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Gaming performance problem with AMD FX 4100

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June 30, 2013 8:53:59 AM

I have an AMD FX 4100 and I believe there is something affecting the performance (mainly for gaming). The reason I think this is because when playing online games like World of Tanks and Arma 2 or Day Z, the performance is extremely low (sometimes down to 10 FPS). However, on single player, the performance is much better, at 50-60 FPS which makes me think it is a CPU problem as multiplayer is more CPU intensive. But the problem is I have no clue what is wrong, I have checked for any broken or bent pins on the CPU and it does not overheat, and it is even overclocked to 4.5 Ghz, so if anyone has any idea what could be affecting the performance, please reply, it will help a lot. My full system specs are over there!-->

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Billy
June 30, 2013 9:04:38 AM

If you had broken or bent pins, you would've fried something already so you're good there. Most likely it's graphical settings being too high. You can do a test to see which component it is (CPU or GPU). Download MSI afterburner and let it monitor your GPU. If it goes to 98% usage or above when you play multiplayer, you know it's the GPU. If not, download a CPU monitoring software (I just use core temp and the desktop gadget) and see if your CPU is maxing out. You can also do both of these tests at the same time.
June 30, 2013 9:26:59 AM

oh something I forgot to add, my friend also has this CPU and his performance on similar games is fine. I am just dowloading MSI afterburner and desktop gadget now, I will be back soon with the results.
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June 30, 2013 9:39:56 AM

Xiceman007x said:
If you had broken or bent pins, you would've fried something already so you're good there. Most likely it's graphical settings being too high. You can do a test to see which component it is (CPU or GPU). Download MSI afterburner and let it monitor your GPU. If it goes to 98% usage or above when you play multiplayer, you know it's the GPU. If not, download a CPU monitoring software (I just use core temp and the desktop gadget) and see if your CPU is maxing out. You can also do both of these tests at the same time.


CPU and GPU usage are both pretty stable at 50% CPU maxing at 70% so not too high? But CPU core 1 is doing all the work should it not be dispersed over all the cores?
June 30, 2013 9:51:00 AM

That's completely up to the game. Older games/smaller developer team games sometimes use less cores. OR (highly unlikely), you turned all other cores off magically, or the CPU can't figure out that those cores need to be 'unparked'. Either of those have about a .01% chance of being true. Just out of curiosity, what does MSI afterburner say your VRAM usage was during your gaming? (In little red letters it should tell you what it peaked at, and VRAM is usually the last thing on the chart on the right side after you scroll all the way down.). Oh and what power supply do you have?
June 30, 2013 10:18:34 AM

Max VRAM usage was 816 MB, power supply is 500W
June 30, 2013 10:29:05 AM

Although this is pretty rare... It's really the last thing I can think of short of a software problem for which I would personally do a clean install. Try this first, write down all the settings for your over clock and put it back to factory settings. Once in a blue moon, with certain games, it makes them glitchy/stuttery. Try that, and if it doesn't work, I have no other answers for then I would do a fresh install of windows. If that putting back to stock speeds doesn't fix it, hopefully someone else has some answers so you don't have to do a clean install. Also if this doesn't fix it, you have all the numbers written down so you can easily go back to your over clock. Good luck buddy! Fingers crossed for ya!
June 30, 2013 10:30:15 AM

Edit: you do have all the latest video drivers correct? And you aren't basing this off of games in Beta right?

Edit edit: nvm on the beta games. Just looked at the games in your OP again, you are also not using BETA drivers for your GPU are you?
June 30, 2013 10:40:34 AM

Xiceman007x said:
Edit: you do have all the latest video drivers correct? And you aren't basing this off of games in Beta right?

Edit edit: nvm on the beta games. Just looked at the games in your OP again, you are also not using BETA drivers for your GPU are you?


Yeah, all the video drivers are up to date an no i'm not using beta drivers.
June 30, 2013 11:02:54 AM

Try that overclock. It negatively impacted the 7970 oh some games with an fx8350 so it's possible just not all that likely.
June 30, 2013 11:57:51 AM

I just now noticed you only mentioned those 2 games. Do you have other new games and if so do they run fine?
July 3, 2013 11:56:00 AM

Xiceman007x said:
I just now noticed you only mentioned those 2 games. Do you have other new games and if so do they run fine?


I have other games like just cause 2 ( works fine on single player) War thunder (Laggy on multiplayer) Saints row 3 (laggy on single and multiplayer), sorry for late reply I have been away for a few days.

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July 3, 2013 12:03:43 PM
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Are you on the latest motherboard bios? If its not just a few games, it's definitely on your end so never mind on it being the games. If your on the latest bios my vote would be for a complete reinstall of windows. How long has it been since you installed windows. Also, how is your HDD performing?
July 3, 2013 5:19:34 PM

Be been reading a good bit about your particular CPU and it seems it throttles back a lot. Try running prime95 or some sort of torture test and see if it maintains your overclock or if it lowers the clock frequencies while the test is running. You can use cpuz to monitor the clocking while you run the torture test.
July 6, 2013 5:32:05 AM

Xiceman007x said:
Are you on the latest motherboard bios? If its not just a few games, it's definitely on your end so never mind on it being the games. If your on the latest bios my vote would be for a complete reinstall of windows. How long has it been since you installed windows. Also, how is your HDD performing?


Aha! The BIOS was not up to date, so i updated it and now it's fine, thanks so much for your help, no I can enjoy playing my games with terrible lag :D 
July 6, 2013 6:41:47 AM

Well I'm sorry I didn't mention it earlier! Either way, glad you're up and running again and enjoy your PC!
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