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kalef21

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Hi. I was planning on building a computer and I'm not sure what case I should get. The barebone kit I'm buying from tigerdirect comes with a Thermaltake V2 case but I've looked at the Thermaltake V4 and it really appeals to me.

My question is, since on on a budget, should I get the V2 the kit comes with (also has 450W PSU)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7999745&sku=B69-0851

OR the V4 case (I would sell V2 w/ 450W PSU and buy a 600W PSU)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6447916&CatId=1509

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7794051&CatId=1483

Is my computer going to run cooler in the the V4 or the same as the V2?
 
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That barebone is not a good deal. The mobo is ancient-tech (no USB3.0 or SATA 6Gb/s) with a new socket tacked onto it. The PSU-shaped object in the case is no doubt an overrated device not fit for purpose. It is very hard to underperform the stock AMD cooler, but it looks like Thermaltake has done it with that one. The CPU is a member of the Bulldozer family, found to be a horrible disappointment in a SBM build a few cycles ago that tried one. Only a single stick of RAM is included, so you won't get dual-channel performance. There's no video card, and the included IGP is not capable of playing modern games unless perhaps they are at a low resolution (1366x768 max) on lowest settings. Don't even think about powering a graphics...
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Both those power supplies are horrible units and will fail and could very well destroy the other components when it does. When you build a computer the power supply is a critical part. Here is a good reference for buying a power supply, stay away from tier 4 and especially tier 5 units. http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx if its not on the list and you can't find any professionally done review I would stay away from it. The 600w unit in your post is only capable of delivering 30a(360w) on the 12v rail which is horrible for a unit advertised as 600w. A decent 600w psu should be able to deliver at least 500w on the 12v and great unit would deliver close to 600w if not more.
 
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If you are going that far, might as well skip buying the kit. Basically paying the company to ship it to, and unless you are selling it locally, shipping it out again. (Also it appears to be out of stock) So below is a build, not sure of your budget or if you needed everything, but you can pick and choose parts as you see fit.

This was quick and dirty, my machine has a scheduled reboot. Hope it helps:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cbXW Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cbXW/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cbXW/benchmarks/ CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($105.91 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg) Case: Thermaltake VJ400G1N2Z ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg) Total: $560.84 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 13:25 EDT-0400)



 
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That barebone is not a good deal. The mobo is ancient-tech (no USB3.0 or SATA 6Gb/s) with a new socket tacked onto it. The PSU-shaped object in the case is no doubt an overrated device not fit for purpose. It is very hard to underperform the stock AMD cooler, but it looks like Thermaltake has done it with that one. The CPU is a member of the Bulldozer family, found to be a horrible disappointment in a SBM build a few cycles ago that tried one. Only a single stick of RAM is included, so you won't get dual-channel performance. There's no video card, and the included IGP is not capable of playing modern games unless perhaps they are at a low resolution (1366x768 max) on lowest settings. Don't even think about powering a graphics card stronger than a HD7750 with the included PSU-shaped object.
I understand being on a budget, but you still need to avoid buying junk. I think you would be better served by filling out the sticky on how to ask for new build advice (which includes your budget), and see what suggestions you get.
 
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