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i5 4430+h80i or i5 4670k+412s?

what should i take? the i5 4430 with a cooler master h80i? or the 4670k with the cooler master 412s? Is a water cooler on a i5 4430 unnecessary?
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    Putting a water cooler on a CPU that won't overclock will only be because of looks and noise level. It is unnecessary.

    I would certainly pick the i5-4670k and save money for a decent cooler and overclock it, so you will get some performance benifit of a new cooler.
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  3. lostgamer_03 said:
    Putting a water cooler on a CPU that won't overclock will only be because of looks and noise level. It is unnecessary.

    I would certainly pick the i5-4670k and save money for a decent cooler and overclock it, so you will get some performance benifit of a new cooler.


    so you´re saying the 412s isn´t a decent cooler?
  4. fountainpen said:
    lostgamer_03 said:
    Putting a water cooler on a CPU that won't overclock will only be because of looks and noise level. It is unnecessary.

    I would certainly pick the i5-4670k and save money for a decent cooler and overclock it, so you will get some performance benifit of a new cooler.


    so you´re saying the 412s isn´t a decent cooler?


    It is a decent cooler, but it's not a high-end cooler, I would get a cooler that had a little more potential, it really doesn't offer much more performance over the 212.
  5. Haswell runs cool, it only heats up under high voltages.
    A 4430 will run fine with the stock cooler. The only reason for an aftermarket cooler is to keep the fan noise down under load.
    The 4670K will do very well, running at stock speeds. Unless you are a competitive overclocker, I would stick with a hyper212 and hope for a oc in the range of 4.0
  6. geofelt said:
    Haswell runs cool, it only heats up under high voltages.
    A 4430 will run fine with the stock cooler. The only reason for an aftermarket cooler is to keep the fan noise down under load.
    The 4670K will do very well, running at stock speeds. Unless you are a competitive overclocker, I would stick with a hyper212 and hope for a oc in the range of 4.0


    You could do 4Ghz on the stock cooler with a 4670K. Hyper 212 is good till 4.4-4.5Ghz with a good case
  7. How well you can oc haswell is primarily determined by luck of the binning. It seems to be highly variable. I think one should not count on getting a golden sample.
    Still, even at stock, the 4670/K will perform well with any game.
  8. geofelt said:
    How well you can oc haswell is primarily determined by luck of the binning. It seems to be highly variable. I think one should not count on getting a golden sample.
    Still, even at stock, the 4670/K will perform well with any game.


    Have to disagree. Almost all will do 4Ghz with 1.15v or less. Its just about getting the settings right
  9. I am being conservative. Yes, the stock cooler will do the job up to a point, but I prefer to spend $30 for a cooler with a large slow turning 120mm fan just to keep things quiet. If the added cooling helps the oc, so much the better. It is the higher oc's that push the voltage above 1.25 or so that really ramp up the chip heat. Again, though, just how much benefit do we really get with overclocks past 4.0?
  10. geofelt said:
    I am being conservative. Yes, the stock cooler will do the job up to a point, but I prefer to spend $30 for a cooler with a large slow turning 120mm fan just to keep things quiet. If the added cooling helps the oc, so much the better. It is the higher oc's that push the voltage above 1.25 or so that really ramp up the chip heat. Again, though, just how much benefit do we really get with overclocks past 4.0?


    im am not really the overclocker type, maybe i do it to 4.0 ghz but i wont oc it further, so de 412s/212 will perform well on those temperature´s? the case is going to be a CM 690 ll, what temp. can i expect on stock speed and 4 ghz with a 412s?
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