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July 1, 2013 9:50:18 PM

i am new to PC gaming but im wanting to build a gaming PC for preferably under 500. i have keybord, mouse, monitor, and windows 7 64 bit. any ideas on a complete custom gaming pc for this game that will be pretty good? i aso dont want to have to upgrade it 60 times. i want a pc that is good so i can spend a little more money

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a b 4 Gaming
July 1, 2013 10:09:05 PM

if you want to run (heavy) games like bf3/bf4 in high/settings then 500 isn't enough. a good card will cost you at least $300
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a b 4 Gaming
July 1, 2013 10:22:59 PM

Here you go, under 500$ after rebates:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($23.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.62 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $491.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-02 01:22 EDT-0400)

Should get you good framterate at BF3 even at 1080p. Plus the ability to upgrade to a FX CPU later on.
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a c 436 4 Gaming
July 1, 2013 10:23:25 PM

Verzy said:
Can you go up to $600 or $700 possibly? You'll be better off in the future, but here's a build list I just made http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cpbI
The only problem its a little more than $500 and it doesn't have an OS. With an OS it'll run you about $89.99 more.
Here's a comparison with the build and Battlefield 3
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1164&ga...


A dual core i3 will be worthless for BF4 as it is scaled for 4 cores.
That RAM sis stupid and a waste of money. There will be virtually no difference with normal 1600hz RAM and that board won't even support it.
A gtx650 is going to run games at low settings.
That Case is trash. Riadmax makes awful pretty much everything.
Thermaltake PSUs are not very good.

This is a MUCH better option: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.83 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.52 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $507.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-02 01:23 EDT-0400)
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a c 436 4 Gaming
July 1, 2013 10:24:18 PM


Madn3ss795's build is also great.

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July 1, 2013 10:29:13 PM

Wait until you have a bit more money on your hands. A $500 PC won't run even run BF3 that great, and BF4 will be slightly more demanding.

This is my recommendation for a budget BF4 rig - the GTX 650 Ti Boost should give you >50 FPS on high, if not more if you turn anti-aliasing down a bit.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($171.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $656.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-02 01:35 EDT-0400)

Edit: Tiny Voices' build is better price/performance. I hadn't realized how much the 3350P's price had gone up. Will look for alternatives.
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July 2, 2013 12:09:19 AM

tiny voices said:
Verzy said:
Can you go up to $600 or $700 possibly? You'll be better off in the future, but here's a build list I just made http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cpbI
The only problem its a little more than $500 and it doesn't have an OS. With an OS it'll run you about $89.99 more.
Here's a comparison with the build and Battlefield 3
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1164&ga...


A dual core i3 will be worthless for BF4 as it is scaled for 4 cores.
That RAM sis stupid and a waste of money. There will be virtually no difference with normal 1600hz RAM and that board won't even support it.
A gtx650 is going to run games at low settings.
That Case is trash. Riadmax makes awful pretty much everything.
Thermaltake PSUs are not very good.

This is a MUCH better option: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.83 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.52 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $507.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-02 01:23 EDT-0400)


just because it can use more then 2 cores doesnt mean it will max out 4 cores. plus if bf4 is anything like bf3 it will be able to use more then 4 cores. now dont get all excited and blast "well bf3 doesnt benefit from more then 4 cores", well no it doesnt but it still can. anyway the i3 could be better because the 2 cores it does have are much faster then that phenoms. the other two virtual cores might not be needed as heavily, as that is how most games work, and be fully adequate for the game. Of course we are all making assumptions here and we all know the saying about assumptions.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 2, 2013 12:13:36 AM

1 core of i3 isn't better than a 2 Phenom cores combined, and most games including BF titles don't support i3's 2 virtual cores. So get your facts straight.
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July 3, 2013 2:27:20 AM

cbrunnem said:

just because it can use more then 2 cores doesnt mean it will max out 4 cores. plus if bf4 is anything like bf3 it will be able to use more then 4 cores. now dont get all excited and blast "well bf3 doesnt benefit from more then 4 cores", well no it doesnt but it still can. anyway the i3 could be better because the 2 cores it does have are much faster then that phenoms. the other two virtual cores might not be needed as heavily, as that is how most games work, and be fully adequate for the game. Of course we are all making assumptions here and we all know the saying about assumptions.


The amount of misinformation...

1: Battlefield 3 is designed for quad-core CPUs. That's 4 physical cores.
2: Hyperthreading has been repeatedly shown to not improve gaming performance - in fact, it can hinder it. Logical cores and physical cores aren't directly comparable in everything.
3: The Core i3-3240 (4373) performs no better than the Phenom II X4 965 (4304) on Passmark, a benchmark that *does* use hyperthreading. Money down the drain.
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July 3, 2013 10:24:35 PM

How about this?
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1d6G8) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1d6G8/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1d6G8/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6350frhkbox) | $129.99 @ Newegg
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...) | $29.98 @ Outlet PC
**Thermal Compound** | [Arctic Cooling MX-2 4g Thermal Paste](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-thermal-pas...) | $4.98 @ Outlet PC
**Motherboard** | [ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-960gmu3...) | $54.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmx8gx3m2a1...) | $56.99 @ Microcenter
**Storage** | [Samsung Spinpoint M8 750GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...) | $54.99 @ Newegg
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp43656k...) | $149.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master eXtreme Power 550W ATX12V Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-power-supply...) | $34.99 @ Newegg
**Other**| raidmax case| $44.99
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $561.89
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-04 01:19 EDT-0400 |
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July 3, 2013 11:17:16 PM

Use BBCode formatting for PCPartPicker pastes.

Couple suggestions:
Use the PNY RAM I had in my post - faster for the same price.
Don't use Cooler Master eXtreme power supplies - they're not that great quality.
Refer to http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx for good power supplies

The GTX 650 Ti Boost will probably get you decent performance on BF4 medium settings.

Bottom line is, since you "don't want to upgrade it 60 times," I'm strongly recommending that you wait until you have a bit more money on your hands (around $800 - $1000). By putting yourself to the $500 to $600 range, but targeting BF4, you're going to have to use limited budget hardware. If and when you do decide you want more performance, you're just going to end up wasting more money in the long run by throwing away or reselling old hardware that you can't reuse.
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