PC replacement for PS4

Kevin Le · Jun 30, 2013

I recently moved to pc and next-gen consoles are coming out. Since they have a monthly subscription for online gaming. Pc is the only way to go. I am looking for a sub $600 gaming pc. And I am ONLY GAMING.

Guest · Jun 30, 2013

$600 budget to compete with the next gen consoles? Hmm, keep saving. A gaming PC is only as good as the budget that you have, and for $600 you'll have a pretty basic machine (maybe a bit better then current gen consoles.) When you hit around $1000 - $1250 mark you'll be happier and have a much better build.

This is a rough outline for costs of PC parts. I'll assume you already have a Mouse, Keyboard and Monitor.

CPU (depending on brand, either AMD or Intel) $200 - ish.
Motherboard (Again, general price, not specific to any brand): $200 -ish (for higher quality models anyhow)
Case (general price, not specific to any brand): $60 - $100
Power Supply (general price, not specific to any brand but higher end): $80 - $120
Hard Drive (SSD, always good for a boot drive): $100 - $150.
Hard Drive (mechanical 1TB or so): $80
OS License: $120 or so
Memory: $60 (for high quality and higher capacity, say 8 GB)
Minimal budget: $900

Not including whatever you would spend on a graphics card. So your budget just isn't there, yet.

DarkSable · Jun 30, 2013

You say that you recently moved to PC; that implies that you already have one. What is it?

Do you already have a monitor, a keyboard, a mouse? Do you need an OS?

daswilhelm · Jun 30, 2013

you can build a solid gaming machine for around $600. no need to spend 200 on a motherboard. a decent power supply can be had for much less than 80. also no need for an SSD. and lastly, a GPU might be a good thing to add to the list, considering this is a gaming machine.
i have no idea why you think the "minimum" gaming machine would cost $840...

Madn3ss795 · Jun 30, 2013

This is your, eh, 5th thread? Anyway, 600$ PC with higher gaming performance than a PS4 can be built. But first please tell if you need an OS and/or a monitor or not.

Guest · Jun 30, 2013

daswilhelm :

The site you quoted, even $750 is considered budget, not gaming. The problem with using the term "gaming machine" is that it's really subjective to the standards of the person using it. For me, I guess my standards are just higher than yours? I don't know.

But for ME the minimum gaming would be.

3570K Proc
Z77 Motherboard
CM Hyper 212+ or better (maybe liquid cooling)
Minimum 650W Corsair PSU (preferably modular)
8 GB DDR3 1866
Decent Case (Antec 302 is a good starting point)
120 GB SSD Drive for bootup and primary apps
1 TB Sata III mechanical drive for music and steam backups
Windows 7 OEM
And a Nvidia video card (I think the new 760's look pretty good, price is decent).

No way you're getting that for under $1200. If you can, I salute you.

vmem · Jun 30, 2013

Madn3ss795 :

how can you be so sure when the console and corresponding PC ports hasn't even come out yet? besides, over the 10-year long potential lifespan of next gen consoles, one would need to dump in another $1-2k overtime for upgrades. if the base budget is only $600, then some of the parts (PSU etc) will probably die and need to be replaced as well.

ultimately, even with monthly sub fees, consoles are the cheap gamer's friend.

Madn3ss795 · Jun 30, 2013

Yea, right, 10 years. Please inform me the number of consoles you saw that are still working normally after 10 years. As for performance a HD7870 and a 6/8 core FX will definitely yield higher gaming performance than a PS4, unless terrible ports like GTA4 happen again. And again, a PC is a PC, not a console, and it will benefits more than just a console.

And no, console games aren't cheaper to get than PC ones, specially with all the DLC stuffs. As for games with monthly fee, they're exceptional. Please go advice WoW players to get a console.

daswilhelm · Jun 30, 2013

daswilhelm :

The site you quoted, even $750 is considered budget, not gaming. The problem with using the term "gaming machine" is that it's really subjective to the standards of the person using it. For me, I guess my standards are just higher than yours? I don't know.

But for ME the minimum gaming would be.

3570K Proc
Z77 Motherboard
CM Hyper 212+ or better (maybe liquid cooling)
Minimum 650W Corsair PSU (preferably modular)
8 GB DDR3 1866
Decent Case (Antec 302 is a good starting point)
120 GB SSD Drive for bootup and primary apps
1 TB Sata III mechanical drive for music and steam backups
Windows 7 OEM
And a Nvidia video card (I think the new 760's look pretty good, price is decent).

No way you're getting that for under $1200. If you can, I salute you.

thats a mid to high end gaming build. you do realize he's coming from console right?

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

Okay I do not need an os or monitor. Currently I am gaming on a crappy laptop. Model hp dv7-6b77dx. And I just need something that will last and my upgrade cycle is 4-5 years by the way.

vmem · Jul 1, 2013

Madn3ss795 :

hey, I'm a PC gamer and I like it, that doesn't mean consoles have no place in the world. take your console hate somewhere else.

also, a HD7870 and a 6/8 core FX has more RAW COMPUTE than a PS4, that's a HUGE difference from better game performance.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

I came to pc gaming because console gaming is changing with monthly subscriptions. And games $60. That's not going to help me in the long-run. Don't get me wrong, consoles are great. Ive been a console gamer all my life. I just wanna play games until 2014-15 until next upgrade.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

It's either I go AMD fx-6300/6350 w/ better gpu. OR go intel i5-3570k w/ less gpu performance.

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

Nah, not hating on consoles especially when I'm still having a PS2 in a corner ( that I'm still playing PES on with friends ), it's just that unless someone need a 400$ system with small form factor, wifi and a BD-reader, PC is the way to go.

Anyway this would be my 600$ setup, with durable components selected:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $599.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 00:24 EDT-0400)

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

And this will last? Or should I wait for AMD's new gpu. I love the setup you have right here though.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

Couldnt a 7850 be overclocked to the performance of a 7870?

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

How long will it last depends on how will you keep it clean, and maybe luck also. For example, if you forgot to unplug the power cord during a storm and a lightning hits your house, even a PS4 would be dead.

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

Yes, a 7850 can be OC-ed to the level of a 7870, but not to a 7870ghz's.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

I have a battery backup and I might be able to pull off $50 more. For the GPU.

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

Then we can get a HD7950 instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($267.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $667.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 00:43 EDT-0400)

A bit over 650$, but get you 4 games for free, too.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

Do you think I should wait? For end of 2013/ 1st quarter 2014 components?

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

Maybe. A lot of cards will get cheaper by that time, due to the release of AMD's HD8000 series.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

And would you recommend crossfire with the 7950?

Madn3ss795 · Jul 1, 2013

Nope, due to problems with micro shuttering. Getting a crossfire/SLI-ready system at this price isn't easy either, unless you're fine with the hd7870ghz edition and is willing to pay more for better motherboard + PSU.

Kevin Le · Jul 1, 2013

I was just thinking that I would get 1 GPU and then later on around 2-3 years I could buy another one and crossfire that. I do not want to go with nvidia.

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