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July 1, 2013 2:23:30 PM

Ok, so i have a small computer (Gateway sx2855) and i'm trying to install a radeon 7700. The card will by no means fit in the case. I already cut the side of the case to fit a smaller card in, but on the new card, the fan doesn't fit. Is there any way to get the card in without buying a new case or cutting the current case up any more?
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 2:28:44 PM

I think a new case will only run you $30 - $40, I think a new case is your only option other than just running it on a test platform.
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July 1, 2013 2:37:10 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
I think a new case will only run you $30 - $40, I think a new case is your only option other than just running it on a test platform.


I can't get a new case because most the pieces in my current machine are tied to the case. Like the motherboard and power supply. I can't afford a new case, and all the required pieces. Also, my budget is $170 USD tops
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 2:40:29 PM

What's your budget? Ill design a build that fits your needs for your budget (assuming you have some parts that you can keep, like HDD and GPU)
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July 1, 2013 2:54:23 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
What's your budget? Ill design a build that fits your needs for your budget (assuming you have some parts that you can keep, like HDD and GPU)


That'd be sweet, but i have a ridiculously low budget. But if you can do it, it's 170 at most
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 2:55:32 PM

What parts do you have right now?
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July 1, 2013 3:08:01 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
What parts do you have right now?


2.70 gigahertz Intel Pentium G630
Board: Gateway SX2855
4 GB DDR3 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 [Display adapter] (Going to put in the Radeon 7700)
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 3:10:19 PM

Rman920 said:
Shadowblade2652 said:
What parts do you have right now?


2.70 gigahertz Intel Pentium G630
Board: Gateway SX2855
4 GB DDR3 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 [Display adapter] (Going to put in the Radeon 7700)

7770? or 7750?

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July 1, 2013 3:20:53 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
Rman920 said:
Shadowblade2652 said:
What parts do you have right now?


2.70 gigahertz Intel Pentium G630
Board: Gateway SX2855
4 GB DDR3 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 [Display adapter] (Going to put in the Radeon 7700)

7770? or 7750?



Oops 7770 lol
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 5:08:23 PM

Rman920 said:
Shadowblade2652 said:
Rman920 said:
Shadowblade2652 said:
What parts do you have right now?


2.70 gigahertz Intel Pentium G630
Board: Gateway SX2855
4 GB DDR3 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 [Display adapter] (Going to put in the Radeon 7700)

7770? or 7750?



Oops 7770 lol


Is it possible to reuse the motherboard or is it a board that is brand specific?
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 5:17:03 PM

This is assuming you have these parts already owned:
1. GPU
2. CPU
3. Motherboard
4. Hard Drive
Basically what you need right now is a new:
1. Case
2. PSU (Power Supply Unit)
3. RAM (4GB is obsolete so I managed to fit in some 8GB of Corsair Ram - *Note - If your board has 4 slots for ram and you wish to have 12GBs total, make sure the 8GBs that you buy are THE SAME CLOCK SPEED. That is extremely important as you may run into compatibility issues)
Here is your build :) 
Enjoy!
Because the motherboard is what i don't know if you can reuse, i made two builds:
Build 1 (Assuming you have a motherboard):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $153.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 20:15 EDT-0400)

Build 2: If you dont have a motherboard: *Note that this does hit $180, i picked all the parts for a specific reason, so you shouldn't change it without asking :) )
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $198.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 20:16 EDT-0400)
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a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 5:18:53 PM

Oh also the prices include shipping and everything else (tax, discounts, rebates) so keep that in mind :) 
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July 1, 2013 9:32:46 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
This is assuming you have these parts already owned:
1. GPU
2. CPU
3. Motherboard
4. Hard Drive
Basically what you need right now is a new:
1. Case
2. PSU (Power Supply Unit)
3. RAM (4GB is obsolete so I managed to fit in some 8GB of Corsair Ram - *Note - If your board has 4 slots for ram and you wish to have 12GBs total, make sure the 8GBs that you buy are THE SAME CLOCK SPEED. That is extremely important as you may run into compatibility issues)
Here is your build :) 
Enjoy!
Because the motherboard is what i don't know if you can reuse, i made two builds:
Build 1 (Assuming you have a motherboard):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $153.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 20:15 EDT-0400)

Build 2: If you dont have a motherboard: *Note that this does hit $180, i picked all the parts for a specific reason, so you shouldn't change it without asking :) )
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $198.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 20:16 EDT-0400)


I can't take the motherboard out, so the second is the best solution. I can still stick with the memory i have right? I can deal with 4 GB until i get a bit more money. And will i need to buy a new copy of windows? I read somewhere that each copy is tied to the motherboard.
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a c 84 U Graphics card
July 1, 2013 9:37:35 PM

OEM Windows is tied to the motherboard so you will no doubt need to buy windows.
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July 1, 2013 9:45:24 PM

smeezekitty said:
OEM Windows is tied to the motherboard so you will no doubt need to buy windows.


In that case, i can't afford any of this. :( 
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 10:58:11 AM

Rman920 said:
smeezekitty said:
OEM Windows is tied to the motherboard so you will no doubt need to buy windows.


In that case, i can't afford any of this. :( 


You could download the windows 8.1 dev preview? It's free right now
Also, you could try pirating it...?
And yes your ram will work fine with any board that supports DDR3 (which this does)
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a c 358 U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 11:52:40 AM

If you have a slimline case, then you need to install a low profile graphics card.

As far as I an aware of, there are no low profile Radeon HD 7770. However, you can buy a low profile Radeon HD 7750. That would probably be the better choice anyway because most slimline cases only come with a 220w - 300w power supply.

The Radeon HD 7750 will not have any problems with a 300w PSU. Below 300w you can potentially have an issue. But the Pentium G630 doesn't consume too much power so maybe you can get away with a 250w.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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July 2, 2013 12:34:17 PM

jaguarskx said:
If you have a slimline case, then you need to install a low profile graphics card.

As far as I an aware of, there are no low profile Radeon HD 7770. However, you can buy a low profile Radeon HD 7750. That would probably be the better choice anyway because most slimline cases only come with a 220w - 300w power supply.

The Radeon HD 7750 will not have any problems with a 300w PSU. Below 300w you can potentially have an issue. But the Pentium G630 doesn't consume too much power so maybe you can get away with a 250w.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



I already own the 7770, I got it as a gift.
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July 2, 2013 12:35:39 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
Rman920 said:
smeezekitty said:
OEM Windows is tied to the motherboard so you will no doubt need to buy windows.


In that case, i can't afford any of this. :( 


You could download the windows 8.1 dev preview? It's free right now
Also, you could try pirating it...?
And yes your ram will work fine with any board that supports DDR3 (which this does)


Windows 8 isn't really an option, i'd rather keep my current card than switch to windows 8. And as far as i'm aware, pirating windows can run into problems (besides the legal stuff)
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 12:43:29 PM

Rman920 said:
Shadowblade2652 said:
Rman920 said:
smeezekitty said:
OEM Windows is tied to the motherboard so you will no doubt need to buy windows.


In that case, i can't afford any of this. :( 


You could download the windows 8.1 dev preview? It's free right now
Also, you could try pirating it...?
And yes your ram will work fine with any board that supports DDR3 (which this does)


Windows 8 isn't really an option, i'd rather keep my current card than switch to windows 8. And as far as i'm aware, pirating windows can run into problems (besides the legal stuff)


See if your computer has a serial number for windows 7 on it. On a little tag there may be a serial that you can use repeatedly, and then you can just pirate windows 7 and use the legal serial and technically it won't be illegal because your serial is legit :) 
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a c 84 U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 1:01:58 PM

Microsoft may allow it to activate if it has been a while since the first version was activated.

It is worth trying atleast.
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July 2, 2013 1:09:10 PM

a little saw never does any harm btw
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 1:47:01 PM

realbenny said:
a little saw never does any harm btw


Ever seen texas chainsaw massacre?
:p 

I kind of see his point as you could save yourself the trouble and just saw off the area you want. OR you could buy an LP version of the 6670 which is like $40 cheaper and gives you decent performance for a small card like that.
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 2:01:27 PM

The mobo is attached to the case? Can you take a picture of it?
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 2:05:55 PM

ihog said:
The mobo is attached to the case? Can you take a picture of it?


well he is using a branded computer...
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 2:18:24 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
ihog said:
The mobo is attached to the case? Can you take a picture of it?


well he is using a branded computer...


Every branded computer my family has owned has the mobo screwed in, just as one would do if they built their own rig.
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July 2, 2013 3:14:27 PM

ihog said:
The mobo is attached to the case? Can you take a picture of it?


The circled area is where i need more room

http://imgur.com/Lpu30Vv
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 7:50:46 PM

I see screws on your Motherboard ...... what's stopping you from swapping the motherboard into a new case?

A Micro Tower is just a complete show stopper for upgrading, you at least want a mini.

As ihog said I had a HP Pavilion, swapped out the mobo no problems, it's just screwed in so what's the problem here?
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July 2, 2013 9:07:39 PM

Diamond-HP said:
I see screws on your Motherboard ...... what's stopping you from swapping the motherboard into a new case?

A Micro Tower is just a complete show stopper for upgrading, you at least want a mini.

As ihog said I had a HP Pavilion, swapped out the mobo no problems, it's just screwed in so what's the problem here?


This model doesn't work with other parts...at least i'm pretty sure. I can't remember where i read that, but it's among the information i've gathered on this machine
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a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2013 9:42:32 PM

It may be a micro atx motherboard instead of an atx motherboard...
Or you may be right and it may be a custom motherboard.
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July 2, 2013 10:47:22 PM

so your only possibility really is.. the saw ;) 

where is the problem. just a bit more air flow
dont forget to vacuum sometimes
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a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2013 1:53:02 AM

Rman920 said:
Diamond-HP said:
I see screws on your Motherboard ...... what's stopping you from swapping the motherboard into a new case?

A Micro Tower is just a complete show stopper for upgrading, you at least want a mini.

As ihog said I had a HP Pavilion, swapped out the mobo no problems, it's just screwed in so what's the problem here?


This model doesn't work with other parts...at least i'm pretty sure. I can't remember where i read that, but it's among the information i've gathered on this machine


Ok ...... what other parts?

We're talking about using all your existing components that you use now but just re-housing them in a bigger case.
Towers are just cases what we do need to know is what sort of motherboard you have, is it an ITX or Micro ATX?
This is what will matter, we already know it's an Intel H61 Express chipset now I've checked it out and it comes in both form factors, Micro ATX and ITX what I need you to do is measure the your board (Don't take it out just give a rough measurement) so we know which one it is.

http://ark.intel.com/products/series/70402

Once that's done we'll know what towers are a viable option and especially if it's a Micro ATX your problems will be solved at minimal cost.
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a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2013 2:18:16 AM

Just a side note to the windows discussion. If you have a serial OEM number on the case you can always install the Windows that came with it in another machine. You just need the serial (OEM) number from the case when installing it.
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a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2013 3:38:39 AM

Actually that doesn't always work on an OEM especially if your using a different model motherboard.

For example if your Mobo is OEM then you use a Asus Mobo it will very much likely not transfer over, if you use the same make it may do however considering if he can he'll be using his existing mobo it's all a moot point.
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a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2013 3:51:38 AM

Really? Never had a problem doing it this way. I have installed windows on several different machines, which came with a OEM serial key. Never had a problem with it? Doesn't Windows give you the rights to install it on 2-3 different machines?
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a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2013 4:27:10 AM

Mahisse said:
Really? Never had a problem doing it this way. I have installed windows on several different machines, which came with a OEM serial key. Never had a problem with it? Doesn't Windows give you the rights to install it on 2-3 different machines?


Nope.

Maybe it depends on the manufacturer but it's well known that Windows which come on an OEM board are tied to that particular board.
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