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which to choose Used Alienware M17X-R2 vs new Lenovo Ideapad Y500 ??

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July 1, 2013 12:01:17 AM

i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??
July 1, 2013 12:43:42 AM

brajesh143 said:
i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??


The gpu in the alienware is a bit faster than the Lenovo but on the cpu side the Lenovo laptop is much faster. It is also important to note that the Lenovo has a 768p display which is certainly not the best in its class.

By the way are you shopping from flipkart??
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July 1, 2013 1:23:06 AM

ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??


The gpu in the alienware is a bit faster than the Lenovo but on the cpu side the Lenovo laptop is much faster. It is also important to note that the Lenovo has a 768p display which is certainly not the best in its class.

By the way are you shopping from flipkart??

nope from local lenovo dealers so which should i opt for alienware or lenovo...??
is the cpu in alienware weak enough to bottleneck todays games....??
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July 1, 2013 1:30:51 AM

brajesh143 said:
ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??


The gpu in the alienware is a bit faster than the Lenovo but on the cpu side the Lenovo laptop is much faster. It is also important to note that the Lenovo has a 768p display which is certainly not the best in its class.

By the way are you shopping from flipkart??

nope from local lenovo dealers so which should i opt for alienware or lenovo...??
is the cpu in alienware weak enough to bottleneck todays games....??


See it all comes down to personal preference. If you play games like BF3 multiplayer or skyrim then you are sure to be bottlenecked by the cpu. But for other games you will be fine. But crossfire has lots of issues with newer games so it is best to avoid it.
Also the Lenovo laptop will have optimus and hence give you much better battery life.
But the only thing that I dislike about the Lenovo laptop is the low resolution screen. Are there any higher res screen options available??? If yes then try to get at least a 900p screen. It is much better for general productivity tasks.
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July 1, 2013 1:36:15 AM

ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??


The gpu in the alienware is a bit faster than the Lenovo but on the cpu side the Lenovo laptop is much faster. It is also important to note that the Lenovo has a 768p display which is certainly not the best in its class.

By the way are you shopping from flipkart??

nope from local lenovo dealers so which should i opt for alienware or lenovo...??
is the cpu in alienware weak enough to bottleneck todays games....??


See it all comes down to personal preference. If you play games like BF3 multiplayer or skyrim then you are sure to be bottlenecked by the cpu. But for other games you will be fine. But crossfire has lots of issues with newer games so it is best to avoid it.
Also the Lenovo laptop will have optimus and hence give you much better battery life.
But the only thing that I dislike about the Lenovo laptop is the low resolution screen. Are there any higher res screen options available??? If yes then try to get at least a 900p screen. It is much better for general productivity tasks.


No bro only tat resolution available for lenovo..!! for games i dont play multiplayer...!! only single player games will the alienware cpu hold good for another 3-5 yrs...??
if i buy alienware can i upgrade cpu , gpu , ram in future...??
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July 1, 2013 2:03:05 AM

brajesh143 said:
ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
ayushde said:
brajesh143 said:
i live in india best gaming laptop in india rite now at less than 70,000 rs is
lenovo y500 http://
there is only one model unlike U.S.A models with dual graphics...!!
its specs are General
Series Y
Part Number 59-379647
Lifestyle Gaming
Processor
Processor Core i7 (3rd Generation)
Variant 3632QM
Chipset Mobile HM77 Express
Brand Intel
Clock Speed 2.2 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 6 MB
Memory
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive
Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform
Operating System Windows 8
System Architecture 64-bit
OS Architecture 64-bit
Display
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR5
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2 GB
Graphic Processor NVIDIA GT750m

I Thought of buying this but now i got a sweet deal used Alienware M17X-R2
http://
its specs are
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor 1.73GHz, 4 Cores/8 Threads, turbo up to 3.06
6GB (1X2G+1X4G) DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 Cross fire (2gb)
17.0" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 - Beyond HD (1200p) - RGB LED
Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7200RPM
Dell wireless 370 bluetooth minicar
Dell wireless wlan 1520 half mini card
Ricoh R5U230 card reader
9 cell battery
Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

Pls help am confused now which is the better buy...??
which will give best results in gaming ?? harcore games like crysis 3 will it run in ultra settings in alienware...?? or better to go with lower resolution of lenovo...??
pls help and if i get a alienware any chance i can replace gpu , cpu ,ram in the future separately.....?? also current cpu of alienware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Processor is it good enough and upto date for current line of games ??


The gpu in the alienware is a bit faster than the Lenovo but on the cpu side the Lenovo laptop is much faster. It is also important to note that the Lenovo has a 768p display which is certainly not the best in its class.

By the way are you shopping from flipkart??

nope from local lenovo dealers so which should i opt for alienware or lenovo...??
is the cpu in alienware weak enough to bottleneck todays games....??


See it all comes down to personal preference. If you play games like BF3 multiplayer or skyrim then you are sure to be bottlenecked by the cpu. But for other games you will be fine. But crossfire has lots of issues with newer games so it is best to avoid it.
Also the Lenovo laptop will have optimus and hence give you much better battery life.
But the only thing that I dislike about the Lenovo laptop is the low resolution screen. Are there any higher res screen options available??? If yes then try to get at least a 900p screen. It is much better for general productivity tasks.


No bro only tat resolution available for lenovo..!! for games i dont play multiplayer...!! only single player games will the alienware cpu hold good for another 3-5 yrs...??
if i buy alienware can i upgrade cpu , gpu , ram in future...??


No the cpu might not be enough in the aleinware laptop after 2-3 years. Also you may have lots of driver issues with some games not working properly with crossfire.
A plus point for the Lenovo laptop is that the 750m will be able to play games at mid-high settings for the next 2-3 years because it has a lower res screen. Though the screen might not be appropriate for other tasks.

And BTW as far as I know, no you cant upgrade the cpu and gpu in laptops because it is soldered into the motherboard.
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July 1, 2013 2:34:09 AM

get the Lenovo
1. much better CPU
2. Faster and more RAM
3. Decent GPU
4. driver issues with CrossFire
5. new is always better than used
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September 11, 2013 5:24:59 AM

U can upgrade the gpu and cpu on an aw 17.the.gpu is not soldered to the mobo.its connected to a pci express slot.Go for the AW if u plan on upgrading the cpu.
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September 11, 2013 3:10:11 PM

Both are good, but definitely Lenovo for me. :) 
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September 11, 2013 3:24:34 PM

New is better than used, and the Lenovo uses more recent hardware. On the other hand, you can beat your neighbor to death with the m17x and it will take minimal damage. Tough choice.
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