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Cannot exclude large data drive from windows image backup

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July 2, 2013 7:37:58 AM

Sorry, but this has been bothering me for awhile, and perhaps I'm blind but many a Google search has been performed and I can't seem to find a solution in any of the results. So now I bring it here, and after an admittedly brief search to see if this is a common issue, and having found nothing on the forums so far I pose the following dilemma:

I have been trying to create a windows image backup of my system every month in an effort to keep crashes from affecting system stability, but for the past few months I have not been able to exclude my 2TB data drive from the backup. I have a large backup drive (large enough anyway) and have lived with it.

However, it is getting increasingly perplexing and time consuming just leaving things the way they are. I do use the drive for some larger, less important programs to save space on my SSD, but even when I uninstalled them before, the problem persisted and I have a similar setup on my laptop that is able to exclude the data drive with no issue, even though it has installed programs on it.

Even more perplexing is that windows image backup lists the drive as system, while both disk management and diskpart list it as primary and without attributes respectively. There is no pagefile, no hiberfile.sys, no crashdump, and no appdata file stored on the drive, and yet I still can't get the program to backup ONLY my SSD (My C: drive)

I am really at my wits end with this problem and would appreciate some assistance.

My system specs are:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
ASUS Sabertooth X58
24 GB Kingston DDR3

Any further system details can be given upon request (I don't think anything else is relevant, but I could be wrong. I also have a screenshot that I will post as soon as I can.

Thank you so much, and as always if there is something wrong or confusing about this post, or if it is in the wrong place, I am happy to address the issue.

Cheers!

EDIT: Here's a link to the screenshot I mentioned

http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/07/02/baZ5q.jpg

Hope it helps!

EDIT #2: Took a look in Event viewer, and it may be unrelated, but here's a strange recurring error I've just found:

Kernel-Event Tracking "Session "Microsoft Security Client OOBE" stopped due to the following error: 0xC000000D"

I'm still looking into this myself, but one possible solution involves rebuilding the BCD. Maybe this has something to do with it? I don't know. At this point, I'm considering unplugging the data drive, booting the computer, and then imaging the C: drive if there aren't any problems.
July 2, 2013 8:02:00 AM

I've had the same problem on my PC with windows backup, more than likely the OS is using that drive for some form of caching or there are system files associated with programs you have installed on your data drive. I searched for a long time and found several "solutions" that worked for other people and not me lol. My final solution was to use a different program to do my backups. There are plenty of them out there, a lot of good free ones, and a lot of good pay ones as well. Just do an internet search and you'll find some, and they will work much better than windows backup :-)
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July 2, 2013 8:10:34 AM

bdiddytampa said:
I've had the same problem on my PC with windows backup, more than likely the OS is using that drive for some form of caching or there are system files associated with programs you have installed on your data drive. I searched for a long time and found several "solutions" that worked for other people and not me lol. My final solution was to use a different program to do my backups. There are plenty of them out there, a lot of good free ones, and a lot of good pay ones as well. Just do an internet search and you'll find some, and they will work much better than windows backup :-)


Yeah, did that for awhile actually, but never really trusted the other programs. Never had to restore with them (I've done a couple of image restores using windows backup) but maybe that will have to be the final answer. Would still like to know if there is an explanation as to why this happens so that I can make it STOP happening, and since I plan to generalize this install and move it to my next machine whenever I decide to upgrade (probably not till Haswell-E) I would like to ensure that this will not negatively affect my future plans.

Really frustrating, but glad to know that I'm not the only one =D
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July 2, 2013 8:56:31 AM

Skiibs said:

Yeah, did that for awhile actually, but never really trusted the other programs. Never had to restore with them (I've done a couple of image restores using windows backup) but maybe that will have to be the final answer. Would still like to know if there is an explanation as to why this happens so that I can make it STOP happening, and since I plan to generalize this install and move it to my next machine whenever I decide to upgrade (probably not till Haswell-E) I would like to ensure that this will not negatively affect my future plans.

Really frustrating, but glad to know that I'm not the only one =D


Yeah I totally agree, It has to do with shared resources I'm sure, I just can't pin down what lol. The few times I've had to revert on my Windows installation it has been something that I can use restore points for, so making a recovery disk is still advisable, but for data and programs I've actually gone to another tactic. Since I've just got my OS and system files on my SSD, I just keep a backup of setup files for the programs I use most often. All of my video, pictures, documents, and games are stored on my other drives, and anything important is backed up online. So even if I do have to do an OS re-install, it is a relatively simple process of reloading the OS and running thru the list of setup files, and reallocating my libraries. Probably is an easier way out there lol, but sometimes a clean install is the best route anyway.
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July 2, 2013 9:35:58 AM


Yeah, I agree. Nice setup by the way. If I could afford an online backup service that I actually trusted I would totally do that, but I spend all my money on hardware these days. More likely to build my own server then pay to use someone else's XD

Most of my programs are games on Steam anyway. I might want to seriously consider what non-steam programs I actually care about, and start finding / re-downloading their installers into a backup folder.

Then again, it's not that I can't live with things the way they are, I am just totally confused as to what the shared resource might be that's causing this (gotta be some random registry key or some folder I can't locate). I'm glancing through the registry now to find any keys that still point to the Data drive and figure out what they're there for. Hopefully I find the culprit, but if not I might have to suck it up and consider the possibility of using another program or committing to a full wipe and re-install.

Either way, I WILL find a solution. Power of positive thinking!
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July 2, 2013 12:17:19 PM

Skiibs said:

Yeah, I agree. Nice setup by the way. If I could afford an online backup service that I actually trusted I would totally do that, but I spend all my money on hardware these days. More likely to build my own server then pay to use someone else's XD

Most of my programs are games on Steam anyway. I might want to seriously consider what non-steam programs I actually care about, and start finding / re-downloading their installers into a backup folder.

Then again, it's not that I can't live with things the way they are, I am just totally confused as to what the shared resource might be that's causing this (gotta be some random registry key or some folder I can't locate). I'm glancing through the registry now to find any keys that still point to the Data drive and figure out what they're there for. Hopefully I find the culprit, but if not I might have to suck it up and consider the possibility of using another program or committing to a full wipe and re-install.

Either way, I WILL find a solution. Power of positive thinking!


lol you got it :-) Good luck!
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