously, I've only found one model, but it's no longer made.

Someone Somewhere · Jul 9, 2013

You can change the calibration profiles in Windows usually.

Most screens also have a section that lets you change the colour temperature.

toyftw · Jul 9, 2013

sparky_98 :

Hi - take cookybiscuit's advice if color quality is important to you and invest in
a quality IPS or PLS panel. You will have to pay more than for the run of the mill
tn panels.

My guess is Best Buy won't have a broad selection of IPS or equiv panels
on display.

sparky_98 · Jul 11, 2013

toyftw :

Thanks, especially to toyftw (and cookybiscuit). Wow, you weren't kidding about paying more. Really, the only thing that's in my price range is the Dell Ultrasharp 23" which is about $250. Do you or anyone here have experience with this display or similar?

I also have a crazy idea. I've hooked my gaming rig to my TV, a Samsung 42" LED-backed LCD. I don't know the model off the top of my head - it's about 3 years old - and have only tried playing a train simulator using it, but it doesn't look bad, not bad at all. Not completely crisp (possibly to do with pixel response time?) but not bad as far as color rendition. It's much better than most of the lower-cost, "business" use LCDs out there including the one I use in my office. Is there a way to gamma-correct different displays i.e. one set of settings for the main display, and one for the TV? Does the notion of getting, say, a 30"-32" Samsung TV instead of a monitor pose any potential issues for gaming and content-creation purposes?

toyftw · Jul 11, 2013

sparky_98 :

Hi, sorry I don't have any experience with that Dell, assuming it's the U2312HM, it's $210 at Newegg,
and the users (small sample tho) rate it very highly. Also rated very highly by users at B&H.

As far as using a 30-32" tv, I don't see an issue with it. The one concern I have is almost
all LCD TV's below 37" are720p & not 1080p. If you could find one in that size range at 1080p,
at a price you could afford, then maybe you go for it.

Another thing to consider is for the next few days Newegg is running the DEll U2412
at $260(shipping incl) which is the lowest price I've seen on that model,
which is normally in the $290 - $320 + shipping

sam_p_lay · Jul 11, 2013

Good advice given here on IPS and PLS. And on calibration - any decent monitor will offer a "user" mode where you can set RGB values individually. In most cases that's exactly what you'll want to do when you buy a new monitor (of any type). Are you bothered by the weak blacks of most TFT displays? One of the things I hate about most TFTs (reason I stuck with a CRT for most of my computing until 2010) was the inability to achieve anything darker than grey.

There is another panel type (PVA) that achieves exceptional black depth. I use one myself. There are drawbacks though compared to IPS/PLS and they're pretty rarely sold too. I'd second the IPS/PLS recommendation unless the black depth issue is something that really bothers you.

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